I got to thinking.................

[ComeOnYouOs]

The term bedwetter used by some on here to describe people who care, when things are not going well and they vocalise their concern.

Ok, what about the opposite ( of which there are many on here), people who appear not to give a sh1t when things are not going well, in the belief that its unnecessary to be concerned because somehow things will be fine, and that anyone who is concerned and says so, is a lesser person.

Anyone got any names to call these people? What about Boneheads ? Any other names?

[Friend or fart]

The obvious one is Micawbers. Charles Dickens character, the eternal optimist, always believing that something will turn up. A bit like our new prolific goal scoring hero.

[Mistadobalina]

The issue is you will show zero contrition if we get a result on Saturday. The evidence in favour of the happy clappies is far stronger than it is the endless whiners - we are coming off the back of a title winning season, we have held onto the best manager we've had in decades and somehow managed to get our best outfield player back on loan. We recruited 9 players this summer, which is more than I think any of us were expecting, and almost all of them have good records they can point to.

Is this the same as pretending this division is going to be a cakewalk? Obviously not. We're a smaller fish in this pond. We are going to get beaten a lot more this season as we'll be facing teams with budgets several times our own, and with years of recruiting as this level or higher so will naturally have more depth and experience. Issues we were able to cover up last season won't be as easy this season. Comfortable survival would be a really positive outcome.

I'm okay with getting angsty about things if we're staring down the barrell come end of September with 1 win and only a handful of goals. But the club has earned a lot more credit in the bank than you and others are giving them.

[Max B Gold]

The issue is you will show zero contrition if we get a result on Saturday. The evidence in favour of the happy clappies is far stronger than it is the endless whiners - we are coming off the back of a title winning season, we have held onto the best manager we've had in decades and somehow managed to get our best outfield player back on loan. We recruited 9 players this summer, which is more than I think any of us were expecting, and almost all of them have good records they can point to.

Is this the same as pretending this division is going to be a cakewalk? Obviously not. We're a smaller fish in this pond. We are going to get beaten a lot more this season as we'll be facing teams with budgets several times our own, and with years of recruiting as this level or higher so will naturally have more depth and experience. Issues we were able to cover up last season won't be as easy this season. Comfortable survival would be a really positive outcome.

I'm okay with getting angsty about things if we're staring down the barrell come end of September with 1 win and only a handful of goals. But the club has earned a lot more credit in the bank than you and others are giving them.

Don't worry so much. Something will turn up once the owners get their large wedge out and sign some marquee material.

[Story of O]

We've lost one league game 1-0, not really time to panic

[Stan1972]

Not panicking, the word frustrated is a better term to use.
The very important signing since we ended last season, was always going to be, who will be O’s new No.9, to score the goals we need to win tight games and stay in L1.
And we are still waiting…
This is not bed wetting
This is not panicking
For me it is frustration

[Long slender neck]

The bedwetters damage morale and make a toxic and negative impact on atmosphere.

I'd rather be a bonehead.

[LittleMate]

Not panicking, the word frustrated is a better term to use.
The very important signing since we ended last season, was always going to be, who will be O’s new No.9, to score the goals we need to win tight games and stay in L1.
And we are still waiting…
This is not bed wetting
This is not panicking
For me it is frustration

I still don't see how you can be frustrated after one league game - that you may well not have attended - against one of the bookies favourites?

I suppose its the difference between a glass half empty and a glass half full supporter - but as I'm the latter I find it hard to understand the former.

[RedDwarf 1881]

The term bedwetter used by some on here to describe people who care, when things are not going well and they vocalise their concern.

Ok, what about the opposite ( of which there are many on here), people who appear not to give a sh1t when things are not going well, in the belief that its unnecessary to be concerned because somehow things will be fine, and that anyone who is concerned and says so, is a lesser person.

Anyone got any names to call these people? What about Boneheads ? Any other names?

These people appear not to give a toss so how about calling them Tossers .

[ComeOnYouOs]

The term bedwetter used by some on here to describe people who care, when things are not going well and they vocalise their concern.

Ok, what about the opposite ( of which there are many on here), people who appear not to give a sh1t when things are not going well, in the belief that its unnecessary to be concerned because somehow things will be fine, and that anyone who is concerned and says so, is a lesser person.

Anyone got any names to call these people? What about Boneheads ? Any other names?

These people appear not to give a toss so how about calling them Tossers .

