Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:51 pm
Not you, amazingly LSN actually had it solved today after 1 guess (if he was smart enough to know all the possible answers and keep track of them). The other attempts were entirely superfluous.
If he had it solved after 1 guess why is the top line
Not all green & alone ?
Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:51 pm
Not you, amazingly LSN actually had it solved today after 1 guess (if he was smart enough to know all the possible answers and keep track of them). The other attempts were entirely superfluous.
NOT true. My third guess was 'BLURS'. So your AI is broken.
It is but it isn't on the wordle answer list. If you right click and look at the source code for the game you can see every answer that will ever be used (unless of course they update it).
I don't advise doing this because they are in date order and it will ruin the game for a few days until you forget what you saw.
You can also see the allowed list, which is every word that can be entered.
The answer list is 2315 words, the allowed list is more than 14000 words.
Last edited by Mick McQuaid on Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
This is the complete list of words wordle would let you enter that would meet your pattern, only one of them is in the answer list. Surely that makes sense now?
BLURS IS A WORD
WORDLE ACCEPTS THE WORD BLURS
BLURS IS A VALID GUESS CONSIDERING 'have r as the 4th letter and contain the letter s not in the first position.'
For what it is worth there has not been an answer with an "s" as the last letter so I have eschewed that as an option, although I haven't seen the word list, particularly as it didn't seem good practice to me for the game to allow plurals. If a) the answer list is complete and won't be added to or b) any additions will not include an s at the end, then LNS touches on a reasonable point - why allow guesses with an s at the end/why not map valid guesses to valid answers
1. The game would be very frustrating if the allowed list was restricted so much, you'd constantly be told words weren't valid
2. Using unusual words is bery useful for excluding words. Courd and Mucho are great second guesses for example.
Of course you're not meant to know the answer list, that was just a dig at those with miraculous abilities to regularly solve the game faster than a computer can. The point was that LSN's game was technically solved after the first guess, and the code that proves that bit at least is correct.
Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:58 pm
"those with miraculous abilities to regularly solve the game faster than a computer can."
Computers are programmed by humans though. There's no reason why another human being might not have abilities, instinctual guesses, sudden insights, that the poor old computer, hindered by it's programmer, won't have.
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:09 pm
Your code is evidently incorrect.
In general, undoubtedly. In this particular instance its clearly correct.
There are some things humans are better at than a computer, doing a few million calculations in a second is not one of them, hence why even my basic code could show the game was solved when humans couldn't.
The only people who would argue that intuition or insight can explain someone regularly outdoing a check of every possible word to find the best one to use are CHEATS (obviously a valid guess but not an answer).
Having the separate lists of allowed and answer words is what makes the game playable. It would be sh*t if you could just enter any string of 5 letters and sh*t if you were guessing words that you know are real words but were being rejected. Having the allowed list as the answers would also be rubbish as most days the answer would be a word a lot of people wouldn't know.
The answer list was decided by Josh Wardles wife apparently, taking out anything too esoteric but aiming for a mix of easier and hard words. The decision not to allow plurals as answers is sensible, I think. It would be less satisfying to guess most of a word and clearly just have to add an s on the end.
Anyway, I didn't make the game, I'm just telling you how it is, the code has an answer list and an allowed list and blurs is not an answer!
