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Your Obsession & Hatred for the Name Ling has gone beyond Grating , in fact is verging on Bullying some to the point of suicide .Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:45 amYou’re obsession with this is a bit grating. I dunno where you’ve plucked this from, or if it’s tongue in cheek.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:19 pmAgain falling into the TRAP !ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:43 pm it's time the owners told us fans, who was really responsible for bringing in the crap players in January.
No bullshit, the truth.
We know it was Ling who brought Coleman here because he said in his interview, just before Jackett was sacked.
He said he had been following Coleman for two years, and finally was able to get him.
That was way before Jacket came here, so it was definitely Ling.
We need to know about the rest, because the whole episode was a disaster.
Top 8 budget is doomed to FAILURE ,
A TOP 2 BUDGET guarentees SUCCESS !
Having more budget does not guarantee success if you put it in the wrong hands. All managers and DoF are restricted by a budget but the best ones think outside of the box on how to use it and are thinking 2-3 years in the future on building a team, not just players to fill out a squad for numbers.
With the same approach next year, we could have a budget 10 times higher than anyone else and we might just scrape the playoffs with a bit of luck.
Reported.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:22 amYour Obsession & Hatred for the Name Ling has gone beyond Grating , in fact is verging on Bullying some to the point of suicide .Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:45 amYou’re obsession with this is a bit grating. I dunno where you’ve plucked this from, or if it’s tongue in cheek.
Having more budget does not guarantee success if you put it in the wrong hands. All managers and DoF are restricted by a budget but the best ones think outside of the box on how to use it and are thinking 2-3 years in the future on building a team, not just players to fill out a squad for numbers.
With the same approach next year, we could have a budget 10 times higher than anyone else and we might just scrape the playoffs with a bit of luck.
Fortunately Martin Ling now gets Through
This narrow minded abuse that he receives .
I take it you didnt hear some of Lings Interviews toward the end of his time at Cambridge United or his first couple of interviews after his first breakdown ? If you did youd understand , if you didnt then try dig em out for a listen !!Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:41 amReported.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:22 amYour Obsession & Hatred for the Name Ling has gone beyond Grating , in fact is verging on Bullying some to the point of suicide .Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:45 am
You’re obsession with this is a bit grating. I dunno where you’ve plucked this from, or if it’s tongue in cheek.
Having more budget does not guarantee success if you put it in the wrong hands. All managers and DoF are restricted by a budget but the best ones think outside of the box on how to use it and are thinking 2-3 years in the future on building a team, not just players to fill out a squad for numbers.
With the same approach next year, we could have a budget 10 times higher than anyone else and we might just scrape the playoffs with a bit of luck.
Fortunately Martin Ling now gets Through
This narrow minded abuse that he receives .
Unnecessary, unwarranted and a deeply serious accusation that has no basis at all.
Not on.
No, we do not NEED to know.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:43 pm it's time the owners told us fans, who was really responsible for bringing in the crap players in January.
No bullshit, the truth.
We know it was Ling who brought Coleman here because he said in his interview, just before Jackett was sacked.
He said he had been following Coleman for two years, and finally was able to get him.
That was way before Jacket came here, so it was definitely Ling.
We need to know about the rest, because the whole episode was a disaster.
I dont know if 'decides' is the right word. But I remember Ling saying KJ had the biggest or final say. There was a thread at the time quoting exactly what was said in Lings pod interview.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:42 am We will go round in circles with this. The club, just before sacking KJ, rallied around to basically put out the message that ‘the manager decides what players come in’ so KJ is squarely to blame, right?
Well, apart from the fact that we know that Coleman was on Lings radar when KJ was at Portsmouth, the alleged list of signings on the other board tbat KJ wanted and we failed to sign, and the fact that, in a bizarre move, as soon as the Jan signings were put in the team, the manager, who allegedly picked them, moaned constantly about how they didn’t have enough experience for league two.
So something doesn’t add up.
I think what’s pretty clear is that either the process is so convoluted that the owners, Ling, nor the manager actually knows who was responsible, or that the wording on how they work has been manipulated to suit Ling (and to a degree, the owners, when they fail).
Saying that, after hearing bits about Kenny, he doesn’t exactly sound like he was of sound judgement in his time here, and either he did have a level of say (even if that was, take this player or nothing), or he didn’t have the bollocks to stand up for himself and the team and say no to the sh*t he was given.
