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Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 1:28 pm
by BoniO
I don’t think the owners are desperate for back to back promotions. NT’s interview was all about overcoming the challenges we face, financially and ground capacity. We’ll be aiming for a solid season where we do OK but learn a lot whilst we tackle the ground and financial concerns. I still think we could finish top half though, dependant on signings of course.
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 1:36 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Reflecto wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 1:00 pm
We do have an exceptionally good manager - and if I was NT/KT/ML - I'd go for it whilst he is onboard. What are the worst-case scenario(s) - a) we make the playoffs and fail to win them or b) if we go up and then we have a season of struggle!
That’s worst case for players/fans but the reality is worst case for investors is they lose a lot of money. Won’t happen. Saying that, Richie has a budget agreed in his contract by the sounds of it so it will go up. But can’t imagine Richie hanging around for long if 12th place is our ambition
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 2:30 pm
by BIGRON
Anything but relegation will do me fine
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 2:50 pm
by OyinbO
OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 1:36 pm
Reflecto wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 1:00 pm
We do have an exceptionally good manager - and if I was NT/KT/ML - I'd go for it whilst he is onboard. What are the worst-case scenario(s) - a) we make the playoffs and fail to win them or b) if we go up and then we have a season of struggle!
That’s worst case for players/fans but the reality is worst case for investors is they lose a lot of money. Won’t happen. Saying that, Richie has a budget agreed in his contract by the sounds of it so it will go up. But can’t imagine Richie hanging around for long if 12th place is our ambition
the plans for a new ground have accelerated this year when they clocked they might soon be one good season away from spectacular operating losses (or relegation)
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 2:58 pm
by Max Fowler
Wally Banter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 11:04 am
Let's calibrate everyone's expectations for our first season back in League 1.
Just glancing at the teams comprising League 1 next year, I've got to assume that we're firmly bottom half in terms of budget size. Equally I don't see many financial minnows whom we should automatically expect to outperform. For me, it would be an acceptable (though obviously not very enjoyable) outcome if we simply steered clear of relegation troubles.
I suppose that would only feel acceptable,though, if we could see some encouraging signs for the next season - e.g. a good core group of contracted players, a happy Wellens, a clear philosophy for how we'll play, better players signing in each transfer window.
Tough one. And interesting, too.
Ling has only ever bought success by outbuying the competitors - spending a big budget on players from the division above to get us up. He did it in 2006, 2019 and last season. I'm not sure Wellens has ever had to work with a limited budget either.
What's Slade doing these days?
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 3:00 pm
by Max Fowler
BoniO wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 1:28 pm
I don’t think the owners are desperate for back to back promotions. NT’s interview was all about overcoming the challenges we face, financially and ground capacity. We’ll be aiming for a solid season where we do OK but learn a lot whilst we tackle the ground and financial concerns. I still think we could finish top half though, dependant on signings of course.
Our first choice team is easily good enough for a top half finish.
Whether we can 1) keep that together and 2) improve the weaker areas on a bottom half budget is going to be a challenge.
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 3:58 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
OyinbO wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 2:50 pm
OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 1:36 pm
Reflecto wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 1:00 pm
We do have an exceptionally good manager - and if I was NT/KT/ML - I'd go for it whilst he is onboard. What are the worst-case scenario(s) - a) we make the playoffs and fail to win them or b) if we go up and then we have a season of struggle!
That’s worst case for players/fans but the reality is worst case for investors is they lose a lot of money. Won’t happen. Saying that, Richie has a budget agreed in his contract by the sounds of it so it will go up. But can’t imagine Richie hanging around for long if 12th place is our ambition
the plans for a new ground have accelerated this year when they clocked they might soon be one good season away from spectacular operating losses (or relegation)
I mean, that opens up a very interesting question:
Would T&T actually like us to go up next season? They've already said that as it stands they can't really fund a championship club and would probably hand the club over to someone else. The reality of going up might be financially disastrous for us short term...
