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Re: Drinnan,Kellman,Sotiriou why no goals?

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:58 am With any luck the arrival of Kieron Sadler will help them start scoring again . He looks to be the type of player that can create chances for them .
Personally I don’t think Sadler is capable of leading the line and I think Wellens has brought him in to play out wide to cover for Smyth and Archibald,I may be proved wrong but when watching him last Saturday he doesn’t look great at shielding the ball and he doesn’t look particularly comfortable in the air, however on the plus side he’s got good control and pace and seems to have a good footballing brain. I think he will be a very good addition to the squad 🙈
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Re: Drinnan,Kellman,Sotiriou why no goals?

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scottychamps wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:58 am Dris is unfortunately not good enough and missed about 5 1 on 1 last year under kenny jacket and could not score for toffee in about a dozen games and contributed to kenny getting the sack. Rual is also not good enough to play up front on his own. You can’t play him up front cos he can’t win a header as a target man, he is to small to hold the ball up and play off him. This is why he is played out wide. But this does not work because he has no pace to take anyone on. The only way to get the best out of ruel is to play him of a target man like smith ( little and large partnership old school) with 2 up front but rw does not like 2 up front. Another option is the number 10 role but monks is a better player then ruel which is why he as played at a higher level. So it basically leaves ruel as a impact sub option because he can finish.
So it leaves us with Kelman for now. Next year all 3 will go to other clubs.
Good summing up
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Re: Drinnan,Kellman,Sotiriou why no goals?

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MrB wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:14 pm
scottychamps wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:58 am Dris is unfortunately not good enough and missed about 5 1 on 1 last year under kenny jacket and could not score for toffee in about a dozen games and contributed to kenny getting the sack. Rual is also not good enough to play up front on his own. You can’t play him up front cos he can’t win a header as a target man, he is to small to hold the ball up and play off him. This is why he is played out wide. But this does not work because he has no pace to take anyone on. The only way to get the best out of ruel is to play him of a target man like smith ( little and large partnership old school) with 2 up front but rw does not like 2 up front. Another option is the number 10 role but monks is a better player then ruel which is why he as played at a higher level. So it basically leaves ruel as a impact sub option because he can finish.
So it leaves us with Kelman for now. Next year all 3 will go to other clubs.
Good summing up
I don’t think any of the three are good enough for League One which is hopefully where we’re heading.
I agree that I don’t think any of them will be at Orient next season.
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Re: Drinnan,Kellman,Sotiriou why no goals?

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Wally Banter wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:10 am Sotiriou is a very decent finisher, and that’s about it. Not sure I can remember a game in which he’s started and played particularly well. His positional discipline and decision making in midfield areas are below the required standard, in my view.

Agree that Drinan must be pushing for a start soon - nothing wrong with Kelman’s work rate, but Drinan offers work rate AND better hold up / link play.
Ahem.
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Re: Drinnan,Kellman,Sotiriou why no goals?

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Drinan has had such an in & out season , yet still puts everything in . Dont see Richie getting rid of him any time soon 13 goalt last season shows he can score goals .
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Re: Drinnan,Kellman,Sotiriou why no goals?

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tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:26 pm Drinan has had such an in & out season , yet still puts everything in . Dont see Richie getting rid of him any time soon 13 goalt last season shows he can score goals .
Mate, he’s been dire this season, sorry.

What’s boiling my piss is the fact that if we’d had the balls to bring in a decent striker we’d have walked this season. We’re 8 points ahead and yet neither our main two have scored since Christ was a carpenter. It’s so frustrating.
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Re: Drinnan,Kellman,Sotiriou why no goals?

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Stowaway wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:31 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:26 pm Drinan has had such an in & out season , yet still puts everything in . Dont see Richie getting rid of him any time soon 13 goalt last season shows he can score goals .
Mate, he’s been dire this season, sorry.

