Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Are we giving up on Obiero stepping up then?

Old Bloke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:42 pm Are we giving up on Obiero stepping up then?

No, I don't think so . It's just that I thought people wanted us to sign two centre midfielders . However if Richie feels we're now covered for midfield then that's OK by me . I'm hoping now we sign another striker to replace Pigott .

Messaged my mate who is a Toffee’s season ticket holder and mad Everton fan, and this was his response.

I’m absolutely gutted mate, he’s a big blue and I hoped he would make it with us, really surprised we have let Lewis go.
Orient have signed a top player.
He will be a big player for Orient in L1 and will do very well!

Spoke to a couple of mates earlier who are Everton fans, the general thought was they thought Everton would keep him.

From what I have read and been told this is a good sighning for our level, there is no reason why he can't be equally as good if not better than El Miz.

Onwards and upwards.

Dan Agyei scored 4 tonight at St Albans, but we still need an experienced No.9 goalscorer, can’t rely on Agyei, he will still need to be managed.

Very happy with this. Young and hungry with L1 experience. Bodes well.

Welcome Lewis Warrington
A very good signing and I’m very happy.

Although, it won’t please everyone, no doubt the usual suspects will be posting usual negative nonsense.
He’s no El Miz, it’s a poor signing, blah blah blah

21 full season of l1 experience, great signing

Looks like a decent signing

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:20 pm Messaged my mate who is a Toffee’s season ticket holder and mad Everton fan, and this was his response.

I’m absolutely gutted mate, he’s a big blue and I hoped he would make it with us, really surprised we have let Lewis go.
Orient have signed a top player.
He will be a big player for Orient in L1 and will do very well!

This has Paul Smyth two year loan vibes about it. I really want to know what the point is of not signing promising young players on longer contracts, that’s how Peterborough leverage such decent transfer fees.

Ron Waffle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:30 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:37 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:21 pm Fact that he got a loan to a championship club off the back of a season in league 1 bodes well, even if he didn't play at Plymouth.

That's mizouni's replacement sorted. Just the keeper, 2 full backs and a new no. 10 to go.

I thought the feeling on here was that we needed two CM. We've signed one so still need another one .

As if “the feeling on here” had any relevance to anything what so ever. It’s a dozen people regurgitating the same tripe over and over again in an increasingly unhinged manner.

Half dozen.

Mylo Xyloto wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:43 pm

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:20 pm Messaged my mate who is a Toffee’s season ticket holder and mad Everton fan, and this was his response.

I’m absolutely gutted mate, he’s a big blue and I hoped he would make it with us, really surprised we have let Lewis go.
Orient have signed a top player.
He will be a big player for Orient in L1 and will do very well!

This has Paul Smyth two year loan vibes about it. I really want to know what the point is of not signing promising young players on longer contracts, that’s how Peterborough leverage such decent transfer fees.

What about if he turns out to be sh*t and we’ve got him stuck here until 2027?

Why are people obsessed with getting a transfer fee for a player we haven’t paid for?

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:29 pm

Mylo Xyloto wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:43 pm

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:20 pm Messaged my mate who is a Toffee’s season ticket holder and mad Everton fan, and this was his response.

I’m absolutely gutted mate, he’s a big blue and I hoped he would make it with us, really surprised we have let Lewis go.
Orient have signed a top player.
He will be a big player for Orient in L1 and will do very well!

This has Paul Smyth two year loan vibes about it. I really want to know what the point is of not signing promising young players on longer contracts, that’s how Peterborough leverage such decent transfer fees.

What about if he turns out to be sh*t and we’ve got him stuck here until 2027?

You must be able to set up these contracts with options in the clubs favour. Nigel Travis alluded to deliberately setting contracts up this way.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:30 pm Why are people obsessed with getting a transfer fee for a player we haven’t paid for?

For a senior pro I think that's a fair cop, get them free and let them go free after 2 years.

With young players it's a bit different imo, they're not the finished product and the club pays for that in lower performance levels until they develop. At that point you've invested time and effort getting that player to being an asset so you want something to show for it financially if they're not staying to deliver on the pitch.

Travis and Ling have both talked about the 2+1 (third year option in our favour) contract method so wonder if this one has been signed on that basis?

But the club benefits from paying a lower fee for that lower performance level.

I don’t disagree with this approach and business model. But I don’t see why fans are getting so het up about it. Whatever money is brought in from selling on players after developing them, is only going to the investors. We’re not going to see a corresponding increase in the playing budget.

If a player comes in for 2 years and develops to the extent that a team from the division above will want them, they’re going to go and we have the same rebuilding task. The only difference if we get a transfer fee is we don’t need as much investment from the next round of investors.

Gloucester-O wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:35 pm Spoke to a couple of mates earlier who are Everton fans, the general thought was they thought Everton would keep him.

From what I have read and been told this is a good sighning for our level, there is no reason why he can't be equally as good if not better than El Miz.

Onwards and upwards.

Yes , my Everton supporting mate at work also said he was a good player . It does seem like Warrington is El-Mizouni's replacement . I'm happy with this signing and think he'll do well . Welcome to Orient Lewis .

Old Bloke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:42 pm Are we giving up on Obiero stepping up then?

He’s 19, he needs to be managed properly.

Seen his interview. Someone get the kid some pie and mash

Looks good player

faith1234 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm Looks good player

Yes he does, he’s going to be a great signing for the club.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:02 pm I don’t disagree with this approach and business model. But I don’t see why fans are getting so het up about it. Whatever money is brought in from selling on players after developing them, is only going to the investors. We’re not going to see a corresponding increase in the playing budget.

The last player we sold for decent money was Kyprianou. Not sure the investors took their profit, it went straight back out on Moncur. You won't see a similar type of investment to that made on Moncur unless we get get big money in. That's why fans get het up when good assets go for nothing.

We paid £300k for Moncur?

What a total waste of money.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:35 pm We paid £300k for Moncur?

What a total waste of money.

Depends doesn’t it. Recency bias says it was a waste but our goal was to get promotion, and he undeniably played a role in that. And achieving that probably netted the club more than 300k

Hope I’m wrong but I have a sneaking suspicion that RW now sees Warrington as a latter day Ethan Coleman and he’ll be destined for a short stay at the club.