Regardless, what matters is we don’t continue to make the same mistakes. The new ceo, with fresh eyes, should be all over this already. Refine the process, what went wrong, who does Richie want to work going forward, etc… my only issue is that Nigel and Martin have been so insistent on the success of the process, I think they are a bit blinded by it. Challenge culture and all that, Nigel, let’s start putting that into practice and let’s really challenge what we know and what we think we know so Richie gets the best chance of success.
Exactly this, remember the specific wording regarding transfers that NT saidRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:05 am It felt like Kenny said what positions he wanted strengthening and Ling went out and signed who he thought he could for those positions . If Martin wants to target what players we sign then maybe he should put his tracksuit back on and manage the team himself . He might not be picking the team but he seems to be picking some signings . If we want to fail again next season just carry on has we are . In the Summer the club has to have a rethink on what direction they want to go in . This season we have flirted with relegation thanks to Kenny and our transfer committee . Personally I would choose to go with exactly who Richie wants without any interference from our inept transfer committee .lastly, if we’re unable to bring in our manager’s first, second or even third choice of players then we should just forget it and play our youngsters. If our January business is anything to go by we’d save money and be miles better of.
Or maybe get someone in to negotiate who CAN secure our first, second or third choices. Not the 6th or 7th.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:05 am Personally I would choose to go with exactly who Richie wants without any interference from our inept transfer committee .lastly, if we’re unable to bring in our manager’s first, second or even third choice of players then we should just forget it and play our youngsters. If our January business is anything to go by we’d save money and be miles better of.
I'm fully aware of Ling's struggles, thank you very much. He is in a position of power in a football club and is open to scrutiny. Saying that comments i've made could make someone kill themselves is very hurtful. I understand your point and we should all be careful with what we say about others, but i'm very confident that all of my comments have been very much on the right side of this debate.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:51 amI take it you didnt hear some of Lings Interviews toward the end of his time at Cambridge United or his first couple of interviews after his first breakdown ? If you did youd understand , if you didnt then try dig em out for a listen !!Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:41 amReported.
Unnecessary, unwarranted and a deeply serious accusation that has no basis at all.
Not on.
Continued abuse for 3 -4 years by you & othersApple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:36 pmI'm fully aware of Ling's struggles, thank you very much. He is in a position of power in a football club and is open to scrutiny. Saying that comments i've made could make someone kill themselves is very hurtful. I understand your point and we should all be careful with what we say about others, but i'm very confident that all of my comments have been very much on the right side of this debate.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:51 amI take it you didnt hear some of Lings Interviews toward the end of his time at Cambridge United or his first couple of interviews after his first breakdown ? If you did youd understand , if you didnt then try dig em out for a listen !!Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:41 am
Reported.
Unnecessary, unwarranted and a deeply serious accusation that has no basis at all.
Not on.
Throwing around accusations that someone is a bully and could lead them to kill themselves is very serious, and without evidence could be more damaging than said comments themselves. I accept better from you and will be waiting for an apology otherwise i'll just block you and move on.
Hang on, I'm a bit confused now.Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:14 amYep, all of this.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:42 am We will go round in circles with this. The club, just before sacking KJ, rallied around to basically put out the message that ‘the manager decides what players come in’ so KJ is squarely to blame, right?
Well, apart from the fact that we know that Coleman was on Lings radar when KJ was at Portsmouth, the alleged list of signings on the other board tbat KJ wanted and we failed to sign, and the fact that, in a bizarre move, as soon as the Jan signings were put in the team, the manager, who allegedly picked them, moaned constantly about how they didn’t have enough experience for league two.
So something doesn’t add up.
I think what’s pretty clear is that either the process is so convoluted that the owners, Ling, nor the manager actually knows who was responsible, or that the wording on how they work has been manipulated to suit Ling (and to a degree, the owners, when they fail).
Saying that, after hearing bits about Kenny, he doesn’t exactly sound like he was of sound judgement in his time here, and either he did have a level of say (even if that was, take this player or nothing), or he didn’t have the bollocks to stand up for himself and the team and say no to the sh*t he was given.
Regardless, what matters is we don’t continue to make the same mistakes. The new ceo, with fresh eyes, should be all over this already. Refine the process, what went wrong, who does Richie want to work going forward, etc… my only issue is that Nigel and Martin have been so insistent on the success of the process, I think they are a bit blinded by it. Challenge culture and all that, Nigel, let’s start putting that into practice and let’s really challenge what we know and what we think we know so Richie gets the best chance of success.
