Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:04 pm

MrB wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:50 am Doom and gloom? I ain’t even started yet!

Me neither. Cannot wait to get to that first home game to start the booing.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:35 pm Does my head in that any comment that doesn't toe the apparent company line of everything is rosy and great is classed as moaning.Its a message board, people have different opinions. Doesn't mean they are right, doesn't mean you are right but finding it increasingly hard to have any sort of meaningful conversation about Orient without being shouted down as wrong or as moaning.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:52 pm I will support Ross because i love this club and have done so for 53 years, but If im honest, i dont think Ross is the right man for the job.

When Justin applied for the job with us, he wanted to bring in his own staff, but was told the job was his, but he had to work with Ross. Ross was very much in the background......Justin was his own man, and did things his way.

if the board had confidence in Ross, they would have named him as Head coach, NOT Interim Head coach. that word, Interim says everything to me.

At some time, the board are going to appoint a new Head coach, but will we be in a relegation fight when they do this?

I agree with a lot of what's been said above

bobo66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:20 am I'm staggered by the amount of doom and gloom on this Board before a ball has even been kicked in anger. I seem to recall there were similar feelings expressed before least season began because of the lack of activity in the transfer market.

I accept we have lost Bonne and Koroma, but would think that we have replaced them with 2 strikers. Of course, whether the replacements will be up to much is still to be seen. We have the same defence, which was so tight last season. The midfield does seem to be lacking a bit, but I thought the same last season.

I suppose a lot of it is because we have lost Edinburgh, bit we should at least give Embleton a chance before we talk about a relegation fight.

I think a lot of it comes from being the Orient. It would be great if we could keep hold of the feelings of euphoria at the close of last season at least until 5:00pm on 3rd August.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:35 pm Does my head in that any comment that doesn't toe the apparent company line of everything is rosy and great is classed as moaning.Its a message board, people have different opinions. Doesn't mean they are right, doesn't mean you are right but finding it increasingly hard to have any sort of meaningful conversation about Orient without being shouted down as wrong or as moaning.

Winchesterfan wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:16 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:35 pm Does my head in that any comment that doesn't toe the apparent company line of everything is rosy and great is classed as moaning.Its a message board, people have different opinions. Doesn't mean they are right, doesn't mean you are right but finding it increasingly hard to have any sort of meaningful conversation about Orient without being shouted down as wrong or as moaning.

Sorry positivity does your head in. Having a meaningful conversation with a doom and gloom merchant is pointless. Yes, you do moan and I think you are wrong but that’s your right , it’s just that after all the highs of last season and then the tragedy that happened to Justin we need to honour the team and his memory. Moaning doesn’t help anyone except, perhaps you and your fellow moaners.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:27 pm I for one an incredibly optimistic for the season ahead. So what if we gave away for a pittance our two best attackers and replaced them with unproven forwards. We can get promotion again, that is for sure. Even with a limited midfield and a reliance on aged players, there is no reason this season can’t be a success.

I am with me old mucker Whingechester on this one - let’s get behind the team and think the best.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:04 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:27 pm I for one an incredibly optimistic for the season ahead. So what if we gave away for a pittance our two best attackers and replaced them with unproven forwards. We can get promotion again, that is for sure. Even with a limited midfield and a reliance on aged players, there is no reason this season can’t be a success.

I am with me old mucker Whingechester on this one - let’s get behind the team and think the best.

You missed out our blinding pace and experienced manager.

bobo66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:20 am I'm staggered by the amount of doom and gloom on this Board before a ball has even been kicked in anger. I seem to recall there were similar feelings expressed before least season began because of the lack of activity in the transfer market.

I accept we have lost Bonne and Koroma, but would think that we have replaced them with 2 strikers. Of course, whether the replacements will be up to much is still to be seen. We have the same defence, which was so tight last season. The midfield does seem to be lacking a bit, but I thought the same last season.

I suppose a lot of it is because we have lost Edinburgh, bit we should at least give Embleton a chance before we talk about a relegation fight.

I think a lot of it comes from being the Orient. It would be great if we could keep hold of the feelings of euphoria at the close of last season at least until 5:00pm on 3rd August.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:12 pm

bobo66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:20 am I'm staggered by the amount of doom and gloom on this Board before a ball has even been kicked in anger. I seem to recall there were similar feelings expressed before least season began because of the lack of activity in the transfer market.