What’s boiling my piss is the fact that if we’d had the balls to bring in a decent striker we’d have walked this season. We’re 8 points ahead and yet neither our main two have scored since Christ was a carpenter. It’s so frustrating.
Wellens knows the type of goal scorer he wants, he'll get him in the summer . Drinan has been injured half the season henc why he hasnt been fully at it.
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Bollocks to next season - we need to ensure we get promotion this season!
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Stowaway wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:41 pm Bollocks to next season - we need to ensure we get promotion this season!
We will & without an out goalscorer , amazin innit :mrgreen:
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tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:56 pm
Stowaway wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:41 pm Bollocks to next season - we need to ensure we get promotion this season!
We will & without an out goalscorer , amazin innit :mrgreen:
Walsall bought Matt & Stevens neither have scored yet, go on Walsalls forum they’re saying we are a class act.
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Drinnan was great today (although died on his arse, understandably, earlyish in the second half).
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Re: Drinnan,Kellman,Sotiriou why no goals?

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B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:35 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:56 pm
Stowaway wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:41 pm Bollocks to next season - we need to ensure we get promotion this season!
We will & without an out goalscorer , amazin innit :mrgreen:
Walsall bought Matt & Stevens neither have scored yet, go on Walsalls forum they’re saying we are a class act.
Saw a few say similar in comms on bbc match report.
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Stowaway wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:31 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:26 pm Drinan has had such an in & out season , yet still puts everything in . Dont see Richie getting rid of him any time soon 13 goalt last season shows he can score goals .
Mate, he’s been dire this season, sorry.

What’s boiling my piss is the fact that if we’d had the balls to bring in a decent striker we’d have walked this season. We’re 8 points ahead and yet neither our main two have scored since Christ was a carpenter. It’s so frustrating.
8 points clear of 2nd, god knows how many clear of the all important 45th, it's just sooo frustrating!
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We should concentrate on our plus points not elaborate on what we never got. Let’s get behind the team and help push them to promotion….Up the O’s
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TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:19 pm
Stowaway wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:31 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:26 pm Drinan has had such an in & out season , yet still puts everything in . Dont see Richie getting rid of him any time soon 13 goalt last season shows he can score goals .
Mate, he’s been dire this season, sorry.

What’s boiling my piss is the fact that if we’d had the balls to bring in a decent striker we’d have walked this season. We’re 8 points ahead and yet neither our main two have scored since Christ was a carpenter. It’s so frustrating.
8 points clear of 2nd, god knows how many clear of the all important 45th, it's just sooo frustrating!
23rd. ??
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Oops, 4th!
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TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:14 pm Drinnan was great today (although died on his arse, understandably, earlyish in the second half).
Interested to read why you think he played well?
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TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:14 pm Drinnan was great today (although died on his arse, understandably, earlyish in the second half).
Oh ffs.
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Why are so many questioning Richie Wellens ? You're Joking right ?
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Maybe we should give turns a run up front.
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Adz wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:44 am Maybe we should give turns a run up front.
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Goals arriving Tuesday.
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Let's hope you are right. A home game against the bottom of the table side. What could possibly go wrong?
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The way we finished yesterday’s game nothing.
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Re: Drinnan,Kellman,Sotiriou why no goals?

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Jeremy Bentham wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:48 pm
Wally Banter wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:10 am Sotiriou is a very decent finisher, and that’s about it. Not sure I can remember a game in which he’s started and played particularly well. His positional discipline and decision making in midfield areas are below the required standard, in my view.

Agree that Drinan must be pushing for a start soon - nothing wrong with Kelman’s work rate, but Drinan offers work rate AND better hold up / link play.

Ruel is the best finisher at the club so either play him in the middle or don't play him.

But none of the forwards have had much created for them lately.
I think it's a choice, play Drinan or Kelman down the middle and get the energy and press but only a goal once every 5 games or so, or play Ruel and be more likely to see the net bulge.

I know which I prefer.
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