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Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:13 pm
by Tuffers#2
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:40 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:26 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:18 pm
I am going to make your interrogation more realistic by strapping myself to a chair and swinging a light bulb above my head, hang on a bit…….
No Interogation , Just smoking out a Bullsh1tter.
I posted the Sun link as it is free, the Telegraph is subscription only.
In any event still being thoroughly investigated.
The Sun nor the Telegraph said Hamas Operative attacks U.K.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:25 pm
by Daily Express bot
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:13 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:40 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:26 pm
No Interogation , Just smoking out a Bullsh1tter.
I posted the Sun link as it is free, the Telegraph is subscription only.
In any event still being thoroughly investigated.
The Sun nor the Telegraph said Hamas Operative attacks U.K.
I wish you were as enthusiastic defending British citizens. Several were murdered by Hamas terrorists in Israel two weeks ago, including British children,
Where do your loyalties lie essentially? You are the only person mentioning operatives.
The allegations are still being investigated against recent events here. Closely guarded inquiries into events. Let us see how this transpires. It has come from decent sources that it is linked to terrorism .
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:37 pm
by Tuffers#2
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:25 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:13 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:40 pm
I posted the Sun link as it is free, the Telegraph is subscription only.
In any event still being thoroughly investigated.
The Sun nor the Telegraph said Hamas Operative attacks U.K.
I wish you were as enthusiastic defending British citizens. Several were murdered by Hamas terrorists in Israel two weeks ago, including British children,
Where do your loyalties lie essentially? You are the only person mentioning operatives.
The allegations are still being investigated against recent events here. Closely guarded inquiries into events. Let us see how this transpires. It has come from decent sources that it is linked to terrorism .
What about British Citizens killed by Israel ? Why are you only concerned by the deaths of one group & not all groups. 5,500 tragic deaths, 1400 of which were Israeli. My loyalties lay squarely with Humanity, unlike you.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:52 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Just seen a video on Twitter with a little Palestinian boy, crying, he's just seen his friends brains blown out.
Why is this killing of children by the Israelis still happening?
I'm really upset at the moment. Just horrible seeing that.
The Hamas killings were terrible, but what Israel has done, is a thousand times worse .
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:00 pm
by faldO
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:52 pm
The Hamas killings were terrible, but what Israel has done, is a thousand times worse .
Could you please provide your workings, I'd be interested to see how you arrive at the "thousand times worse" figure.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:30 pm
by Daily Express bot
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:37 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:25 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:13 pm
The Sun nor the Telegraph said Hamas Operative attacks U.K.
I wish you were as enthusiastic defending British citizens. Several were murdered by Hamas terrorists in Israel two weeks ago, including British children,
Where do your loyalties lie essentially? You are the only person mentioning operatives.
The allegations are still being investigated against recent events here. Closely guarded inquiries into events. Let us see how this transpires. It has come from decent sources that it is linked to terrorism .
What about British Citizens killed by Israel ? Why are you only concerned by the deaths of one group & not all groups. 5,500 tragic deaths, 1400 of which were Israeli. My loyalties lay squarely with Humanity, unlike you.
If you look at the start of this thread you can see what my thoughts are about all innocent civilians and my desire for a ceasefire.
Am sorry to reiterate but Hamas instigated recent hostilities by invading a democratic sovereign state, killing innocent civilians and taking their citizens hostage. Gaza is not a country and Hamas are terrorists according to the most of democratically elected MP’s of the UK including our PM Rishi Sunak and the Leader of the Opposition Sir Kier Starmer
It is of course appalling that innocent Palestinians have been killed and injured, it is what Hamas desires as their goal
Is the complete eradication of Israel and their people. Israel have never started a War and have always reacted defensively.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:50 pm
by Tuffers#2
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:30 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:37 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:25 pm
I wish you were as enthusiastic defending British citizens. Several were murdered by Hamas terrorists in Israel two weeks ago, including British children,
Where do your loyalties lie essentially? You are the only person mentioning operatives.
The allegations are still being investigated against recent events here. Closely guarded inquiries into events. Let us see how this transpires. It has come from decent sources that it is linked to terrorism .
What about British Citizens killed by Israel ? Why are you only concerned by the deaths of one group & not all groups. 5,500 tragic deaths, 1400 of which were Israeli. My loyalties lay squarely with Humanity, unlike you.
If you look at the start of this thread you can see what my thoughts are about all innocent civilians and my desire for a ceasefire.
Am sorry to reiterate but Hamas instigated recent hostilities by invading a democratic sovereign state, killing innocent civilians and taking their citizens hostage. Gaza is not a country and Hamas are terrorists according to the most of democratically elected MP’s of the UK including our PM Rishi Sunak and the Leader of the Opposition Sir Kier Starmer
It is of course appalling that innocent Palestinians have been killed and injured, it is what Hamas desires as their goal
Is the complete eradication of Israel and their people. Israel have never started a War and have always reacted defensively.
