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Nottingham murders
What the heck has gone on here?
At least it looks as if they've now got the guy responsible.
At least it looks as if they've now got the guy responsible.
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Re: Nottingham murders
Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
But dont worry because all the liberals will sympathise with his mental health problems whilst innocent kids die
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From looking at the comments, it’s nuts that the police have used a stock photo to illustrate an arrest.
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Think they're probably more likely to look at the fact that the sort of services that are in place to deal with vulnerable and sometimes dangerous people (social care, mental health support, police) are chronically underfunded. That's true whether the person in question is a British citizen or an illegal immigrant.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
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My children’s schoolmates went to Nottingham and I personally find this atrocity very hard to bear. So your attempts to blame others for what this man has done doesn’t wash with me.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:34 pmThink they're probably more likely to look at the fact that the sort of services that are in place to deal with vulnerable and sometimes dangerous people (social care, mental health support, police) are chronically underfunded. That's true whether the person in question is a British citizen or an illegal immigrant.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
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Your attempt to blame where someone was born because it wasn’t here doesn’t wash with me and completely minimises the tragedy that’s occurred here.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:09 pmMy children’s schoolmates went to Nottingham and I personally find this atrocity very hard to bear. So your attempts to blame others for what this man has done doesn’t wash with me.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:34 pmThink they're probably more likely to look at the fact that the sort of services that are in place to deal with vulnerable and sometimes dangerous people (social care, mental health support, police) are chronically underfunded. That's true whether the person in question is a British citizen or an illegal immigrant.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
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Not seen this reported. If he has history, shame this wasn't picked up earlier.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
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GB News apparently the farage bloke !Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:56 pmNot seen this reported. If he has history, shame this wasn't picked up earlier.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
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Such events, especially the student deaths, hit near to home – Nottingham was one of the potential destination unis we visited for my son (who ultimately went to Lincoln, he completed degree last summer). Know the city fairly well and was up there only last month and in Milton Street too where the van injuries were caused. Just feel sick for the people & families impacted.
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It’s not a tragedy, it’s an atrocity.OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:24 pmYour attempt to blame where someone was born because it wasn’t here doesn’t wash with me and completely minimises the tragedy that’s occurred here.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:09 pmMy children’s schoolmates went to Nottingham and I personally find this atrocity very hard to bear. So your attempts to blame others for what this man has done doesn’t wash with me.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:34 pm
Think they're probably more likely to look at the fact that the sort of services that are in place to deal with vulnerable and sometimes dangerous people (social care, mental health support, police) are chronically underfunded. That's true whether the person in question is a British citizen or an illegal immigrant.
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You’re missing the pointContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:14 amIt’s not a tragedy, it’s an atrocity.OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:24 pmYour attempt to blame where someone was born because it wasn’t here doesn’t wash with me and completely minimises the tragedy that’s occurred here.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:09 pm
My children’s schoolmates went to Nottingham and I personally find this atrocity very hard to bear. So your attempts to blame others for what this man has done doesn’t wash with me.
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No, you are. It’s sad and worrying that our society is becoming so much more dangerous and I fear that events like this are overly sanitised for fear of causing offence to do-gooders instead of appreciating the effect on victims.
Making excuses for mass murder is missing the point actually
Making excuses for mass murder is missing the point actually
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Who is making excuses? Holding the guy who did it responsible is not incompatible with holding the defunding of services as also partly responsible. You are looking for an argument that no-one is making by creating a left wing strawman.
Being aware of what drives awful stuff like this is how you reduce its likelihood of occuring again in the future, would be really weird and counterproductive if we didn't ask questions of the context in which it happened.
Being aware of what drives awful stuff like this is how you reduce its likelihood of occuring again in the future, would be really weird and counterproductive if we didn't ask questions of the context in which it happened.
