Nottingham murders
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:39 pm
What the heck has gone on here?
At least it looks as if they've now got the guy responsible.
At least it looks as if they've now got the guy responsible.
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Think they're probably more likely to look at the fact that the sort of services that are in place to deal with vulnerable and sometimes dangerous people (social care, mental health support, police) are chronically underfunded. That's true whether the person in question is a British citizen or an illegal immigrant.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
But dont worry because all the liberals will sympathise with his mental health problems whilst innocent kids die
My children’s schoolmates went to Nottingham and I personally find this atrocity very hard to bear. So your attempts to blame others for what this man has done doesn’t wash with me.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:34 pmThink they're probably more likely to look at the fact that the sort of services that are in place to deal with vulnerable and sometimes dangerous people (social care, mental health support, police) are chronically underfunded. That's true whether the person in question is a British citizen or an illegal immigrant.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
But dont worry because all the liberals will sympathise with his mental health problems whilst innocent kids die
Your attempt to blame where someone was born because it wasn’t here doesn’t wash with me and completely minimises the tragedy that’s occurred here.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:09 pmMy children’s schoolmates went to Nottingham and I personally find this atrocity very hard to bear. So your attempts to blame others for what this man has done doesn’t wash with me.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:34 pmThink they're probably more likely to look at the fact that the sort of services that are in place to deal with vulnerable and sometimes dangerous people (social care, mental health support, police) are chronically underfunded. That's true whether the person in question is a British citizen or an illegal immigrant.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
But dont worry because all the liberals will sympathise with his mental health problems whilst innocent kids die
Not seen this reported. If he has history, shame this wasn't picked up earlier.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
But dont worry because all the liberals will sympathise with his mental health problems whilst innocent kids die
GB News apparently the farage bloke !Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:56 pmNot seen this reported. If he has history, shame this wasn't picked up earlier.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
But dont worry because all the liberals will sympathise with his mental health problems whilst innocent kids die
It’s not a tragedy, it’s an atrocity.OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:24 pmYour attempt to blame where someone was born because it wasn’t here doesn’t wash with me and completely minimises the tragedy that’s occurred here.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:09 pmMy children’s schoolmates went to Nottingham and I personally find this atrocity very hard to bear. So your attempts to blame others for what this man has done doesn’t wash with me.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:34 pm
Think they're probably more likely to look at the fact that the sort of services that are in place to deal with vulnerable and sometimes dangerous people (social care, mental health support, police) are chronically underfunded. That's true whether the person in question is a British citizen or an illegal immigrant.
You’re missing the pointContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:14 amIt’s not a tragedy, it’s an atrocity.OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:24 pmYour attempt to blame where someone was born because it wasn’t here doesn’t wash with me and completely minimises the tragedy that’s occurred here.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:09 pm
My children’s schoolmates went to Nottingham and I personally find this atrocity very hard to bear. So your attempts to blame others for what this man has done doesn’t wash with me.
ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:14 amIt’s not a tragedy, it’s an atrocity.OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:24 pmYour attempt to blame where someone was born because it wasn’t here doesn’t wash with me and completely minimises the tragedy that’s occurred here.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:09 pm
My children’s schoolmates went to Nottingham and I personally find this atrocity very hard to bear. So your attempts to blame others for what this man has done doesn’t wash with me.
Precisely. "I'm worried that our society is becoming much more dangerous...but ain't really interested in what's helping make it that way and not so worried as to be concerned about how, with greater understanding of this we can maybe stop similar events (other than, Certain Brown Guys Bad)"Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:08 am Who is making excuses? Holding the guy who did it responsible is not incompatible with holding the defunding of services as also partly responsible. You are looking for an argument that no-one is making by creating a left wing strawman.
Being aware of what drives awful stuff like this is how you reduce its likelihood of occuring again in the future, would be really weird and counterproductive if we didn't ask questions of the context in which it happened.
I thought media were reporting he was here legally and had been since his Teens.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
But dont worry because all the liberals will sympathise with his mental health problems whilst innocent kids die
Fred in his yoof actually looked like a Left Wing Straw man with his Red Hair & Duffle Coat!Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:08 am Who is making excuses? Holding the guy who did it responsible is not incompatible with holding the defunding of services as also partly responsible. You are looking for an argument that no-one is making by creating a left wing strawman.
Being aware of what drives awful stuff like this is how you reduce its likelihood of occuring again in the future, would be really weird and counterproductive if we didn't ask questions of the context in which it happened.
A West African migrant accused of the murders of three people in Nottingham yesterday is said to be refusing to answer questions from police - as he was described as having a history of petty drug dealing and mental health problems.
The 31-year-old, who is believed to have arrived in the country as a teenager and is not thought to be a refugee, is being questioned over the deaths of two students and a man in his 50s - as well as the injuring of three others.
He was known to police but does not have a criminal record, according to sources. The man, who has settled status, is believed to have lived in the UK for over a decade and was described by neighbours as a 'very quiet guy', the Telegraph reported.
Except he's not illegal and he's not undocumented.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
But dont worry because all the liberals will sympathise with his mental health problems whilst innocent kids die
The brown guys are terrorsism related. This was a black guy, allegedly, so that makes it gang or drug related.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:11 amPrecisely. "I'm worried that our society is becoming much more dangerous...but ain't really interested in what's helping make it that way and not so worried as to be concerned about how, with greater understanding of this we can maybe stop similar events (other than, Certain Brown Guys Bad)"Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:08 am Who is making excuses? Holding the guy who did it responsible is not incompatible with holding the defunding of services as also partly responsible. You are looking for an argument that no-one is making by creating a left wing strawman.
Being aware of what drives awful stuff like this is how you reduce its likelihood of occuring again in the future, would be really weird and counterproductive if we didn't ask questions of the context in which it happened.
Never had a duffel coat but the rest is right.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:27 amMistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:08 am Who is making excuses? Holding the guy who did it responsible is not incompatible with holding the defunding of services as also partly responsible. You are looking for an argument that no-one is making by creating a left wing strawman.
Being aware of what drives awful stuff like this is how you reduce its likelihood of occuring again in the future, would be really weird and counterproductive if we didn't ask questions of the context in which it happened.
Fred in his yoof actually looked like a Left Wing Straw man with his Red Hair & Duffle Coat!