Privatisation as answer to the nation's decay?

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Privatisation as answer to the nation's decay?

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Starmer seems to think so.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -blackrock

Seems that our current political leaders STILL are determined to do so, despite all the evidence of how privatisation has impoverished/ destroyed national assets, services and resources and life's basic essentials.
Yet Starmer is still advocating more of it!

No wonder he went to such extremes to try and wipe out the public desires for Corbynism!
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National assets such as the health service and social care that haven't been privatised aren't exactly thriving either.
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Such a mind bottling argument to buy into: "hey, look at this thing that successive Governments have ruined via savage cuts and wilful underinvestment - it's not looking too healthy so maybe privatisation is the answer?" 🤗
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Where's the money gone?
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Long slender neck wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:11 am Where's the money gone?
That’s an easy one - where is all the money now.
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E10EU wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:18 am Starmer seems to think so.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -blackrock

Seems that our current political leaders STILL are determined to do so, despite all the evidence of how privatisation has impoverished/ destroyed national assets, services and resources and life's basic essentials.
Yet Starmer is still advocating more of it!

No wonder he went to such extremes to try and wipe out the public desires for Corbynism!
George Galloway was right .The Tories and Labour Party are two cheeks of the same backside
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One thing worth remembering ( when you are as old as me ), is that Nationalised industries were subjected to a lot of jiggery pokey by the incumbent Government. When inflation was high, whatever Government tended to take a tough line with State Unions, even if their particular side of industry was raking in the money. This led to a lot of unrest. Also the price of the commodity could be calculated to suit the Government's needs rather than the Market's need. But overall, a lot of the Nationalised Industries made a lot of dough for the Government. That's why Thatcher sold them off to her mates. That's why the UK is short of dough. The Tories always downplayed the profitability of these industries and made & song & dance about any problems. Making it easy to sell to their mates.
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Friend or faux wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:29 amAlso the price of the commodity could be calculated to suit the Government's needs rather than the Market's need.
Good.
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Hoover Attack wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:34 am
Friend or faux wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:29 amAlso the price of the commodity could be calculated to suit the Government's needs rather than the Market's need.
Good.
But as we now see: the government's needs are not necessarily the same as the public's needs.
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Friend or faux wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:29 am One thing worth remembering ( when you are as old as me ), is that Nationalised industries were subjected to a lot of jiggery pokey by the incumbent Government. When inflation was high, whatever Government tended to take a tough line with State Unions, even if their particular side of industry was raking in the money. This led to a lot of unrest. Also the price of the commodity could be calculated to suit the Government's needs rather than the Market's need. But overall, a lot of the Nationalised Industries made a lot of dough for the Government. That's why Thatcher sold them off to her mates. That's why the UK is short of dough. The Tories always downplayed the profitability of these industries and made & song & dance about any problems. Making it easy to sell to their mates.
So many of the industries were sold to financial interests abroad, also.
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E10EU wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:18 am Starmer seems to think so.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -blackrock

Seems that our current political leaders STILL are determined to do so, despite all the evidence of how privatisation has impoverished/ destroyed national assets, services and resources and life's basic essentials.
Yet Starmer is still advocating more of it!

No wonder he went to such extremes to try and wipe out the public desires for Corbynism!
This is PFI mark 2. Will we never learn?
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Still's Carenae wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:13 pm
E10EU wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:18 am Starmer seems to think so.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -blackrock

Seems that our current political leaders STILL are determined to do so, despite all the evidence of how privatisation has impoverished/ destroyed national assets, services and resources and life's basic essentials.
Yet Starmer is still advocating more of it!

No wonder he went to such extremes to try and wipe out the public desires for Corbynism!
This is PFI mark 2. Will we never learn?
You're not here to learn.

You are here to do as you are told and to give international finance capital access to super profits from public services as the rate of return on capital in private markets continues to fall.
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So where do we signup to the revolution party then - I can’t find them on my ballot paper.
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BoniO wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:01 pm So where do we signup to the revolution party then - I can’t find them on my ballot paper.
Do what I'm going to do tomorrow. Add a new category to the bottom of the ballot paper by either writing in something like "A democratic socialist party" or "none of the kunts above"
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Maxy:-Do what I'm going to do tomorrow. Add a new category to the bottom of the ballot paper by either writing in something like "A democratic socialist party" or "none of the kunts above"

It would be easier if you voted for your local Tory ( you know that's what you really want )
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Friend or faux wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:55 pm Maxy:-Do what I'm going to do tomorrow. Add a new category to the bottom of the ballot paper by either writing in something like "A democratic socialist party" or "none of the kunts above"

It would be easier if you voted for your local Tory ( you know that's what you really want )
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