I'm sorry this past year Israel killed more than any year since 2000. since 2000 11,500 Palestinians were killed by Israel, 2200 Israelis died in the same period. Israel has breeched UNHRC on 44 occasions Human rights since 2005. Israel is still in breech of UN resolution 242. 56 years after it was drafted.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:59 pm
by Neptune's Spear
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:50 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:30 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:37 pm
What about British Citizens killed by Israel ? Why are you only concerned by the deaths of one group & not all groups. 5,500 tragic deaths, 1400 of which were Israeli. My loyalties lay squarely with Humanity, unlike you.
If you look at the start of this thread you can see what my thoughts are about all innocent civilians and my desire for a ceasefire.
Am sorry to reiterate but Hamas instigated recent hostilities by invading a democratic sovereign state, killing innocent civilians and taking their citizens hostage. Gaza is not a country and Hamas are terrorists according to the most of democratically elected MP’s of the UK including our PM Rishi Sunak and the Leader of the Opposition Sir Kier Starmer
It is of course appalling that innocent Palestinians have been killed and injured, it is what Hamas desires as their goal
Is the complete eradication of Israel and their people. Israel have never started a War and have always reacted defensively.
I'm sorry this past year Israel killed more than any year since 2000. since 2000 11,500 Palestinians were killed by Israel, 2200 Israelis died in the same period. Israel has breeched UNHRC on 44 occasions Human rights since 2005. Israel is still in breech of UN resolution 242. 56 years after it was drafted.
Where do you get your statistics from ?
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:03 pm
by faldO
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:50 pm
I'm sorry this past year Israel killed more than any year since 2000. since 2000 11,500 Palestinians were killed by Israel, 2200 Israelis died in the same period. Israel has breeched UNHRC on 44 occasions Human rights since 2005. Israel is still in breech of UN resolution 242. 56 years after it was drafted.
I wouldn't listen too much to the UNHCR, it's not exactly impartial when it comes to its dealing with Israel.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:11 pm
by Tuffers#2
Neptune's Spear wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:59 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:50 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:30 pm
If you look at the start of this thread you can see what my thoughts are about all innocent civilians and my desire for a ceasefire.
Am sorry to reiterate but Hamas instigated recent hostilities by invading a democratic sovereign state, killing innocent civilians and taking their citizens hostage. Gaza is not a country and Hamas are terrorists according to the most of democratically elected MP’s of the UK including our PM Rishi Sunak and the Leader of the Opposition Sir Kier Starmer
It is of course appalling that innocent Palestinians have been killed and injured, it is what Hamas desires as their goal
Is the complete eradication of Israel and their people. Israel have never started a War and have always reacted defensively.
I'm sorry this past year Israel killed more than any year since 2000. since 2000 11,500 Palestinians were killed by Israel, 2200 Israelis died in the same period. Israel has breeched UNHRC on 44 occasions Human rights since 2005. Israel is still in breech of UN resolution 242. 56 years after it was drafted.
Where do you get your statistics from ?
UNHRC or UNICEF. Simply google UN Resolutions/Sanctions Israel.Or how many Palestinians killed by Israel since 2000 Unicef. Pretty easy to find. edit edit Amnesty for Unicef.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:14 pm
by Tuffers#2
faldO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:03 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:50 pm
I'm sorry this past year Israel killed more than any year since 2000. since 2000 11,500 Palestinians were killed by Israel, 2200 Israelis died in the same period. Israel has breeched UNHRC on 44 occasions Human rights since 2005. Israel is still in breech of UN resolution 242. 56 years after it was drafted.
I wouldn't listen too much to the UNHCR, it's not exactly impartial when it comes to its dealing with Israel.
UNHRC is the bastion that sorts those who do wrong to Humanity. It is exactly who should be listened to.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:45 pm
by Long slender neck
Post the link for your claims Joe. Telling people to Google it isnt good enough.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:48 pm
by BoniO
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:45 pm
Post the link for your claims Joe. Telling people to Google it isnt good enough.
I think it would be useful to also ask LCL and Faldo why they don’t trust data from UNHCR and secondly, what media organ do they think is trustworthy?
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:05 pm
by Tuffers#2
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:45 pm
Post the link for your claims Joe. Telling people to Google it isnt good enough.
Will have to be sometime after Tuesday. Phone & Laptop left at work & only using my television.
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:46 am
by Neptune's Spear
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:11 pm
Neptune's Spear wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:59 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:50 pm
I'm sorry this past year Israel killed more than any year since 2000. since 2000 11,500 Palestinians were killed by Israel, 2200 Israelis died in the same period. Israel has breeched UNHRC on 44 occasions Human rights since 2005. Israel is still in breech of UN resolution 242. 56 years after it was drafted.
Where do you get your statistics from ?
