Seeing as I’m perceived as critical

[cockhat]

Please explain why Embleton is considered a good manager.

[Long slender neck]

Was doing well until we got covaids.

[Dohnut]

Please explain why Embleton is considered a good manager.

He’s really good at saying I don’t make excuses, whilst making excuses. Can’t fault him.

[LittleMate]

He’s really good at saying I don’t make excuses, whilst making excuses. Can’t fault him.

Whilst faulting him

[tuffers#1]

Please explain why Embleton is considered a good manager.

Who has said He is a good Manager ?

Plenty have said he is not playing with HIS players.
Most are left here from our 1st season in non league.

His signings have been decent players
Vig' Cisse DJ .
Wilkinson & Angol may do ok , virtually everyone else is left over from Before.
.
If Only Jobi was 32 again.

[Disoriented]

Please explain why Embleton is considered a good manager.

Who has said He is a good Manager ?

Plenty have said he is not playing with HIS players.
Most are left here from our 1st season in non league.

His signings have been decent players
Vig' Cisse DJ .
Wilkinson & Angol may do ok , virtually everyone else is left over from Before.
.
If Only Jobi was 32 again.

You continue to lionise him like he is Bill Shankly or something.

Face the facts - He isn’t even remotely in Ian Hendon’s class.

[EH16]

Please explain why Embleton is considered a good manager.

For myself, it's not necessarily about being good. I think he's done an OK job in difficult circumstances. Always room for improvement. As to you being perceived as critical, for me, it's because it's too easy to say 'he's rubbish, time to get rid'. You'd have more credibility if, occasionally, you came up with some constructive criticism.

[Ornchurch]

Problem is that he is still perceived as a stopgap and people want a proper manager brought in to move the club on from the 'JE Era' but after the 'CF Incident' the club are scared to do so in case they balls it up again so club is in limbo.

[Beradogs]

Nothing results wise but I get the feeling he is growing into the job when listening to him in interviews etc. Seems a tad pissed off and I like that in a manager. Very relaxed when talking and confident. I like that as well. Get the feeling the players got a bolloking after last nights game. It’s his tactical knowledge that worries me. To pick Ling week in and week out albeit he did not play last night suggests someone is either watching with the wrong specs on or perhaps it is coming from above in which case he needs to step out of Ross and go full RED ROSSSS.

[Dohnut]

Please explain why Embleton is considered a good manager.

Who has said He is a good Manager ?

Plenty have said he is not playing with HIS players.
Most are left here from our 1st season in non league.

His signings have been decent players
Vig' Cisse DJ .
Wilkinson & Angol may do ok , virtually everyone else is left over from Before.
.
If Only Jobi was 32 again.

New managers inheriting a squad ain’t new. Happens every time a manager changes. For me one of the key skills of a manager is getting the best out of the guys you inherit and maybe adding a few newbies over time.

Personally I think Ross inherited a decent squad, people who have been together a while. Supplemented by a couple of coaches who have also been with us for a while. Stability few new managers could only dream of. The issue is we are under performing by some margin. That may change, hopefully.

[RedDwarf 1881]

The issue is why are we underperforming. I like Ross and believe he can be a good manager but this sticking square pegs into round holes is getting really annoying. Put players in they're best positions and keep them there barring any injuries . For example , play wilkinson has a CF beside Johnson and put JMD on the right side wing instead . Another one is stick Widdowson at LB with Brophy further up field on the left wing where he can run at opposing defences . it's not really rocket science .

[OyinbO]

Please explain why Embleton is considered a good manager.

Who has said He is a good Manager ?

Plenty have said he is not playing with HIS players.
Most are left here from our 1st season in non league.

His signings have been decent players
Vig' Cisse DJ .
Wilkinson & Angol may do ok , virtually everyone else is left over from Before.
.
If Only Jobi was 32 again.

New managers inheriting a squad ain’t new. Happens every time a manager changes. For me one of the key skills of a manager is getting the best out of the guys you inherit and maybe adding a few newbies over time.

Personally I think Boss inherited a decent squad, people who have been together a while. Supplemented by a couple of coaches who have also been with us for a while. Stability few new managers could only dream of. The issue is we are under performing by some margin. That may change, hopefully.

There you go. He inherited a title winning squad, put together largely by... the same bloke who is actually bringing in the new players now. Trying to blame Embleton's failures on the people that preceded him is a pretty ludicrous excuse.

[soloman]

The issue is why are we underperforming. I like Boss and believe he can be a good manager but this sticking square pegs into round holes is getting really annoying. Put players in they're best positions and keep them there barring any injuries . For example , play wilkinson has a CF beside Johnson and put JMD on the right side wing instead . Another one is stick Widdowson at LB with Brophy further up field on the left wing where he can run at opposing defences . it's not really rocket science .

You could well be correct Red, it is getting a bit puzzling with so many players out of position when their replacements sit on the bench. I reckon he's got till Christmas.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

We will have to suffer for a period because the board have backed themselves into a corner, minimising our success. Just looking forward to moving on in 6-18 months and actually progressing as a club. Until then, we wait.

[OyinbO]

We will have to suffer for a period because the board have backed themselves into a corner, minimising our success. Just looking forward to moving on in 6-18 months and actually progressing as a club. Until then, we wait.

