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Posted: **Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:56 pm**

These irreversible lifting of restrictions are beginning to sound like they may be very reversible.

CON +2?

Posted: **Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:47 pm**

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:06 pm Eagley

Posted: **Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:14 pm**

Seeing people out today still wearing masks as chin straps was quite amusing.

Enjoy the summer, I reckon lockdown by early October when a completely unforeseeable vaccine beating variant is on the rampage.

Posted: **Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:55 pm**

George wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:52 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:05 am
BIGRON wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:34 am I for one will continue to wear my protective mask on public transport and when I'm in shops .
Me too, Ron.

But the numpty standing directly behind you in the queue won’t be.
The same people that didn’t wear a mask before , who didn’t take any notice of lockdown, and who probably didnt watch the news , will continue to not do the same. We are not preaching to them. The responsibility now lies with responsible people behaving responsibly. And they will continue to do so.
You need to trust in the majority and ignore the minority.

But back then, you were well within your rights to turn around and state your case. You can’t anymore.

Like I said, you can behave as responsibly as you want but it’s pointless when all those around you are not.

Posted: **Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:29 pm**

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:14 pm Seeing people out today still wearing masks as chin straps was quite amusing.

Enjoy the summer, I reckon lockdown by early October when a completely unforeseeable vaccine beating variant is on the rampage.

Why? I wear mine like that on the street and pull it up when I go into a shop/transport.

Posted: **Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:14 am**

I meant in shops/transport.

Posted: **Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:24 pm**

Tesco's at Baker's Arms this morning had as a guesstimate about 70-80% people wearing masks. That's about the same as I've seen before, perhaps slightly less.

The people not wearing them were mostly men 20-40yrs, IMO the same demographic that were also most likely not to comply before "Freedom Day".

Posted: **Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:39 pm**

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:55 pm
George wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:52 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:05 am

Me too, Ron.

But the numpty standing directly behind you in the queue won’t be.
The same people that didn’t wear a mask before , who didn’t take any notice of lockdown, and who probably didnt watch the news , will continue to not do the same. We are not preaching to them. The responsibility now lies with responsible people behaving responsibly. And they will continue to do so.
You need to trust in the majority and ignore the minority.
But back then, you were well within your rights to turn around and state your case. You can’t anymore.

Like I said, you can behave as responsibly as you want but it’s pointless when all those around you are not.

It's never pointless, just not as effective overall if others aren't.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:29 pm**

Official cases seem to be falling since they hit 50k/day, though the cases from the ONS survey are still rising.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:25 pm**

You have to wonder if less tests are now being performed/recorded in the same way. As we've now unlocked the door and let rip the virus it seems highly unlikely that new infections would decrease. Much more likely would be a lower testing rate which would obscure the effect of reducing restrictions. On the flip side, beds being occupied in critical care are steadily climbing and that seems a much better barometer to me.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:38 pm**

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:25 pm You have to wonder if less tests are now being performed/recorded in the same way. As we've now unlocked the door and let rip the virus it seems highly unlikely that new infections would decrease. Much more likely would be a lower testing rate which would obscure the effect of reducing restrictions. On the flip side, beds being occupied in critical care are steadily climbing and that seems a much better barometer to me.

Yep, tests are down slightly. Also, the impact of the ending of all restrictions won't filter through for a week or two.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:12 pm**

Don’t you just love boarders turning positive news into negative news. It’s too early to say that numbers are stabilising or , indeed , decreasing, but it’s still great news. Stop scaremongering

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:13 pm**

George wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:12 pm Don’t you just love boarders turning positive news into negative news. It’s too early to say that numbers are stabilising or , indeed , decreasing, but it’s still great news. Stop scaremongering

I haven't seen any news saying this is positive, so not sure what you're on about.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:42 am**

So a drop in infection numbers for the last 3 days is not positive

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:33 am**

Get to f***.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:45 am**

I think it is only advisory not a legal requirement.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:38 am**

Does that include essential workers in hospitals care homes and schools who could be infected and spreading it to everyone they are in contact with?

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:51 am**

George wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:42 am So a drop in infection numbers for the last 3 days is not positive

Not when test numbers are down, community cases are still rising and we've yet to see the impact of opening up.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:54 am**

George wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:42 am So a drop in infection numbers for the last 3 days is not positive

The infection numbers have gone down because there are less tests being done. It's not positive news at all.

Meanwhile, beds used in critical care are increasing rapidly i.e. the NHS is getting busier. That's definitely not positive news.

Now I know you know all this so stop WUMming - you're losing your touch.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:58 am**

Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:33 am Get to f***.

The government were looking to "desensitise" the track and trace app weren't they? Too many "false positives". That seems to have dropped off the radar. Too difficult I guess.

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:30 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:04 am**

Apparently flatulence is being considered as a new way of Covid being passed on.

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:05 am**

Story of O wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:04 am Apparently flatulence is being considered as a new way of Covid being passed on.

Load of sh*t

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:09 am**

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:05 am
Story of O wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:04 am Apparently flatulence is being considered as a new way of Covid being passed on.
Load of sh*t

You must be doing it wrong

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:10 pm**

Cases down again

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