The fact Wellens has come in as Head Coach rather than Manager, as KJ was, kind of worries me that he won't be given full control and it'll still be The Committee ie Ling making calls on what players we bring in.
Top 2 Budget allows that, a Top 8 means we get Leftovers & Not STEAK !Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:32 pmOr maybe get someone in to negotiate who CAN secure our first, second or third choices. Not the 6th or 7th.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:05 am Personally I would choose to go with exactly who Richie wants without any interference from our inept transfer committee .lastly, if we’re unable to bring in our manager’s first, second or even third choice of players then we should just forget it and play our youngsters. If our January business is anything to go by we’d save money and be miles better of.
The Question is a Top 8 budget.Story of O wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:45 pm Is there a set amount which makes a top 2 budget? Also wondering who decides what is and isn't a top 2 budget. Or is it just that those who finish in the top 2 by default have a top 2 budget just by being there, no matter how much they spent
Can’t remember you reporting any of my posts for bullying. Criticism is a very different thing and I’m always very conscious of Lings past when I post, I’ve even mentioned it a few times.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:45 pmContinued abuse for 3 -4 years by you & othersApple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:36 pmI'm fully aware of Ling's struggles, thank you very much. He is in a position of power in a football club and is open to scrutiny. Saying that comments i've made could make someone kill themselves is very hurtful. I understand your point and we should all be careful with what we say about others, but i'm very confident that all of my comments have been very much on the right side of this debate.
Throwing around accusations that someone is a bully and could lead them to kill themselves is very serious, and without evidence could be more damaging than said comments themselves. I accept better from you and will be waiting for an apology otherwise i'll just block you and move on.
Week in Week out leads to cumalative build up.
Are you & others sure you know about Lings problems ?
I will question those who systematically abuse
People at this football club on this MB .
Youd better block because i have no reason to apologise.
Id expect more from the likes of you wums
To not fall into the moaning old git brigade .
I Dont need to report bullying .Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:22 pmCan’t remember you reporting any of my posts for bullying. Criticism is a very different thing and I’m always very conscious of Lings past when I post, I’ve even mentioned it a few times.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:45 pmContinued abuse for 3 -4 years by you & othersApple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:36 pm
I'm fully aware of Ling's struggles, thank you very much. He is in a position of power in a football club and is open to scrutiny. Saying that comments i've made could make someone kill themselves is very hurtful. I understand your point and we should all be careful with what we say about others, but i'm very confident that all of my comments have been very much on the right side of this debate.
Throwing around accusations that someone is a bully and could lead them to kill themselves is very serious, and without evidence could be more damaging than said comments themselves. I accept better from you and will be waiting for an apology otherwise i'll just block you and move on.
Week in Week out leads to cumalative build up.
Are you & others sure you know about Lings problems ?
I will question those who systematically abuse
People at this football club on this MB .
Youd better block because i have no reason to apologise.
Id expect more from the likes of you wums
To not fall into the moaning old git brigade .
I’d suggest you also take note of what saying someone might be responsible for the death of another might do to someone’s mental health.
Good to see the mods ineffectual as always.
You expect me to ban someone for pointing out that relentlessly criticising someone with mental health issues could lead to harm?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:22 pmCan’t remember you reporting any of my posts for bullying. Criticism is a very different thing and I’m always very conscious of Lings past when I post, I’ve even mentioned it a few times.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:45 pmContinued abuse for 3 -4 years by you & othersApple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:36 pm
I'm fully aware of Ling's struggles, thank you very much. He is in a position of power in a football club and is open to scrutiny. Saying that comments i've made could make someone kill themselves is very hurtful. I understand your point and we should all be careful with what we say about others, but i'm very confident that all of my comments have been very much on the right side of this debate.
Throwing around accusations that someone is a bully and could lead them to kill themselves is very serious, and without evidence could be more damaging than said comments themselves. I accept better from you and will be waiting for an apology otherwise i'll just block you and move on.
Week in Week out leads to cumalative build up.
Are you & others sure you know about Lings problems ?
I will question those who systematically abuse
People at this football club on this MB .
Youd better block because i have no reason to apologise.
Id expect more from the likes of you wums
To not fall into the moaning old git brigade .
I’d suggest you also take note of what saying someone might be responsible for the death of another might do to someone’s mental health.
Good to see the mods ineffectual as always.