UNHRC or UNICEF. Simply google UN Resolutions/Sanctions Israel.Or how many Palestinians killed by Israel since 2000 Unicef. Pretty easy to find. edit edit Amnesty for Unicef.
Don't think about facts and figures, in a couple of weeks everything will turn out ok and you'll be a very happy man
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:55 am
by FrankOFile
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:37 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:25 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:13 pm
The Sun nor the Telegraph said Hamas Operative attacks U.K.
I wish you were as enthusiastic defending British citizens. Several were murdered by Hamas terrorists in Israel two weeks ago, including British children,
Where do your loyalties lie essentially? You are the only person mentioning operatives.
The allegations are still being investigated against recent events here. Closely guarded inquiries into events. Let us see how this transpires. It has come from decent sources that it is linked to terrorism .
What about British Citizens killed by Israel ? Why are you only concerned by the deaths of one group & not all groups. 5,500 tragic deaths, 1400 of which were Israeli. My loyalties lay squarely with Humanity, unlike you.
Who said he isn’t concerned? The problem is moderates abhor all innocent deaths. You flag-wavers for Hamas and other terrorist groups cannot bring yourself to acknowledge Jewish loss of life.
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:58 am
by FrankOFile
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:08 pm
FrankOFile wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:55 am
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:26 am
Fair dos, you gave the schtick a good go, kept it up longer than many of us would have been able to. It'll be much easier for you to just post as a hard right crank from hereon.
This doesn’t even make sense. Is the frothing at the mouth causing even more irrationality on your part?
More projection from the Board's own Mr Level Headed.
I don’t have a socialist worker newspaper covering my eyes, so I can see senseless deaths everywhere. Take off the blinkers and admit to the terrorism of Hamas other than embarking on your usual whataboutery..
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:00 am
by FrankOFile
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:27 pm
FrankOFile wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:52 am
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:46 am
Good to see you revelling in a hospital being hit and people dying, because it wasn’t your side (possibly) that did it
Whay a moronic post. Given that Israel was blamed for this outrage, it is balance to point out that Hamas was responsible.
Innocent loss of life is awful on either side. Your pitiful attempt to try to make political gains from it is reprehensible.
Is it balanced to say “it is the Hamas rocket “? And balanced to make a crap joke about the launcher being “unhinged” when children were killed?
Have a think, Clive, for once
This doesn’t make sense on any level.
So you still blame Israel for the hospital tragedy? Admit you were wrong, apologise and move on.
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:42 am
by Tuffers#2
FrankOFile wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:55 am
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:37 pm
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:25 pm
I wish you were as enthusiastic defending British citizens. Several were murdered by Hamas terrorists in Israel two weeks ago, including British children,
Where do your loyalties lie essentially? You are the only person mentioning operatives.
The allegations are still being investigated against recent events here. Closely guarded inquiries into events. Let us see how this transpires. It has come from decent sources that it is linked to terrorism .
What about British Citizens killed by Israel ? Why are you only concerned by the deaths of one group & not all groups. 5,500 tragic deaths, 1400 of which were Israeli. My loyalties lay squarely with Humanity, unlike you.
Who said he isn’t concerned? The problem is moderates abhor all innocent deaths. You flag-wavers for Hamas and other terrorist groups cannot bring yourself to acknowledge Jewish loss of life.
IRead what I Wrote especially the bit About 1400 Israelis killed. Never waved a flag in my life mate. Jewish Christian & Muslim lives have the same value as each other in my eyes. Show me anywhere where I have supported terrorist groups.
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:43 am
by Tuffers#2
Neptune's Spear wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:46 am
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:11 pm
Neptune's Spear wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:59 pm
Where do you get your statistics from ?
UNHRC or UNICEF. Simply google UN Resolutions/Sanctions Israel.Or how many Palestinians killed by Israel since 2000 Unicef. Pretty easy to find. edit edit Amnesty for Unicef.
Don't think about facts and figures, in a couple of weeks everything will turn out ok and you'll be a very happy man
I doubt that.
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:24 am
by CEB
The guardian headline is pretty odd, no? Like, focusing on the need for Israel to negotiate the release of hostages rather than the need for Hamas to release them. Weird
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:49 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:52 am
by CEB
Interested to see if anyone here tries to defend it.
I suspect it’ll just be ignored as inconvenient.
Aside from Max, who no doubt will tie himself in knots
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:53 am
by CEB
Oh wait, I just clicked on Pam’s link, so I need to quickly bet my house on “sharing tweets by Quillete are we?” as the defence
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:30 am
by Dunners
The organisational structure of Hamas is purposely designed to avoid typical structural forms of hierarchy. Similar to how ISIS was structured.
This gives it resilience to targeted attacks and assassinations of leaders, but a consequence of this is that it is disjointed and with limited central command. This can make any attempt to negotiation very difficult.