Liver Detoxes !

[StillSpike]

For some reason, my social media timelines are full of adverts for various liver detox products. I have questions.

1) Is anyone else here getting these ? Is it the time of year or are they somehow "targetting" me ! (I probably need it but can't think of anything about my search history or other internet usage that might make me a target market for these - Unless my smart speakers / phones are informing on me.)

2) Does anyone here use them - are they any good ?

[Dunners]

First time I've ever heard of a liver detox. Isn't that just like going a day or two without booze?

[StillSpike]

First time I've ever heard of a liver detox. Isn't that just like going a day or two without booze?

Dunno - never tried that

(jk - actually tend to be dry on "school nights")

It's this sort of thing:

https://theauric.store/products/liver-d ... z-detox-v2

[CEB2ElectricBoogaloo]

For some reason, my social media timelines are full of adverts for various liver detox products. I have questions.

1) Is anyone else here getting these ? Is it the time of year or are they somehow "targetting" me ! (I probably need it but can't think of anything about my search history or other internet usage that might make me a target market for these - Unless my smart speakers / phones are informing on me.)

2) Does anyone here use them - are they any good ?

Your smart phone is definitely, without question, listening out for key phrases which it then will use in targeted adverts. They are targeting you, and it’ll be based on what you’ve searched, what you’ve discussed online, and what you’ve discussed within earshot of your phone.

[Real Al]

My smartphone has been trolling me by downloading apps without my knowledge. So far, I've had a step tracker and a kidney function test

[Scuba Diver]

For some reason, my social media timelines are full of adverts for various liver detox products. I have questions.

1) Is anyone else here getting these ? Is it the time of year or are they somehow "targetting" me ! (I probably need it but can't think of anything about my search history or other internet usage that might make me a target market for these - Unless my smart speakers / phones are informing on me.)

2) Does anyone here use them - are they any good ?

Not sure you'd be spending your money wisely, Spike, unless you're suffering particuarly or have a pre-existing problem

The liver is the most resilient organ in the body with a serious recovery rate (within reason)

At the end of my drinking days I was informed I had fatty liver (the beginnings of cirrhosis). I didn't take any meds but just cut out booze and drank water.
Within 6 months had it tested and was back to 100% functionality. I was 48, so hardly a youngster and had been hammering the plonk for 20+ years.

I'm not sure you'd need such a product in all honesty..

[StillSpike]

For some reason, my social media timelines are full of adverts for various liver detox products. I have questions.

1) Is anyone else here getting these ? Is it the time of year or are they somehow "targetting" me ! (I probably need it but can't think of anything about my search history or other internet usage that might make me a target market for these - Unless my smart speakers / phones are informing on me.)

2) Does anyone here use them - are they any good ?

Not sure you'd be spending your money wisely, Spike, unless you're suffering particuarly or have a pre-existing problem

The liver is the most resilient organ in the body with a serious recovery rate (within reason)

At the end of my drinking days I was informed I had fatty liver (the beginnings of cirrhosis). I didn't take any meds but just cut out booze and drank water.
Within 6 months had it tested and was back to 100% functionality. I was 48, so hardly a youngster and had been hammering the plonk for 20+ years.

I'm not sure you'd need such a product in all honesty..

Much appreciated input - thank you. I suspected that they're likely snake-oil. I do have fatty liver and have recently been cutting it out for a month or so at a time and trying to keep it to 3 nights a week even when I'm on it (not always successfully it must be said). Suspect I'll take a longer period dry in the New Year.

[Long slender neck]

For some reason, my social media timelines are full of adverts for various liver detox products. I have questions.

1) Is anyone else here getting these ? Is it the time of year or are they somehow "targetting" me ! (I probably need it but can't think of anything about my search history or other internet usage that might make me a target market for these - Unless my smart speakers / phones are informing on me.)

2) Does anyone here use them - are they any good ?

