So Ronaldo in an ineffective press would have the same problem?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:41 pmHe holds position and drops off when its helps the team move forward.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:37 pmIs that why the press failed? Kane isn't Ronaldo, why play like Ronaldo & 7 or 9?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:56 pm
They all want the ball to feet. Running in behind isn’t their nature. They either run or Kane has to play like Ronaldo.
The press failed because the players didn’t press.
Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
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Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Read somewhere that Southgate is the highest paid international manager.
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For years the England managers have always been paid shed-loads. I believe that as far back as Fabio Capello (who couldn't even speak English) , he was being paid £6m a year ( £115k a week)....Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:50 pm Read somewhere that Southgate is the highest paid international manager.
I imagine it's to make-up for the ignominy of being the National Punchbag, wherein every journalist, bloke in the street, and simpleton, feels they have a right to put the boot into you- which can even cross over onto a personal level.
Even when you're Top of an international group (as England are now) you're fair game for a lashing.
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Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
Yep another semi. At least a semi final in last 3 of 4 major tournaments. You just cannot make a case against his management record.
Unless you’re a moron
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Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
A smattering of morons on here, and all over social media doing just that.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:48 pm Yep another semi. At least a semi final in last 3 of 4 major tournaments. You just cannot make a case against his management record.
Unless you’re a moron
They come with the inflated sense of entitlement of infants. No doubt they're disappointed today that England have progressed.
Unsurprisingly, they're the same people that like to put the knife into LOFC with their "expert" (lol) opinions - slaughtering signings they've never seen kick a ball for us etc.
Tragic.
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It was strange to see the total reversal of opinion from the pundits on the bbc yesterday. The performance was a bit better in patches then the previous 2 games, I guess, but the way they were biggIng up the performance and the tactics was just bizarre.
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will he have the cojones to give kane a rest? the team showed real character no little talent either. the penalties were simply phenomenal. phenomenal. Think we will have an easier time against the dutch than we would had against turkey...
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I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
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Can't win a Final unless you are in itPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pmI totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
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Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pmCan't win a Final unless you are in itPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pmI totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Football is part of the entertainment industry
and watching Southgate manage England
is not entertaining at all ..
Plenty of flaws in his management and
style of play he’s trying to install, negative
boring play where we literally scrape over
the line against also runs ..
Wages of £5 million a year gets you this,
Unbelievable to think that ..
1 win in 5 games ( 90 mins) in this tournament
stumble’s you over the line in the weaker
side of the draw ..
Only seen this style of inept management once
before once during the Becchitti era ..
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France haven't scored a goal from Open play & as the 2nd best team in the world are also in the semi finalHedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:52 pmBrigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pmCan't win a Final unless you are in itPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Football is part of the entertainment industry
and watching Southgate manage England
is not entertaining at all ..
Plenty of flaws in his management and
style of play he’s trying to install, negative
boring play where we literally scrape over
the line against also runs ..
Wages of £5 million a year gets you this,
Unbelievable to think that ..
1 win in 5 games ( 90 mins) in this tournament
stumble’s you over the line in the weaker
side of the draw ..
Only seen this style of inept management once
before once during the Becchitti era ..
Having scored less goals from open play than England.
It's incredibly exciting stuff for England
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Totally agree.Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:52 pmBrigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pmCan't win a Final unless you are in itPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Football is part of the entertainment industry
and watching Southgate manage England
is not entertaining at all ..
Plenty of flaws in his management and
style of play he’s trying to install, negative
boring play where we literally scrape over
the line against also runs ..
Wages of £5 million a year gets you this,
Unbelievable to think that ..
1 win in 5 games ( 90 mins) in this tournament
stumble’s you over the line in the weaker
side of the draw ..
Only seen this style of inept management once
before once during the Becchitti era ..
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Incredibly exciting stuff from England this must be a wind up or you are excited by boring, negative and unattractive football.Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:58 pmFrance haven't scored a goal from Open play & as the 2nd best team in the world are also in the semi finalHedmans Header wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:52 pmBrigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
Football is part of the entertainment industry
and watching Southgate manage England
is not entertaining at all ..
Plenty of flaws in his management and
style of play he’s trying to install, negative
boring play where we literally scrape over
the line against also runs ..
Wages of £5 million a year gets you this,
Unbelievable to think that ..
1 win in 5 games ( 90 mins) in this tournament
stumble’s you over the line in the weaker
side of the draw ..
Only seen this style of inept management once
before once during the Becchitti era ..
Having scored less goals from open play than England.
It's incredibly exciting stuff for England
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Nearly men are not winners and that’s what Southgate is and in my opinion always will be.Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pmCan't win a Final unless you are in itPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pmI totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
England desperately need a Manager that will win Major tournaments and play attacking football that is entertaining.