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ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:14 amIt’s not a tragedy, it’s an atrocity.OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:24 pmYour attempt to blame where someone was born because it wasn’t here doesn’t wash with me and completely minimises the tragedy that’s occurred here.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:09 pm
My children’s schoolmates went to Nottingham and I personally find this atrocity very hard to bear. So your attempts to blame others for what this man has done doesn’t wash with me.
Something can be a tragedy and an atrocity
i am quite sure to the family and friends of the deceased, it is a tragedy to have lost a loved one.
Things are rarely black and white (apart from a Newcastle home shirt) and there is not usually a single cause for anything happening
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Precisely. "I'm worried that our society is becoming much more dangerous...but ain't really interested in what's helping make it that way and not so worried as to be concerned about how, with greater understanding of this we can maybe stop similar events (other than, Certain Brown Guys Bad)"Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:08 am Who is making excuses? Holding the guy who did it responsible is not incompatible with holding the defunding of services as also partly responsible. You are looking for an argument that no-one is making by creating a left wing strawman.
Being aware of what drives awful stuff like this is how you reduce its likelihood of occuring again in the future, would be really weird and counterproductive if we didn't ask questions of the context in which it happened.
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I thought media were reporting he was here legally and had been since his Teens.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
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Fred in his yoof actually looked like a Left Wing Straw man with his Red Hair & Duffle Coat!Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:08 am Who is making excuses? Holding the guy who did it responsible is not incompatible with holding the defunding of services as also partly responsible. You are looking for an argument that no-one is making by creating a left wing strawman.
Being aware of what drives awful stuff like this is how you reduce its likelihood of occuring again in the future, would be really weird and counterproductive if we didn't ask questions of the context in which it happened.
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A West African migrant accused of the murders of three people in Nottingham yesterday is said to be refusing to answer questions from police - as he was described as having a history of petty drug dealing and mental health problems.
The 31-year-old, who is believed to have arrived in the country as a teenager and is not thought to be a refugee, is being questioned over the deaths of two students and a man in his 50s - as well as the injuring of three others.
He was known to police but does not have a criminal record, according to sources. The man, who has settled status, is believed to have lived in the UK for over a decade and was described by neighbours as a 'very quiet guy', the Telegraph reported.
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Except he's not illegal and he's not undocumented.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:41 pm Illegal undocumented West African immigrant with a history of violence
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Wonder if you kicked up as much fuss when the incel in Plymouth killed people
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The brown guys are terrorsism related. This was a black guy, allegedly, so that makes it gang or drug related.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:11 amPrecisely. "I'm worried that our society is becoming much more dangerous...but ain't really interested in what's helping make it that way and not so worried as to be concerned about how, with greater understanding of this we can maybe stop similar events (other than, Certain Brown Guys Bad)"Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:08 am Who is making excuses? Holding the guy who did it responsible is not incompatible with holding the defunding of services as also partly responsible. You are looking for an argument that no-one is making by creating a left wing strawman.
Being aware of what drives awful stuff like this is how you reduce its likelihood of occuring again in the future, would be really weird and counterproductive if we didn't ask questions of the context in which it happened.
(For completeness, any white guys responsible for these atrocities are mental health related).
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Never had a duffel coat but the rest is right.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:27 amMistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:08 am Who is making excuses? Holding the guy who did it responsible is not incompatible with holding the defunding of services as also partly responsible. You are looking for an argument that no-one is making by creating a left wing strawman.
Being aware of what drives awful stuff like this is how you reduce its likelihood of occuring again in the future, would be really weird and counterproductive if we didn't ask questions of the context in which it happened.
Fred in his yoof actually looked like a Left Wing Straw man with his Red Hair & Duffle Coat!
Born to an immigrant family and married another immigrant.
I accept that yesterdays murders upset my usual calm.
The facts about the perpetrator are not fully established but I do seriously worry about immigration and its effect upon the fabric of our society. 19 year olds being murdered should always be shocking - but todays mentality seems skewed towards understanding the killer more than the victim.