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Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:42 pm Also isn't MAGA about taking America back to a time where there was a constant nuclear threat?
Yeah, trouble is fanboys like Reddwarf can't see these things sadly.
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:26 pm Just watch and listen to Biden . That should be enough .
Have you ever listened to Trump rambling on.
He has to say the same thing 3 or 4 times to remember what the f*ck he’s going on about, then 5 minutes later he starts on the same subject because he’s forgotten what he’s said!
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Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:42 pm Also isn't MAGA about taking America back to a time where there was a constant nuclear threat?
MAGA is about taking America back to the pre-WW2 period, when the US was more isolationist.
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cockhat wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:58 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:26 pm Just watch and listen to Biden . That should be enough .
Have you ever listened to Trump rambling on.
He has to say the same thing 3 or 4 times to remember what the f*ck he’s going on about, then 5 minutes later he starts on the same subject because he’s forgotten what he’s said!
Also, what the hell has Biden got to do with anything now? He wasn't even standing to be elected. He's History whereas Trump is the hellish future.
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Dunners wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:15 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:42 pm Also isn't MAGA about taking America back to a time where there was a constant nuclear threat?
MAGA is about taking America back to the pre-WW2 period, when the US was more isolationist.
Like the Great Depression of the 1930's era? They had it pretty good then I believe
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Celtient wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:29 pm
Dunners wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:15 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:42 pm Also isn't MAGA about taking America back to a time where there was a constant nuclear threat?
MAGA is about taking America back to the pre-WW2 period, when the US was more isolationist.
Like the Great Depression of the 1930's era? They had it pretty good then I believe
Some of them did.
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No doubt. Unfortunately it wasn't bad enough to prevent Mary McLeod leaving the Western Isles of Scotland and moving to America and spawning the Trumpet. Dawned immigrants!
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Dunners wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:15 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:42 pm Also isn't MAGA about taking America back to a time where there was a constant nuclear threat?
MAGA is about taking America back to the pre-WW2 period, when the US was more isolationist.
There are different elements and agendas within the ragbag of fascist and racist MAGA scum. Isolationism is one position. War with Iran is another less isolationist position.
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BoniO wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:26 pm
cockhat wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:58 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:26 pm Just watch and listen to Biden . That should be enough .
Have you ever listened to Trump rambling on.
He has to say the same thing 3 or 4 times to remember what the f*ck he’s going on about, then 5 minutes later he starts on the same subject because he’s forgotten what he’s said!
Also, what the hell has Biden got to do with anything now? He wasn't even standing to be elected. He's History whereas Trump is the hellish future.
Oh , I thought it was Biden who gave permission to launch America’s long range missiles into Russia . I didn’t realise Trump had already started his term as president
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:31 pm
BoniO wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:26 pm
cockhat wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:58 pm

Have you ever listened to Trump rambling on.
He has to say the same thing 3 or 4 times to remember what the f*ck he’s going on about, then 5 minutes later he starts on the same subject because he’s forgotten what he’s said!
Also, what the hell has Biden got to do with anything now? He wasn't even standing to be elected. He's History whereas Trump is the hellish future.
Oh , I thought it was Biden who gave permission to launch America’s long range missiles into Russia . I didn’t realise Trump had already started his term as president
You were referring to Biden rambling on and that's what I responded to.
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Oh oh

"UK embassy in Ukraine remains under review after US temporarily closed mission amid warnings of “potential significant air attack” on Kyiv.

No 10: "Our embassy remains open however the safety of our staff remains paramount & we keep our embassy posture & travel advice constantly under review."
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UK Storm Shadows fired into Russia
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We need a peace deal very quickly IMO

The West will have to accept ( I think they already have), that Ukraine will not regain the land lost in battle, and in return, Russia will have to allow Ukraine to join the EU, and then NATO, in time
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Russia is winning and could plausibly be looking at total victory should Trump cut support to Ukraine. They have no incentive to start peace talks that give them anything short of their original aims - change of government, Ukraine as an effective client state that will never join the EU or NATO, and annexation of all claimed territories and complete control of the sea of azov.

The speculation is that they'll start the pretence of peace talks to slow down arms supply to Ukraine from the west and keep pushing forward whilst negotiating. The idea that peace is in the gift of the west to give is really naive as it assumes Russia are ready to engage on peace, which they haven't given any indication of.
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Qin wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:19 pm We need a peace deal very quickly IMO

The West will have to accept ( I think they already have), that Ukraine will not regain the land lost in battle, and in return, Russia will have to allow Ukraine to join the EU, and then NATO, in time
In reality, that’s how this war will end . In the meantime Ukraine has claimed Russia as launched an intercontinental ballistic missile .
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Not verified yet if it was an ICBM, but definitely a ballistics missile.
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Pugwash wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:47 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:42 pm Also isn't MAGA about taking America back to a time where there was a constant nuclear threat?
Yeah, trouble is fanboys like Reddwarf can't see these things sadly.
What are you talking about . The constant nuclear threat is coming from Russia and North Korea .
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Dunners wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:39 pm Not verified yet if it was an ICBM, but definitely a ballistics missile.
On the BBC lunchtime news the UK government has said the launch of an intercontinental missile is deeply concerning
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:41 pm
Dunners wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:39 pm Not verified yet if it was an ICBM, but definitely a ballistics missile.
On the BBC lunchtime news the UK government has said the launch of an intercontinental missile is deeply concerning
Yeah, but that's just the UK Government. Until we get official message board confirmation, I wouldn't be too quick to jump to conclusions.
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:39 pm
Pugwash wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:47 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:42 pm Also isn't MAGA about taking America back to a time where there was a constant nuclear threat?
Yeah, trouble is fanboys like Reddwarf can't see these things sadly.
What are you talking about . The constant nuclear threat is coming from Russia and North Korea .
What was it Trump supposedly said? Don't do it Vlad, putin No way Trump Way. Do you think Trump wasnt talking Nukes?
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The Mindsweep wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:14 pm https://parcilsafety.uk/pages/how-to-su ... n%20usable.

Handly updated for 2024
Why on Earth anyone would want to survive WW3 is beyond me.

Now a zombie apocalypse, on the other hand, I could dig.
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StillSpike wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:23 pm
The Mindsweep wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:14 pm https://parcilsafety.uk/pages/how-to-su ... n%20usable.

Handly updated for 2024
Why on Earth anyone would want to survive WW3 is beyond me.

Now a zombie apocalypse, on the other hand, I could dig.
Some great advice on that page. Particularly the part about staying positive - not like it's the end of the world is it?
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The Mindsweep wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:14 pm https://parcilsafety.uk/pages/how-to-su ... n%20usable.

Handly updated for 2024
I can remember years ago a UK government video on how to survive a nuclear blast . My two favourites are with only 15 minutes warning to whitewash your whole house to deflect the heat from the blast. The second was to put your bed mattress up against a wall and hide behind it . Yeah, so basically you’re dead .
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Just to add , looking on the bright side of things we’ll all get a lovely suntan . Also our pensioners won’t need to worry about the winter fuel allowance because we’ll all be lovely and warm. …..well hot actually.
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