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Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:26 pm
by tuffers#1
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:25 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:23 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:15 pm
If we do finish in the bottom half then he will be gone.
If is a word you are using .
Obviously not vonfident enough to
Predict Ross failing .
Where as i am Confident enough to
Say we will finish top half
Id take it a step up & say top 10.
Personally i say we vwill be involved
Involve with automatic promotion or play offs minimum.
Ill do my laughing in May !
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:52 pm
by Oiram
Managed to listen to the show Andy, with my old West Ham fan and all round avid footy buff . We both thoroughly enjoyed it with a bottle of ale and some cheese sandwiches.
Whilst it was slightly disappointing that some of the more pertinent were not asked, it was a good all round interview, entertaining and enjoyable.
Appreciating as always and gratitude to you and your colleagues.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:24 pm
by tuffers#1
Oiram wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:52 pm
Managed to listen to the show Andy, with my old West Ham fan and all round avid footy buff . We both thoroughly enjoyed it with a bottle of ale and some cheese sandwiches.
Whilst it was slightly disappointing that some of the more pertinent were not asked, it was a good all round interview, entertaining and enjoyable.
Appreciating as always and gratitude to you and your colleagues.
Shame 1,200 twitters made a couple of boo boos !
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:10 pm
by DuvB
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:29 am
Type high wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:45 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:41 pm
Do you really think after a long career in football he is giving away secrets? Naive. Sad.
Ross Embleton, long career in football?. What club did he play for, where, when, what position.
@ Type high,
On the above question, this is all I can find
''Playing career, Embleton played four games in all competitions for Bedford during the 2016–17 season''
Ross Embleton
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Embleton
Russell Slade didnt have a career in first team league football
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:25 pm
by Dohnut
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:41 pm
Do you really think after a long career in football he is giving away secrets? Naive. Sad.
Naive. I think that is exactly what he is.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:38 pm
by Long slender neck
Has a lot more football experience than you
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:52 pm
by Still wrong
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:38 pm
Has a lot more football experience than you
Not a lot of experience in life though.
To say the bloke is naive is a understatement.
I still can’t believe it, to think a rival is going to give you any useful information is ridiculous.
This has nothing to do with football knowledge.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:55 pm
by Dohnut
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:38 pm
Has a lot more football experience than you
And a lot less management experience.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:03 pm
by Story of O
All of us want Embleton to do well as it means the club is doing well. But the football he is inflicting on us is truly dire and that is why he gets stick on social media.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:11 pm
by Still wrong
Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:03 pm
All of us want Embleton to do well as it means the club is doing well. But the football he is inflicting on us is truly dire and that is why he gets stick on social media.
He seems a decent bloke but l don’t think he has a cat in hells chance of being successful.
He just doesn’t come across as a leader.
The club have got to give him until the end of the season and then make their mind up.
I see no point in getting rid of him and appoint another novice from within.
I would bring back Russell Slade and let him complete unfinished business.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:18 pm
by Dohnut
Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:03 pm
All of us want Embleton to do well as it means the club is doing well. But the football he is inflicting on us is truly dire and that is why he gets stick on social media.
That is the truth. I would love for him to be successful both in terms of league position and in the quality of football we play. I personally don’t care who our manager is so long as we get decent football ending in decent results. I don’t expect miracles.
Our effectiveness in possession when measured by chances on and off target is only worsened by Southend and Grimsby. Thank goodness for DJ who has been able to convert those few chances into goals.
Tedious, predictable, boring football. It will drive people away. Some of us with Orient in our blood will stick it out. Bringing in new support? Forget it.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:27 pm
by Type high
I agree with you so much, such an opportunity lost, seems like organizers deliberately watering down questions being put into show, to avoid confrontation
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:55 pm
by Long slender neck
Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:55 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:38 pm
Has a lot more football experience than you
And a lot less management experience.
how many league clubs have you managed?
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:12 pm
by Dohnut
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:55 pm
Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:55 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:38 pm
Has a lot more football experience than you
And a lot less management experience.
how many league clubs have you managed?