Nobody wants a loser that plays negative, boring and unattractive football.
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This thread was created 16 days ago when the haters thought Southgate was taking England out.PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:26 pmNearly men are not winners and that’s what Southgate is and in my opinion always will be.Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pmCan't win a Final unless you are in itPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
England desperately need a Manager that will win Major tournaments and play attacking football that is entertaining.
Nobody wants a loser that plays negative, boring and unattractive football.
Now they are 90 minutes away from another Final. Quite literally never happened before excitement for England & it's people
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They aren't nearly men until they are out & at this very moment they are in.PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:26 pmNearly men are not winners and that’s what Southgate is and in my opinion always will be.Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pmCan't win a Final unless you are in itPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:29 pm
I totally agree with them, boring, boring negative football I can’t stand to watch anymore.Just scraping a win on penalties is not good enough.Yes we are in another Semi Final but that’s means and counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Some people are easily pleased and don’t mind watching generally mind bending boring negative football and are happy with getting as far as the semi finals but I will never be.
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
England desperately need a Manager that will win Major tournaments and play attacking football that is entertaining.
Nobody wants a loser that plays negative, boring and unattractive football.
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Southgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:38 pmThey aren't nearly men until they are out & at this very moment they are in.PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:26 pmNearly men are not winners and that’s what Southgate is and in my opinion always will be.Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:34 pm
Can't win a Final unless you are in it
Germany tanked Scotland 5-1, Beat Hungary 2-0
& Drew 1-1 with Switzerland.. Scotland Switzerland & Germany all wish they were still in the Tournament.
The fact you aren't happy is because you are a Footballing Snob. Be Happy to still be in a Tournament competing
England desperately need a Manager that will win Major tournaments and play attacking football that is entertaining.
Nobody wants a loser that plays negative, boring and unattractive football.
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Re: Nearly the end of the line for Southgate?
So hasPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pmSouthgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:38 pmThey aren't nearly men until they are out & at this very moment they are in.PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:26 pm
Nearly men are not winners and that’s what Southgate is and in my opinion always will be.
England desperately need a Manager that will win Major tournaments and play attacking football that is entertaining.
Nobody wants a loser that plays negative, boring and unattractive football.
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Doesn’t change the fact that Southgate has been a nearly man since becoming England Manager and in my opinion will always be a nearly man, he is a loser for England in winning Tournaments.Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:58 pmSo hasPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pmSouthgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !
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Doesn't take much to get some people excited.
Can't say i've got above bored rigid as yet.
Can't say i've got above bored rigid as yet.
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But your opinion isn't important when it comes to England is it. Its just 1 of 60 millionPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:06 pmDoesn’t change the fact that Southgate has been a nearly man since becoming England Manager and in my opinion will always be a nearly man, he is a loser for England in winning Tournaments.Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:58 pmSo hasPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pm
Southgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !
Walter Winterbottom
Joe Mercer
Don Revie
Ron Greenwood
Bobby Robson
Graham Taylor
Terry Venables
Glen Hoddle
Howard Wilkinson
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180 minutes from winning a first tournament in nearly 60 years, pretty exciting stuff when you look at it Historically. I men Germany have won loads of tournaments as have Italy France & Spain.one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:06 pm Doesn't take much to get some people excited.
Can't say i've got above bored rigid as yet.
Not even going to Include Brazil & Argentina
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Might be some truth in that, but we shall see..PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:06 pmDoesn’t change the fact that Southgate has been a nearly man since becoming England Manager and in my opinion will always be a nearly man, he is a loser for England in winning Tournaments.Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:58 pmSo hasPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pm
Southgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !
Walter Winterbottom
Joe Mercer
Don Revie
Ron Greenwood
Bobby Robson
Graham Taylor
Terry Venables
Glen Hoddle
Howard Wilkinson
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So the same as every single manager we've ever had apart from Ramsay then?PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:06 pmDoesn’t change the fact that Southgate has been a nearly man since becoming England Manager and in my opinion will always be a nearly man, he is a loser for England in winning Tournaments.Brigs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:58 pmSo hasPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:47 pm
Southgate has been a nearly man since he became England Manager, fact !
Walter Winterbottom
Joe Mercer
Don Revie
Ron Greenwood
Bobby Robson
Graham Taylor
Terry Venables
Glen Hoddle
Howard Wilkinson
Kevin Keegan
Peter Taylor
Sven Goran Eriksson
Steve McClaren
Fabio Capello
Stuart Pearce
Roy Hodgson
Sam Allardyce.
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