Your smart phone is definitely, without question, listening out for key phrases which it then will use in targeted adverts. They are targeting you, and it’ll be based on what you’ve searched, what you’ve discussed online, and what you’ve discussed within earshot of your phone.

And those annoying cookie messages on every website you visit, "we'd like to share your data with our 827 partners" -yeah those too.

[Adz]

1. Detox stuff is all snake oil, your body has various organs to detox for you. If you want to give them a break cut out booze and processed foods for a couple of days.

2. Your phone, google, alexa, etc is not listening to you, it doesn't need to. You get targeted ads based on what you search, interactions with social media, etc, but in general everyone is just far more predictable and susceptible to social programming than they want to accept and that drives a lot of the ads you see.

[Dunners]

2. Your phone, google, alexa, etc is not listening to you, it doesn't need to. You get targeted ads based on what you search, interactions with social media, etc, but in general everyone is just far more predictable and susceptible to social programming than they want to accept and that drives a lot of the ads you see.

The algorithm can make mistakes though. For example, I keep being mistakenly bombarded by ads for weight loss, erectile dysfunction, hair dye & Spectator subscriptions.

[Long slender neck]

1. Detox stuff is all snake oil, your body has various organs to detox for you. If you want to give them a break cut out booze and processed foods for a couple of days.

2. Your phone, google, alexa, etc is not listening to you, it doesn't need to. You get targeted ads based on what you search, interactions with social media, etc, but in general everyone is just far more predictable and susceptible to social programming than they want to accept and that drives a lot of the ads you see.

Of course Alexa is listening. How do you suppose it works if it were not?

[Adz]

1. Detox stuff is all snake oil, your body has various organs to detox for you. If you want to give them a break cut out booze and processed foods for a couple of days.

2. Your phone, google, alexa, etc is not listening to you, it doesn't need to. You get targeted ads based on what you search, interactions with social media, etc, but in general everyone is just far more predictable and susceptible to social programming than they want to accept and that drives a lot of the ads you see.

Of course Alexa is listening. How do you suppose it works if it were not?

Obviously it listens for ok alexa and whatever you say after that for a few seconds, it's not listening to what you say without triggering it though

[Long slender neck]

Alexa is a massive loss maker for Amazon. You're the product!

[CEB2ElectricBoogaloo]

Very naive to think that that’s not happening. Especially cos every few years there’s a “oh weird turns out our company was listening, can’t understand how that happened but we promise it isn’t happening now” type story.

When a friend of my wife’s visits for the first time in a year, talks about buying a house and suddenly my social media is teeming with adverts about getting my house valued, sponsored posts by estate agents etc - and I mean LOTS, not seeing one post then thinking “that’s weird”, or if I say to my wife “next year I’m gonna try to get good at oil painting, can’t get my head round it” and suddenly my feed is endless “buy this online oil paint course”
It’s simply not true that the highly specific adverts that are in many cases not remotely related to search terms, can happen through anything other than passive listening that triggers when words of interest for targeted advertising are heard

[Currywurst and Chips]

Very creepy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65772154

[Adz]

Very naive to think that that’s not happening. Especially cos every few years there’s a “oh weird turns out our company was listening, can’t understand how that happened but we promise it isn’t happening now” type story.

When a friend of my wife’s visits for the first time in a year, talks about buying a house and suddenly my social media is teeming with adverts about getting my house valued, sponsored posts by estate agents etc - and I mean LOTS, not seeing one post then thinking “that’s weird”, or if I say to my wife “next year I’m gonna try to get good at oil painting, can’t get my head round it” and suddenly my feed is endless “buy this online oil paint course”
It’s simply not true that the highly specific adverts that are in many cases not remotely related to search terms, can happen through anything other than passive listening that triggers when words of interest for targeted advertising are heard

That's the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon

[CEB2ElectricBoogaloo]

It really isn’t, and again that’s incredible naivety.
I didn’t scroll past twenty estate agent adverts the day or the week before. The targeted adverts appear immediately, and appear in very high concentration. It’s not in dispute that devices are constantly listening for keywords - they are picking up what we say, and voice activation technology relies on that fact. Your position is reliant on “companies wouldn’t misuse such technology”, despite a hell of a lot of evidence to the contrary

[RedDwarf 1881]

First time I've ever heard of a liver detox. Isn't that just like going a day or two without booze?

