Seeing as I’m perceived as critical
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:38 pm
Please explain why Embleton is considered a good manager.
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Who has said He is a good Manager ?
You continue to lionise him like he is Bill Shankly or something.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:06 pmWho has said He is a good Manager ?
Plenty have said he is not playing with HIS players.
Most are left here from our 1st season in non league.
His signings have been decent players
Vig' Cisse DJ .
Wilkinson & Angol may do ok , virtually everyone else is left over from Before.
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If Only Jobi was 32 again.
For myself, it's not necessarily about being good. I think he's done an OK job in difficult circumstances. Always room for improvement. As to you being perceived as critical, for me, it's because it's too easy to say 'he's rubbish, time to get rid'. You'd have more credibility if, occasionally, you came up with some constructive criticism.
New managers inheriting a squad ain’t new. Happens every time a manager changes. For me one of the key skills of a manager is getting the best out of the guys you inherit and maybe adding a few newbies over time.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:06 pmWho has said He is a good Manager ?
Plenty have said he is not playing with HIS players.
Most are left here from our 1st season in non league.
His signings have been decent players
Vig' Cisse DJ .
Wilkinson & Angol may do ok , virtually everyone else is left over from Before.
.
If Only Jobi was 32 again.
There you go. He inherited a title winning squad, put together largely by... the same bloke who is actually bringing in the new players now. Trying to blame Embleton's failures on the people that preceded him is a pretty ludicrous excuse.Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:53 amNew managers inheriting a squad ain’t new. Happens every time a manager changes. For me one of the key skills of a manager is getting the best out of the guys you inherit and maybe adding a few newbies over time.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:06 pmWho has said He is a good Manager ?
Plenty have said he is not playing with HIS players.
Most are left here from our 1st season in non league.
His signings have been decent players
Vig' Cisse DJ .
Wilkinson & Angol may do ok , virtually everyone else is left over from Before.
.
If Only Jobi was 32 again.
Personally I think Boss inherited a decent squad, people who have been together a while. Supplemented by a couple of coaches who have also been with us for a while. Stability few new managers could only dream of. The issue is we are under performing by some margin. That may change, hopefully.
You could well be correct Red, it is getting a bit puzzling with so many players out of position when their replacements sit on the bench. I reckon he's got till Christmas.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:56 am The issue is why are we underperforming. I like Boss and believe he can be a good manager but this sticking square pegs into round holes is getting really annoying. Put players in they're best positions and keep them there barring any injuries . For example , play wilkinson has a CF beside Johnson and put JMD on the right side wing instead . Another one is stick Widdowson at LB with Brophy further up field on the left wing where he can run at opposing defences . it's not really rocket science .
Looking on the bright side, if we have a suffer another season of dreck in order to purge the club of the cold, dead hand of this managerial regime, then I'm glad it's one when I don't have to show up and sit through it every week.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:11 pm We will have to suffer for a period because the board have backed themselves into a corner, minimising our success. Just looking forward to moving on in 6-18 months and actually progressing as a club. Until then, we wait.
You don't have to show up ever if you don't want to. No one makes you attend.OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:26 pmLooking on the bright side, if we have a suffer another season of dreck in order to purge the club of the cold, dead hand of this managerial regime, then I'm glad it's one when I don't have to show up and sit through it every week.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:11 pm We will have to suffer for a period because the board have backed themselves into a corner, minimising our success. Just looking forward to moving on in 6-18 months and actually progressing as a club. Until then, we wait.
Nothing to do with the financial situation then.
i think theres a bit of a misconception that people on here call out things because they are 'experts' despite not being a coach or player. The truth is, some of the things that are pointed out week in week out are Guardiolan, they are the most basic of all basic tactics. In league two play the players in the positions they know how to play in, play your best players, defend as a unit, etc...Far out, man.North Stand Dave wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:26 pm What Red has said is Bang on.
Not sure if any on here are on the Orient supporters Facebook page but the same debate is happening on there & is also as heated.
But bottom line Boss needs to pick the team to play to its strengths & what Red has put alot of supporters have been saying the same thing.
On that page Danny Macklin monitors & comments a lot on, mainly if people have issues with streaming or ordering replica tops etc but the fact that he reads it one wonders if he reports back to Boss what fans are saying & debating.
I personally think he does from some of Boss's comments in his interviews, he hints on certain conversations that I've read in here & the Facebook page.
So is he just being stubborn & thinking "I'm not doing what they think I should do" or is he just tactically clueless?
Aye, it's not complicated. He hasn't got a scooby, so all he can do is roll the dice and hope for the best. Occasionally, it comes off.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:33 pmi think theres a bit of a misconception that people on here call out things because they are 'experts' despite not being a coach or player. The truth is, some of the things that are pointed out week in week out are Guardiolan, they are the most basic of all basic tactics. In league two play the players in the positions they know how to play in, play your best players, defend as a unit, etc...Far out, man.North Stand Dave wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:26 pm What Red has said is Bang on.
Not sure if any on here are on the Orient supporters Facebook page but the same debate is happening on there & is also as heated.
But bottom line Boss needs to pick the team to play to its strengths & what Red has put alot of supporters have been saying the same thing.
On that page Danny Macklin monitors & comments a lot on, mainly if people have issues with streaming or ordering replica tops etc but the fact that he reads it one wonders if he reports back to Boss what fans are saying & debating.
I personally think he does from some of Boss's comments in his interviews, he hints on certain conversations that I've read in here & the Facebook page.
So is he just being stubborn & thinking "I'm not doing what they think I should do" or is he just tactically clueless?
Unfortunately I don't think its stubbornness, I think it's overthinking and ultimately ineptitude.
If he's wilfully ignoring tactical advice from a load of inept, unqualified keyboard warriors then, well done, Ross I say.North Stand Dave wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:26 pm What Red has said is Bang on.
Not sure if any on here are on the Orient supporters Facebook page but the same debate is happening on there & is also as heated.
But bottom line Boss needs to pick the team to play to its strengths & what Red has put alot of supporters have been saying the same thing.
On that page Danny Macklin monitors & comments a lot on, mainly if people have issues with streaming or ordering replica tops etc but the fact that he reads it one wonders if he reports back to Boss what fans are saying & debating.
I personally think he does from some of Boss's comments in his interviews, he hints on certain conversations that I've read in here & the Facebook page.
So is he just being stubborn & thinking "I'm not doing what they think I should do" or is he just tactically clueless?