Looking on the bright side, if we have a suffer another season of dreck in order to purge the club of the cold, dead hand of this managerial regime, then I'm glad it's one when I don't have to show up and sit through it every week.

[EH16]

We will have to suffer for a period because the board have backed themselves into a corner, minimising our success. Just looking forward to moving on in 6-18 months and actually progressing as a club. Until then, we wait.

Looking on the bright side, if we have a suffer another season of dreck in order to purge the club of the cold, dead hand of this managerial regime, then I'm glad it's one when I don't have to show up and sit through it every week.

You don't have to show up ever if you don't want to. No one makes you attend.

[DuvB]

Problem is that he is still perceived as a stopgap and people want a proper manager brought in to move the club on from the 'JE Era' but after the 'CF Incident' the club are scared to do so in case they balls it up again so club is in limbo.

Nothing to do with the financial situation then.

[North Stand Dave]

What Red has said is Bang on.

Not sure if any on here are on the Orient supporters Facebook page but the same debate is happening on there & is also as heated.
But bottom line Ross needs to pick the team to play to its strengths & what Red has put alot of supporters have been saying the same thing.
On that page Danny Macklin monitors & comments a lot on, mainly if people have issues with streaming or ordering replica tops etc but the fact that he reads it one wonders if he reports back to Ross what fans are saying & debating.
I personally think he does from some of Ross's comments in his interviews, he hints on certain conversations that I've read in here & the Facebook page.
So is he just being stubborn & thinking "I'm not doing what they think I should do" or is he just tactically clueless?

[Rich Tea Wellin]

What Red has said is Bang on.

Not sure if any on here are on the Orient supporters Facebook page but the same debate is happening on there & is also as heated.
But bottom line Boss needs to pick the team to play to its strengths & what Red has put alot of supporters have been saying the same thing.
On that page Danny Macklin monitors & comments a lot on, mainly if people have issues with streaming or ordering replica tops etc but the fact that he reads it one wonders if he reports back to Boss what fans are saying & debating.
I personally think he does from some of Boss's comments in his interviews, he hints on certain conversations that I've read in here & the Facebook page.
So is he just being stubborn & thinking "I'm not doing what they think I should do" or is he just tactically clueless?

i think theres a bit of a misconception that people on here call out things because they are 'experts' despite not being a coach or player. The truth is, some of the things that are pointed out week in week out are Guardiolan, they are the most basic of all basic tactics. In league two play the players in the positions they know how to play in, play your best players, defend as a unit, etc...Far out, man.

Unfortunately I don't think its stubbornness, I think it's overthinking and ultimately ineptitude.

[OyinbO]

What Red has said is Bang on.

Not sure if any on here are on the Orient supporters Facebook page but the same debate is happening on there & is also as heated.
But bottom line Boss needs to pick the team to play to its strengths & what Red has put alot of supporters have been saying the same thing.
On that page Danny Macklin monitors & comments a lot on, mainly if people have issues with streaming or ordering replica tops etc but the fact that he reads it one wonders if he reports back to Boss what fans are saying & debating.
I personally think he does from some of Boss's comments in his interviews, he hints on certain conversations that I've read in here & the Facebook page.
So is he just being stubborn & thinking "I'm not doing what they think I should do" or is he just tactically clueless?

i think theres a bit of a misconception that people on here call out things because they are 'experts' despite not being a coach or player. The truth is, some of the things that are pointed out week in week out are Guardiolan, they are the most basic of all basic tactics. In league two play the players in the positions they know how to play in, play your best players, defend as a unit, etc...Far out, man.

Unfortunately I don't think its stubbornness, I think it's overthinking and ultimately ineptitude.

Aye, it's not complicated. He hasn't got a scooby, so all he can do is roll the dice and hope for the best. Occasionally, it comes off.

He's just a fan who landed his dream job by some incredible flukes. That's why some people support him, because they can identify with him. But it does mean that his decision making is about on a par with all us numpties who criticise him across social media.

[EH16]

What Red has said is Bang on.

Not sure if any on here are on the Orient supporters Facebook page but the same debate is happening on there & is also as heated.
But bottom line Boss needs to pick the team to play to its strengths & what Red has put alot of supporters have been saying the same thing.
On that page Danny Macklin monitors & comments a lot on, mainly if people have issues with streaming or ordering replica tops etc but the fact that he reads it one wonders if he reports back to Boss what fans are saying & debating.
I personally think he does from some of Boss's comments in his interviews, he hints on certain conversations that I've read in here & the Facebook page.
So is he just being stubborn & thinking "I'm not doing what they think I should do" or is he just tactically clueless?

If he's wilfully ignoring tactical advice from a load of inept, unqualified keyboard warriors then, well done, Ross I say.

[Ornchurch]

Problem is that he is still perceived as a stopgap and people want a proper manager brought in to move the club on from the 'JE Era' but after the 'CF Incident' the club are scared to do so in case they balls it up again so club is in limbo.

Nothing to do with the financial situation then.

Not really.

The club got themselves in this mess before Covid and before the financial situation hit.

[tuffers#1]

You continue to lionise him like he is Bill Shankly or something.

Face the facts - He isn’t even remotely in Ian Hendon’s class.

Stop Lying Des
On both counts !!