Yes . The liver is very good at repairing itself. People with damaged livers due to alcohol are serious drinkers.

[Long slender neck]

1. Detox stuff is all snake oil, your body has various organs to detox for you. If you want to give them a break cut out booze and processed foods for a couple of days.

2. Your phone, google, alexa, etc is not listening to you, it doesn't need to. You get targeted ads based on what you search, interactions with social media, etc, but in general everyone is just far more predictable and susceptible to social programming than they want to accept and that drives a lot of the ads you see.

Of course Alexa is listening. How do you suppose it works if it were not?

Obviously it listens for ok alexa and whatever you say after that for a few seconds, it's not listening to what you say without triggering it though

Have you got an airfryer?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rt-devices

[Adz]

It really isn’t, and again that’s incredible naivety.
I didn’t scroll past twenty estate agent adverts the day or the week before. The targeted adverts appear immediately, and appear in very high concentration. It’s not in dispute that devices are constantly listening for keywords - they are picking up what we say, and voice activation technology relies on that fact. Your position is reliant on “companies wouldn’t misuse such technology”, despite a hell of a lot of evidence to the contrary

No it's not, it's working in data technology for 20+ years and knowing that it is easy to do it without having to rely on illegal practices.

[Adz]

Of course Alexa is listening. How do you suppose it works if it were not?

Obviously it listens for ok alexa and whatever you say after that for a few seconds, it's not listening to what you say without triggering it though

Have you got an airfryer?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rt-devices

If you click through the links it literally says the air fryer is not listening.

At the end of the day your phone is tracking everything you do, if some other company is doing it through smart appliances does it make much difference?

[Adz]

It really isn’t, and again that’s incredible naivety.
I didn’t scroll past twenty estate agent adverts the day or the week before. The targeted adverts appear immediately, and appear in very high concentration. It’s not in dispute that devices are constantly listening for keywords - they are picking up what we say, and voice activation technology relies on that fact. Your position is reliant on “companies wouldn’t misuse such technology”, despite a hell of a lot of evidence to the contrary

No it's not, it's working in data technology for 20+ years and knowing that it is easy to do it without having to rely on illegal practices.

Allow me to elaborate further on existing things it can use to do this without listening to you.

1. They know your demographics
2. They know the places you go
3. They know the things you buy
4. They know your social networks
5. They know where and when you've grouped together
6. They know what you search for on the internet
7. They know all the above for all your friends and family

This is all done via collaborations with companies like google, apple, visa, amex, meta, x, anything with a store card, etc. They sell the data which when used in conjunction with each other paints an almost complete picture of you and your friends

[CEB2ElectricBoogaloo]

You’re not telling me anything new. You’re telling me what the companies say. It’s bizarre that you think that such complex cross referencing of location, search terms used by others near you etc have all been used, but the fact that we all carry round a device capable of listening to us constantly isn’t related to the fact that just after talking about something, those devices give you targeted advertising.

[Long slender neck]

Obviously it listens for ok alexa and whatever you say after that for a few seconds, it's not listening to what you say without triggering it though

Have you got an airfryer?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rt-devices

If you click through the links it literally says the air fryer is not listening.

At the end of the day your phone is tracking everything you do, if some other company is doing it through smart appliances does it make much difference?

Its spying via an app on your phone. Are you now admitting we are spied on?

[CEB2ElectricBoogaloo]

“Your phone is tracking you, it’s doing it through complex cross referencing of what the people you’re talking to have searched for and where they’ve been. That’s definitely how it does it, because they say so. It’s definitely not doing it by using the microphone that’s always on, and always listening for keywords. We know this because the companies say so”

Hmmmm