How much do you know about management?
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:27 pm
by Still wrong
Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:18 pm
Story of O wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:03 pm
All of us want Embleton to do well as it means the club is doing well. But the football he is inflicting on us is truly dire and that is why he gets stick on social media.
That is the truth. I would love for him to be successful both in terms of league position and in the quality of football we play. I personally don’t care who our manager is so long as we get decent football ending in decent results. I don’t expect miracles.
Our effectiveness in possession when measured by chances on and off target is only worsened by Southend and Grimsby. Thank goodness for DJ who has been able to convert those few chances into goals.
Tedious, predictable, boring football. It will drive people away. Some of us with Orient in our blood will stick it out. Bringing in new support? Forget it.
If the owners think a floating supporter will fork out £22 to watch the boring rubbish that has been served up lately, they are very much mistaken.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:08 pm
by tuffers#1
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:52 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:38 pm
Has a lot more football experience than you
Not a lot of experience in life though.
To say the bloke is naive is a understatement.
I still can’t believe it, to think a rival is going to give you any useful information is ridiculous.
This has nothing to do with football knowledge.
Even Your Hero Graeme Taylor was average at Lincoln in his 1st 2 seasons .
Missed promotion in his 3rd .
Yet you only talk about an experienced manager at Watford
Showing everyone Video Clips about it .
Compare Like for Like !
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:27 pm
by Still wrong
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:08 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:52 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:38 pm
Has a lot more football experience than you
Not a lot of experience in life though.
To say the bloke is naive is a understatement.
I still can’t believe it, to think a rival is going to give you any useful information is ridiculous.
This has nothing to do with football knowledge.
Even Your Hero Graeme Taylor was average at Lincoln in his 1st 2 seasons .
Missed promotion in his 3rd .
Yet you only talk about an experienced manager at Watford
Showing everyone Video Clips about it .
Compare Like for Like !
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news ... new-880019
Like for like
111 goals in 46 matches and winning the title with record points.
I can’t see any evidence Ross will achieve that
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:35 pm
by Still wrong
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:27 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:08 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:52 pm
Not a lot of experience in life though.
To say the bloke is naive is a understatement.
I still can’t believe it, to think a rival is going to give you any useful information is ridiculous.
This has nothing to do with football knowledge.
Even Your Hero Graeme Taylor was average at Lincoln in his 1st 2 seasons .
Missed promotion in his 3rd .
Yet you only talk about an experienced manager at Watford
Showing everyone Video Clips about it .
Compare Like for Like !
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news ... new-880019
Like for like
111 goals in 46 matches and winning the title with record points.
I can’t see any evidence Ross will achieve that
And Taylor was a leader, our bloke ain’t.
He seems clueless on setting a team up to attack and then says the players are not up to playing 4 4 2. What nonsense.
He has had 18 months to set the team up as he wants and has constantly played players out of position.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:16 am
by Dohnut
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:35 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:27 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:08 pm
Even Your Hero Graeme Taylor was average at Lincoln in his 1st 2 seasons .
Missed promotion in his 3rd .
Yet you only talk about an experienced manager at Watford
Showing everyone Video Clips about it .
Compare Like for Like !
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news ... new-880019
Like for like
111 goals in 46 matches and winning the title with record points.
I can’t see any evidence Ross will achieve that
And Taylor was a leader, our bloke ain’t.
He seems clueless on setting a team up to attack and then says the players are not up to playing 4 4 2. What nonsense.
He has had 18 months to set the team up as he wants and has constantly played players out of position.
In years to come people will be buying the Ross autobiography. Can’t think of an appropriate title. “EngROSSing football”. Or “under the cROSSbar”. It will be the bible used by rookie managers learning their craft.
order it now.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:41 am
by tuffers#1
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:27 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:08 pm
Even Your Hero Graeme Taylor was average at Lincoln in his 1st 2 seasons .
Missed promotion in his 3rd .
Yet you only talk about an experienced manager at Watford
Showing everyone Video Clips about it .
Compare Like for Like !