[Story of O]

When we had that bad run in January I bet a lot of you were panicking, turned out ok in the end

[gshaw]

The term bedwetter used by some on here to describe people who care, when things are not going well and they vocalise their concern.

Ok, what about the opposite ( of which there are many on here), people who appear not to give a sh1t when things are not going well, in the belief that its unnecessary to be concerned because somehow things will be fine, and that anyone who is concerned and says so, is a lesser person.

Anyone got any names to call these people? What about Boneheads ? Any other names?

Clappies

That was the term used during the Embleton times, to think some would be happy to have stuck with him and mid-table L2 mediocrity with 0 shots per game

[spen666]

The term bedwetter used by some on here to describe people who care, when things are not going well and they vocalise their concern.

Ok, what about the opposite ( of which there are many on here), people who appear not to give a sh1t when things are not going well, in the belief that its unnecessary to be concerned because somehow things will be fine, and that anyone who is concerned and says so, is a lesser person.

Anyone got any names to call these people? What about Boneheads ? Any other names?

Here is a radical idea,

as these people seem to support their team through thick and perceived thin, then why not call them SUPPORTERS or alternatively call them by their name

[Long slender neck]

The term bedwetter used by some on here to describe people who care, when things are not going well and they vocalise their concern.

Ok, what about the opposite ( of which there are many on here), people who appear not to give a sh1t when things are not going well, in the belief that its unnecessary to be concerned because somehow things will be fine, and that anyone who is concerned and says so, is a lesser person.

Anyone got any names to call these people? What about Boneheads ? Any other names?

Bedwetter isnt used to describe people 'who care', its to describe those who frequently panic.

[RedDwarf 1881]

When we had that bad run in January I bet a lot of you were panicking, turned out ok in the end

Hindsight is a wonderful thing .

[RedDwarf 1881]

The term bedwetter used by some on here to describe people who care, when things are not going well and they vocalise their concern.

Ok, what about the opposite ( of which there are many on here), people who appear not to give a sh1t when things are not going well, in the belief that its unnecessary to be concerned because somehow things will be fine, and that anyone who is concerned and says so, is a lesser person.

Anyone got any names to call these people? What about Boneheads ? Any other names?

Bedwetter isnt used to describe people 'who care', its to describe those who frequently panic.

Define the difference between caring and panic ?

[Long slender neck]

You were wrong then?

Teague is right about your ilk, you panic and moan in the knowledge that you can brush off being wrong.

[Long slender neck]

The term bedwetter used by some on here to describe people who care, when things are not going well and they vocalise their concern.

Ok, what about the opposite ( of which there are many on here), people who appear not to give a sh1t when things are not going well, in the belief that its unnecessary to be concerned because somehow things will be fine, and that anyone who is concerned and says so, is a lesser person.

Anyone got any names to call these people? What about Boneheads ? Any other names?

Bedwetter isnt used to describe people 'who care', its to describe those who frequently panic.

Define the difference between caring and panic ?

Theres an absence of logic and being rational when you panic.

[Chief crazy horse]

The issue is you will show zero contrition if we get a result on Saturday. The evidence in favour of the happy clappies is far stronger than it is the endless whiners - we are coming off the back of a title winning season, we have held onto the best manager we've had in decades and somehow managed to get our best outfield player back on loan. We recruited 9 players this summer, which is more than I think any of us were expecting, and almost all of them have good records they can point to.

Is this the same as pretending this division is going to be a cakewalk? Obviously not. We're a smaller fish in this pond. We are going to get beaten a lot more this season as we'll be facing teams with budgets several times our own, and with years of recruiting as this level or higher so will naturally have more depth and experience. Issues we were able to cover up last season won't be as easy this season. Comfortable survival would be a really positive outcome.

I'm okay with getting angsty about things if we're staring down the barrell come end of September with 1 win and only a handful of goals. But the club has earned a lot more credit in the bank than you and others are giving them.

Any Orient fan already knows about all these facts and figures. We, 'the whiners' appreciate very much what the club has done and what we are trying to achieve. But we are talking about the present not last season. And we, because we care, are talking about how ineffective our forward play is. I, personally, do not think there is anything more frustrating when a team presents very little danger on goal and simply does not look like scoring. And i think I'm talking for a few on here, for simply pointing this out. It's always easy to resort to the same old whining argument but I see it as constructive and realistic criticism. I am a die hard Orient supporter but I never delude myself into thinking everything is ok. At the moment our feeble threat on the opposition goal is not ok.