If either of you can find any posts you think could lead someone who’s in a powerful job at a football club and is well aware of the level of scrutiny involved. And by his own account, it doesn’t bother him. Then I’ll apologise and reign in my words.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:31 pmYou expect me to ban someone for pointing out that relentlessly criticising someone with mental health issues could lead to harm?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:22 pmCan’t remember you reporting any of my posts for bullying. Criticism is a very different thing and I’m always very conscious of Lings past when I post, I’ve even mentioned it a few times.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:45 pm
Continued abuse for 3 -4 years by you & others
Week in Week out leads to cumalative build up.
Are you & others sure you know about Lings problems ?
I will question those who systematically abuse
People at this football club on this MB .
Youd better block because i have no reason to apologise.
Id expect more from the likes of you wums
To not fall into the moaning old git brigade .
I’d suggest you also take note of what saying someone might be responsible for the death of another might do to someone’s mental health.
Good to see the mods ineffectual as always.
Justin Edingburgh asked for Alabi to come hereMassiveForehead wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:55 pmDidn't Ling watch James Alabi for 18 months before bringing him in?
I think generally being an irritating clown who trashes every forum thread he engages in (which is most of them), is grounds for dismissal.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:31 pmYou expect me to ban someone for pointing out that relentlessly criticising someone with mental health issues could lead to harm?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:22 pmCan’t remember you reporting any of my posts for bullying. Criticism is a very different thing and I’m always very conscious of Lings past when I post, I’ve even mentioned it a few times.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:45 pm
Continued abuse for 3 -4 years by you & others
Week in Week out leads to cumalative build up.
Are you & others sure you know about Lings problems ?
I will question those who systematically abuse
People at this football club on this MB .
Youd better block because i have no reason to apologise.
Id expect more from the likes of you wums
To not fall into the moaning old git brigade .
I’d suggest you also take note of what saying someone might be responsible for the death of another might do to someone’s mental health.
Good to see the mods ineffectual as always.
I get that people take it to far. But that’s never me imo. It’s always an opinion purely on his ability of his job. If we can’t scrutinise or share opinions of players or staff (in a respectful way) then what’s the point of the forum really? Especially if you’re going to be accused of potentially factoring into ending someone’s life. That’s more responsibility than I want to take for sharing an opinion on someone’s role at my club. Again, if you can find anything you think goes beyond the line then please let me know. I’ll apologise unreservedly. But really not sure I feel comfortable on the board if you cannot freely express non abusive opinions.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:52 pm It Bothers Him Wums
He may say it doesnt but thats Machismo for you.
3-4 years of Ling abuse on this forum on Facebook pages are bullying by many not just you .
Ling picks his son so its Nepotism
Actually Justin Ross & others picked his son.
The DoF is to blame always they shout .
Why ?
The Owners Employ him
They set the budgets
They set the Formula & structure .
How is that any fault of the DoF .
Half Wits everywhwre shouting to
Other Half Wits
BLAME LING .
Because some Fool decided he didnt like the
Way Ling answered a question once .
Nitt picking was how his problems 1st started
Be it by His CUFC boss or Fans or Media ..
Time for the Hate to Stop
As all it is Hate .
1 missile didnt destroy MariupolApple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:01 pmI get that people take it to far. But that’s never me imo. It’s always an opinion purely on his ability of his job. If we can’t scrutinise or share opinions of players or staff (in a respectful way) then what’s the point of the forum really? Especially if you’re going to be accused of potentially factoring into ending someone’s life. That’s more responsibility than I want to take for sharing an opinion on someone’s role at my club. Again, if you can find anything you think goes beyond the line then please let me know. I’ll apologise unreservedly. But really not sure I feel comfortable on the board if you cannot freely express non abusive opinions.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:52 pm It Bothers Him Wums
He may say it doesnt but thats Machismo for you.
3-4 years of Ling abuse on this forum on Facebook pages are bullying by many not just you .
Ling picks his son so its Nepotism
Actually Justin Ross & others picked his son.
The DoF is to blame always they shout .
Why ?
The Owners Employ him
They set the budgets
They set the Formula & structure .
How is that any fault of the DoF .
Half Wits everywhwre shouting to
Other Half Wits
BLAME LING .
Because some Fool decided he didnt like the
Way Ling answered a question once .
Nitt picking was how his problems 1st started
Be it by His CUFC boss or Fans or Media ..
Time for the Hate to Stop
As all it is Hate .