I accept we have lost Bonne and Koroma, but would think that we have replaced them with 2 strikers. Of course, whether the replacements will be up to much is still to be seen. We have the same defence, which was so tight last season. The midfield does seem to be lacking a bit, but I thought the same last season.

I suppose a lot of it is because we have lost Edinburgh, bit we should at least give Embleton a chance before we talk about a relegation fight.

I think a lot of it comes from being the Orient. It would be great if we could keep hold of the feelings of euphoria at the close of last season at least until 5:00pm on 3rd August.

As others have said , we've lost one of our greatest ever coaches ( managers ) plus our two top goal scores have gone . On top of this I believe our squad is still too weak . Obviously ,there's still plenty of time to bring in one or two more players so we'll see what happens next. At the moment I would take a mid table finish with both hands .

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:13 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:12 pm

bobo66 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:20 am I'm staggered by the amount of doom and gloom on this Board before a ball has even been kicked in anger. I seem to recall there were similar feelings expressed before least season began because of the lack of activity in the transfer market.

I accept we have lost Bonne and Koroma, but would think that we have replaced them with 2 strikers. Of course, whether the replacements will be up to much is still to be seen. We have the same defence, which was so tight last season. The midfield does seem to be lacking a bit, but I thought the same last season.

I suppose a lot of it is because we have lost Edinburgh, bit we should at least give Embleton a chance before we talk about a relegation fight.

I think a lot of it comes from being the Orient. It would be great if we could keep hold of the feelings of euphoria at the close of last season at least until 5:00pm on 3rd August.

As others have said , we've lost one of our greatest ever coaches ( managers ) plus our two top goal scores have gone . On top of this I believe our squad is still too weak . Obviously ,there's still plenty of time to bring in one or two more players so we'll see what happens next. At the moment I would take a mid table finish with both hands .

Only Abu Hamza wouldn’t.

AckneyAwks wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:34 pm The only way Bonne and Koroma would have still been at this club would be if Justin was still alive and manager of the club. Even then they would more than likely have still moved on for ambition and financial reasons. It is almost certain that with Justin still here we would have signed Angol and Wilkinson or forwards on his list of targets of a similar quality and transfer fee. Everyone seems to agree that a certain type of midfield player may be still needed. The same applied from last season when Justin was here and remember Wright was his last signing. In other words even if Justin was still here probably everything that has taken place would have still happened. The main reason the defeatist people raise thier concerns and opinions is because they have lost theres and ours leader...JUSTIN.
We all have concerns and worries and mine are. And this is no slant on the present management we could be running 10points short at the end of the season because of Justin. This is nothing against any of the coaches, players or directors. It is because of JUSTIN.
I'm sure he would be kicking us all up the arse and speaking the words of belief and destiny that brought him success in his career. COME ON YOU O's

Forty-Niner wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:40 pm The trouble is there are too many knee jerkers and scapegoaters among Orient fans.
Our first season in the Conference started well and there were predictions of promotion by March. We then went on a poor run and talk was of relegation. Blow hot, blow cold. Last season when we lost at home to Salford according to some that was the end of promotion.
As for the scapegoat brigade (you know who you are) Jake Caprice was unpopular and look how well he's doing at Tranmere.
Current targets are Sam Ling, James Alibi and to a lesser extent Dale Gorman. These lads need encouragement and support. Let's get behind them this coming season and help to bring out their best.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:27 pm I for one an incredibly optimistic for the season ahead. So what if we gave away for a pittance our two best attackers and replaced them with unproven forwards. We can get promotion again, that is for sure. Even with a limited midfield and a reliance on aged players, there is no reason this season can’t be a success.

I am with me old mucker Whingechester on this one - let’s get behind the team and think the best.

Bluecap wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:14 pm My problem with the Interim Manager is he gives post match interviews in a red base ball hat that's too small for him.
Not a good look.

Forty-Niner wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:40 pm The trouble is there are too many knee jerkers and scapegoaters among Orient fans.
Our first season in the Conference started well and there were predictions of promotion by March. We then went on a poor run and talk was of relegation. Blow hot, blow cold. Last season when we lost at home to Salford according to some that was the end of promotion.
As for the scapegoat brigade (you know who you are) Jake Caprice was unpopular and look how well he's doing at Tranmere.
Current targets are Sam Ling, James Alibi and to a lesser extent Dale Gorman. These lads need encouragement and support. Let's get behind them this coming season and help to bring out their best.