Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 5:28 pm
Is your car music system connected to Bluetooth?
Nope. Not connected to my phone in any way.
And no automatic Shazam is set up either
Are you on android ? Depending on the version I think it's part of the OS nowadays, so might be there without you knowing.
I can only imagine it being done "on device" because otherwise the logistics of listening in and transmitting the sound off-device/ recognising a song, stashing that away and then marrying that up with a facebook AD seems extraordinary.
They have a new album out and a tour to promote, advertising widely on Facebook and getting on the 6 musoc playlist is probably not down to our shadowy tech overlords.
Adz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:50 pm
1. Detox stuff is all snake oil, your body has various organs to detox for you. If you want to give them a break cut out booze and processed foods for a couple of days.
2. Your phone, google, alexa, etc is not listening to you, it doesn't need to. You get targeted ads based on what you search, interactions with social media, etc, but in general everyone is just far more predictable and susceptible to social programming than they want to accept and that drives a lot of the ads you see.
Of course Alexa is listening. How do you suppose it works if it were not?
Obviously it listens for ok alexa and whatever you say after that for a few seconds, it's not listening to what you say without triggering it though
Adz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:25 pm
This technology has been around for over 20 years, just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not credible. It's just not cost effect to do what you think they're doing. I've done case studies on various things over the years. There's a great one where walmart knew a young girl was pregnant before she'd told her parents.
Mate, working on the IT helpdesk in an investment bank does not make you Zuckerberg.
A few weeks ago I was humming Redbone's Come and get your love to myself, not a song that's usually on my mind but my kid had been playing lego superheroes 2 and it's on there. When I got into the work van, the radio came on tuned to Absolute ot Greatest Hits and it was slap bang in the middle of the chorus I was just humming
Surely much more of a coincidence than seeing an advert for a band that has just been on the radio and has a tour and album to plug, but obviously just a coincidence.
The management of a band that's on the 6 music playlist will quite obviously want to target ads towards people who listen to 6 music, with more ahown around times they are bing played, you are fairly obviously in the demographic that is likely to listen to 6 music. Can you not see there's absolutely no need to have heard you discussing it?
Because you believe it's happening you are on the lookout for these coincidences, it would be stranger if it never happened that you saw an ad for something you were talking about.
Ps. Turn off your internet connection and say Alexa, it will still respond but won't help with your request. There is a seperate wake word circuit and code.
BUT these tech companies want our 'data' to pass on to third parties to sell us things. Why would they not listen, when they're digesting every other bit of info?
The other one I get is Friend Suggestions for people I have no connection with but happen to have been in the same location as. That's wild.
It’s not the sophistication of it that I’m suspicious of, more the crudeness of it.
I don’t listen to 6music, never played pigs x6, never discussed them.
From what Facebook *does* have access to of me, it’d be able to work out that if it’s gonna advertise new music to me, female fronted indie bands are likely to be a good bet.
I don’t generally get music related adverts at all, aside from adverts for cover bands. Most of the music I listen to is played from an account that’s already linked to Spotify.
Then, ten minutes in a car and pigs x6 comes on, then I get my first ever advert for the band on Facebook within the half hour: it’s not “wow, these algorithms and the data they have on me are really working, they MUST be listening” - it’s “the only way they can target me this wrongly is if they’re listening”
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:01 am
Yes, all of that is true.
BUT these tech companies want our 'data' to pass on to third parties to sell us things. Why would they not listen, when they're digesting every other bit of info?
The other one I get is Friend Suggestions for people I have no connection with but happen to have been in the same location as. That's wild.
Because it's unnecessary and not cost effective.
Friend suggestions based on location is definitely a thing, and we probably gave our consent when we agreed to the 500 pages of terms when we signed up. Whatsapp has access to location and Facebook has networks of friends of friends, both owned by Meta. Not exactly rocket science.
I did that a few pages ago. Speech recognition and natural language processing are still, even with the Chinese finding ways of massively cutting costs, massively expensive at scale, and although huge progress has been made, often still quite sh*t at some basic tasks.
It is absolutely known and regularly reported on that we have uncaringly signed away the most intimate details of our lives, as I've said before most people entrust far more personal information to their internet searches than they do to casual acquaintances they might be chatting with. There's no need to add in the conspiracy that they are recording you, they just don't need to.
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:01 am
Yes, all of that is true.
BUT these tech companies want our 'data' to pass on to third parties to sell us things. Why would they not listen, when they're digesting every other bit of info?
The other one I get is Friend Suggestions for people I have no connection with but happen to have been in the same location as. That's wild.
Hoover - if you had to choose, would you prefer to hand over to me a log of every conversation you've had over the last year or details of every single thing you've viewed on the internet over the last year?
Which one do you think would be easier for me to get in depth personal information from?