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:00 pm
by faith1234
I would like to say playoffs please
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:07 pm
by spen666
Too many on here prepared to accept mediocrity.
Being Champios next season isn't good enough.
They need to be Champions by Good Friday at the very latest
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:44 pm
by Eggski
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:58 pm
by OyinbO
OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:58 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 2:50 pm
OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 1:36 pm
That’s worst case for players/fans but the reality is worst case for investors is they lose a lot of money. Won’t happen. Saying that, Richie has a budget agreed in his contract by the sounds of it so it will go up. But can’t imagine Richie hanging around for long if 12th place is our ambition
the plans for a new ground have accelerated this year when they clocked they might soon be one good season away from spectacular operating losses (or relegation)
I mean, that opens up a very interesting question:
Would T&T actually like us to go up next season? They've already said that as it stands they can't really fund a championship club and would probably hand the club over to someone else. The reality of going up might be financially disastrous for us short term...
I don't think they went quite that far, but they are indicating that they need more bunce if the Club is to go to the next level, in both senses of the word. Doesn't matter who comes in though, running a Championship budget on crowds of sub 9k would be extraordinarily expensive. It ain't sustainable without a new stadium.
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 5:06 pm
by stage3
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 5:28 pm
by gshaw
14th or above with no relegation scares. Given there's a mini rebuild to do this summer so get a nice comfortable season with two strong transfer windows to get ready for a push the season after.
Also FA Cup run of 3rd round or better please.
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 6:57 pm
by Orient_Man_And_Boy
9th, with a great FA Cup story to boot! 'bout time we beat the Arsenal.
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 7:09 pm
by banqo
Orient_Man_And_Boy wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 6:57 pm
9th, with a great FA Cup story to boot! 'bout time we beat the Arsenal.
I'd rather beat Spurs, everyone else seems to!
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 8:28 pm
by Max B Gold
OyinbO wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:58 pm
OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:58 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 2:50 pm
the plans for a new ground have accelerated this year when they clocked they might soon be one good season away from spectacular operating losses (or relegation)
I mean, that opens up a very interesting question:
Would T&T actually like us to go up next season? They've already said that as it stands they can't really fund a championship club and would probably hand the club over to someone else. The reality of going up might be financially disastrous for us short term...
I don't think they went quite that far, but they are indicating that they need more bunce if the Club is to go to the next level, in both senses of the word. Doesn't matter who comes in though, running a Championship budget on crowds of sub 9k would be extraordinarily expensive. It ain't sustainable without a new stadium.
Ate we definitely ruling out a ground share with West Ham?
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 10:04 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 8:28 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:58 pm
OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:58 pm
I mean, that opens up a very interesting question:
Would T&T actually like us to go up next season? They've already said that as it stands they can't really fund a championship club and would probably hand the club over to someone else. The reality of going up might be financially disastrous for us short term...
I don't think they went quite that far, but they are indicating that they need more bunce if the Club is to go to the next level, in both senses of the word. Doesn't matter who comes in though, running a Championship budget on crowds of sub 9k would be extraordinarily expensive. It ain't sustainable without a new stadium.
Ate we definitely ruling out a ground share with West Ham?
Rather share with Millwall, they hate the Spam as well !
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 2:20 am
by Adz
Anything above the relegation zone will do me. A couple of years consolidation then a promotion push.
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 4:36 pm
by moonwalk19
Dunners wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 12:40 pm
Never mind next season. If we don't win every pre-season friendly I'll be burning my season ticket and posting the ashes back to the owners.
Did you tear up your season ticket last year when we had a terrible pre season
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 4:49 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Adz wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 2:20 am
Anything above the relegation zone will do me. A couple of years consolidation then a promotion push.
Yes , I’d also be happy with that.
Re: Might as well get it out of our systems: what is an acceptable finish next season?
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 5:31 pm
by cymruO
Once we have an all signed up and delivered team I might have a considered prediction. Now's just too early.
16th to 14th i will be over joyed for the 1st season back. 