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news ... new-880019
Like for like
111 goals in 46 matches and winning the title with record points.
I can’t see any evidence Ross will achieve that
Taylor first two seasons as a Manager
1972/73 season
Lincoln City pl 46 w 12 d 7 L4 f38 a27 w4 d9 L10 f26 a30 pts 48
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972%E2 ... all_League
1973/74 season
Lincoln City pl46 w10 d8 L5 f40 a30 w6 d4 L13 f23 a37 pts 44
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973%E2 ... all_League
Ross Embleton first two Seasons as a Manager
2019/20 season
Leyton Orient pl 36 w 10 d12 L14 f47 a55 pts42
2020/21 Season
Leyton Orient pl 27 w11 d5 w11 f34 a29 pts 38
That is LIKE FOR LIKE STILLWRONG ALWAYS WRONG !
Not his 4th season in as a Manager & not suffering a Pandemic or the
death of his friend colleague boss etc etc .
You really are a daft one arent you fella .
Once again I show you up !!
Ross' 2nd season already looks better than Taylors 2nd
5 more wins from 19 games will mean he equals wins games with Taylor
in his 2nd season even after a disrupted Pandemic season
6 more wins from 19 games means he would have bettered
Either of Taylors first two seasons as a manager again
During a pandemic with disruption !
Facts & figures never lie
Shows all the signs of a leader to me .
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:47 am
by Still wrong
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:41 am
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:27 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:08 pm
Even Your Hero Graeme Taylor was average at Lincoln in his 1st 2 seasons .
Missed promotion in his 3rd .
Yet you only talk about an experienced manager at Watford
Showing everyone Video Clips about it .
Compare Like for Like !
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news ... new-880019
Like for like
111 goals in 46 matches and winning the title with record points.
I can’t see any evidence Ross will achieve that
Taylor first two seasons as a Manager
1972/73 season
Lincoln City pl 46 w 12 d 7 L4 f38 a27 w4 d9 L10 f26 a30 pts 48
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972%E2 ... all_League
1973/74 season
Lincoln City pl46 w10 d8 L5 f40 a30 w6 d4 L13 f23 a37 pts 44
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973%E2 ... all_League
Ross Embleton first two Seasons as a Manager
2019/20 season
Leyton Orient pl 36 w 10 d12 L14 f47 a55 pts42
2020/21 Season
Leyton Orient pl 27 w11 d5 w11 f34 a29 pts 38
That is LIKE FOR LIKE STILLWRONG ALWAYS WRONG !
Not his 4th season in as a Manager & not suffering a Pandemic or the
death of his friend colleague boss etc etc .
You really are a daft one arent you fella .
Once again I show you up !!
Ross' 2nd season already looks better than Taylors 2nd
5 more wins from 19 games will mean he equals wins games with Taylor
in his 2nd season even after a disrupted Pandemic season
6 more wins from 19 games means he would have bettered
Either of Taylors first two seasons as a manager again
During a pandemic with disruption !
Facts & figures never lie
Shows all the signs of a leader to me .
My god this bloke is ........
Taylor took over in dec 72.
That is half a season.
Clearly Taylor was showing all the attributes in becoming a successful manager.
Do you honestly think that this bloke will even win one promotion?
He doesn’t inspire, he is unbelievably stupid to not only ask rival managers what our strengths are but even more daft to publicly admit it.
For him to apparently resign from the job first time around should have ruled him out again, certainly in the near future.
It has all the signs to me of a nice bloke who has been over promoted, we have all seen it in every workplace and what happens is the company suffers or disappears altogether if nothings done.
I expect us to finish in the bottom half and then the owners will have a decision to make.
Of course Ross might prove me wrong and we may finish in the top 10. If he does this then he deserves another go next season.
I have a sneaky feeling we are going to struggle to score goals and there will be a lot of 1-0/2-0 defeats coming along with a few boring 0-0 draws.
All the excuses will come out from Tuffers, Johnson not fit, Still getting over JE, COVID-19.