[ComeOnYouOs]

The issue is you will show zero contrition if we get a result on Saturday. The evidence in favour of the happy clappies is far stronger than it is the endless whiners - we are coming off the back of a title winning season, we have held onto the best manager we've had in decades and somehow managed to get our best outfield player back on loan. We recruited 9 players this summer, which is more than I think any of us were expecting, and almost all of them have good records they can point to.

Is this the same as pretending this division is going to be a cakewalk? Obviously not. We're a smaller fish in this pond. We are going to get beaten a lot more this season as we'll be facing teams with budgets several times our own, and with years of recruiting as this level or higher so will naturally have more depth and experience. Issues we were able to cover up last season won't be as easy this season. Comfortable survival would be a really positive outcome.

I'm okay with getting angsty about things if we're staring down the barrell come end of September with 1 win and only a handful of goals. But the club has earned a lot more credit in the bank than you and others are giving them.

Any Orient fan already knows about all these facts and figures. We, 'the whiners' appreciate very much what the club has done and what we are trying to achieve. But we are talking about the present not last season. And we, because we care, are talking about how ineffective our forward play is. I, personally, do not think there is anything more frustrating when a team presents very little danger on goal and simply does not look like scoring. And i think I'm talking for a few on here, for simply pointing this out. It's always easy to resort to the same old whining argument but I see it as constructive and realistic criticism. I am a die hard Orient supporter but I never delude myself into thinking everything is ok. At the moment our feeble threat on the opposition goal is not ok.

This ^^^^^^^^^

[Proposition Joe]

You were wrong then?

Teague is right about your ilk, you panic and moan in the knowledge that you can brush off being wrong.

Same with so many things these days. Loudmouth faces in the media talking about football, politics or whatever and confidently proclaiming X or Y never stop for a second to acknowledge when their predictions don't come to pass, they just move on to the next rant or moan as if nothing happened.

[Mistadobalina]

The issue is you will show zero contrition if we get a result on Saturday. The evidence in favour of the happy clappies is far stronger than it is the endless whiners - we are coming off the back of a title winning season, we have held onto the best manager we've had in decades and somehow managed to get our best outfield player back on loan. We recruited 9 players this summer, which is more than I think any of us were expecting, and almost all of them have good records they can point to.

Is this the same as pretending this division is going to be a cakewalk? Obviously not. We're a smaller fish in this pond. We are going to get beaten a lot more this season as we'll be facing teams with budgets several times our own, and with years of recruiting as this level or higher so will naturally have more depth and experience. Issues we were able to cover up last season won't be as easy this season. Comfortable survival would be a really positive outcome.

I'm okay with getting angsty about things if we're staring down the barrell come end of September with 1 win and only a handful of goals. But the club has earned a lot more credit in the bank than you and others are giving them.

Any Orient fan already knows about all these facts and figures. We, 'the whiners' appreciate very much what the club has done and what we are trying to achieve. But we are talking about the present not last season. And we, because we care, are talking about how ineffective our forward play is. I, personally, do not think there is anything more frustrating when a team presents very little danger on goal and simply does not look like scoring. And i think I'm talking for a few on here, for simply pointing this out. It's always easy to resort to the same old whining argument but I see it as constructive and realistic criticism. I am a die hard Orient supporter but I never delude myself into thinking everything is ok. At the moment our feeble threat on the opposition goal is not ok.

*Was in one league game.

[Cheshunto]

Bedwetters just need to show a bit more patience really.
We’ve lost ONE game by 1-0 and had equal possession with a side that probably has a far bigger budget than Orient.
Yes, we’re all a bit frustrated at not getting a No. 9 in just yet but let’s give the team we have a chance .
Really hope we can ALL get behind the team tomorrow and get a result.

[Chief crazy horse]

Where you micawbers are missing the point is we are not talking about having played only two games. We are talking about what is there in front of us, for all to see. (Or at least what many can see)

[RedDwarf 1881]

Bedwetters just need to show a bit more patience really.
We’ve lost ONE game by 1-0 and had equal possession with a side that probably has a far bigger budget than Orient.
Yes, we’re all a bit frustrated at not getting a No. 9 in just yet but let’s give the team we have a chance .
Really hope we can ALL get behind the team tomorrow and get a result.

And Tossers need to stop using the Bedwetter insult so often .