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Re: Wordle

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:50 am
by Still's Carenae
Mick McQuaid wrote: Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:24 am https://freshman.dev/wordle/#/leaderboard

I spent a diverting half an hour or so looking into how people are coding wordle bots. Lots have got down to an average of 3.41, I haven't been able to find/understand whether someone has actually proved that this is the optimal strategy but I would think its close.

I spent another 10 minutes or so going through tuffers last 100 scores posted on here. Amazingly, despite occasionally using what us mere mortals would consider a slightly less than optimal strategy of using starting words with repeated letters he has managed an average of 3.23.
My stats from the start are 4.15. I don't have a routine of how or when I do them. Just enjoy messing around with different words.

Re: Wordle

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 12:07 pm
by gshaw
Wordle 400 4/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:16 pm
by Long slender neck
Wordle 400 3/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:56 am
by tuffers#1
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Re: Wordle

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:14 am
by StillSpike
Wordle 401 4/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:26 pm
by gshaw
Wordle 401 3/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:08 am
by StillSpike
Wordle 402 4/6

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Annoyed with myself. Should have been a 3er

Re: Wordle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:21 am
by Long slender neck
Wordle 402 6/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:19 am
by tuffers#1
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Re: Wordle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:35 am
by BoniO
Wordle 402 3/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:44 am
by tuffers#1
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Re: Wordle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:10 pm
by Mick McQuaid
Your 4 is way more suspicious than BoniO's 3 there actually tuffers. BoniO excluded 9 letters before getting a result, you excluded 3.

Re: Wordle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:36 pm
by BoniO
Mick McQuaid wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:10 pm Your 4 is way more suspicious than BoniO's 3 there actually tuffers. BoniO excluded 9 letters before getting a result, you excluded 3.
And, to be fair, I just guessed luckily!

Re: Wordle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:22 pm
by gshaw
Wordle 402 4/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:16 am
by StillSpike
Wordle 403 5/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:22 am
by Mick McQuaid
I'll make this my last bit of maths on the subject.

The best bots solve in 3 goes or less 56% of the time. Up until there were a few suggestions that tuffers was posting suspiciously good results he was running at 88% of games solved in 3 tries or less, after which his results have normalised a little for some reason.

Putting the results of the first 63 posts into a binomial probability calculator (I had to try 3 before I found one which calculates to enough decimal places) gives a probability of this happening, when using a mathematically perfect strategy, of 0.00000001649151% or about 10 times less likely than winning the lottery.

By the way, I cheated today after 4 goes by using a crossword solver after staring at it for about 5 minutes and not being able to think of any word.

Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:32 am
by BoniO
Wordle 403 3/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:48 am
by tuffers#1
Mick McQuaid wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:10 pm Your 4 is way more suspicious than BoniO's 3 there actually tuffers. BoniO excluded 9 letters before getting a result, you excluded 3.
B*ll*cks !!

Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:54 am
by tuffers#1
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Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:04 am
by Max Fowler
Mick McQuaid wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:22 am
Up until there were a few suggestions that tuffers was posting suspiciously good results he was running at 88% of games solved in 3 tries or less, after which his results have normalised a little for some reason.
:lol:

Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:43 am
by StillSpike
Is it better to exclude letters or to find them? My first word seems quite good at excluding all of F L A S K quite often.

Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:53 am
by tuffers#1
Mick McQuaid wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:22 am I'll make this my last bit of maths on the subject.

The best bots solve in 3 goes or less 56% of the time. Up until there were a few suggestions that tuffers was posting suspiciously good results he was running at 88% of games solved in 3 tries or less, after which his results have normalised a little for some reason.

Putting the results of the first 63 posts into a binomial probability calculator (I had to try 3 before I found one which calculates to enough decimal places) gives a probability of this happening, when using a mathematically perfect strategy, of 0.00000001649151% or about 10 times less likely than winning the lottery.

By the way, I cheated today after 4 goes by using a crossword solver after staring at it for about 5 minutes and not being able to think of any word.
Why use maths & bots ?

Use adverts & expand


Its what us kleva folk do ,

Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:38 pm
by gshaw
Wordle 403 5/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:37 pm
by Long slender neck
Wordle 403 6/6

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Re: Wordle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:37 pm
by Long slender neck
Mick McQuaid wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:22 am I'll make this my last bit of maths on the subject.

The best bots solve in 3 goes or less 56% of the time. Up until there were a few suggestions that tuffers was posting suspiciously good results he was running at 88% of games solved in 3 tries or less, after which his results have normalised a little for some reason.

Putting the results of the first 63 posts into a binomial probability calculator (I had to try 3 before I found one which calculates to enough decimal places) gives a probability of this happening, when using a mathematically perfect strategy, of 0.00000001649151% or about 10 times less likely than winning the lottery.

By the way, I cheated today after 4 goes by using a crossword solver after staring at it for about 5 minutes and not being able to think of any word.
Excellent work.