All the things except one which every other club has to go through and a lot are on a smaller budget than ours.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:03 am
by Still wrong
My take on football is this........
If a team goes out and plays progressive and attacking football and loses, well there is some merit in that. We can see light at the end of the tunnel.
Losing without playing a progressive type of game or even enjoying it is a total waste of time .
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:10 am
by tuffers#1
Still wrong wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:47 am
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:41 am
Taylor first two seasons as a Manager
1972/73 season
Lincoln City pl 46 w 12 d 7 L4 f38 a27 w4 d9 L10 f26 a30 pts 48
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972%E2 ... all_League
1973/74 season
Lincoln City pl46 w10 d8 L5 f40 a30 w6 d4 L13 f23 a37 pts 44
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973%E2 ... all_League
Ross Embleton first two Seasons as a Manager
2019/20 season
Leyton Orient pl 36 w 10 d12 L14 f47 a55 pts42
2020/21 Season
Leyton Orient pl 27 w11 d5 w11 f34 a29 pts 38
That is LIKE FOR LIKE STILLWRONG ALWAYS WRONG !
Not his 4th season in as a Manager & not suffering a Pandemic or the
death of his friend colleague boss etc etc .
You really are a daft one arent you fella .
Once again I show you up !!
Ross' 2nd season already looks better than Taylors 2nd
5 more wins from 19 games will mean he equals wins games with Taylor
in his 2nd season even after a disrupted Pandemic season
6 more wins from 19 games means he would have bettered
Either of Taylors first two seasons as a manager again
During a pandemic with disruption !
Facts & figures never lie
Shows all the signs of a leader to me .
My god this bloke is ........
Taylor took over in dec 72.
That is half a season.
Clearly Taylor was showing all the attributes in becoming a successful manager.
Do you honestly think that this bloke will even win one promotion?
He doesn’t inspire, he is unbelievably stupid to not only ask rival managers what our strengths are but even more daft to publicly admit it.
For him to apparently resign from the job first time around should have ruled him out again, certainly in the near future.
It has all the signs to me of a nice bloke who has been over promoted, we have all seen it in every workplace and what happens is the company suffers or disappears altogether if nothings done.
I expect us to finish in the bottom half and then the owners will have a decision to make.
Of course Ross might prove me wrong and we may finish in the top 10. If he does this then he deserves another go next season.
I have a sneaky feeling we are going to struggle to score goals and there will be a lot of 1-0/2-0 defeats coming along with a few boring 0-0 draws.
All the excuses will come out from Tuffers, Johnson not fit, Still getting over JE, COVID-19.
All the things except one which every other club has to go through and a lot are on a smaller budget than ours.
Ross was Interim boss for half a season after the Loss of JE
Then Fletcher has 3 defeats & a draw in that record .
6 wins from 19 games Ross will better Taylors 2nd year .
Regardless of whatever claptrap you have spouted about someone &
The intelligence they posses or not .
You are just another HATER HATING !
&
As always STILL WRONG
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:24 am
by o-no
I think it's valid to challenge Ross's record without being called a HATER - that's the very definition of cancel culture.
Is anyone saying that the footy we've been served up recently has been an engrossing watch, because I don't think they are, and that's down to the way Ross has set the team up.
We can compare Ross's record against other rookie managers, and who knows, the penny may drop and Ross may go on to have a stellar career, but I just don't see it myself. Maybe Ross was no worse than Taylor at this stage, but does that tell us anything really? We have to look for signs of Ross's potential to be a great manager in what he lays before us. I'm not seeing it. I'm looking really hard for it, but sadly, I don't think it's there.
Re: Recording of The Orient Hour Feb 17 with Ross Embleton
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:27 am
by Thor
I’m listening now and he says “I would not personally play 4-3-3 if it were my choice” err it is your choice. He goes on to say we don’t have the players to play any other way, err your the head coach and we all know we have a transfer committee and you are a part of it, why aren’t the other boys and girls listening to you when you must therefore be suggesting we need a different type of player so we can play with two up top which is your preferred way of playing.
The man is talking bollocks, sorry.
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