Ebbsfleet Having a Clearout of Contracted Players

Chat about Leyton Orient (or anything else)

Moderator: Long slender neck

Sid Bishop
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 5943
Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:12 am
Has thanked: 5568 times
Been thanked: 1066 times

Re: Ebbsfleet Having a Clearout of Contracted Players

Post by Sid Bishop »

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 1:24 pm
Blaming Gorman for being sh*t in April 2020 because he missed July 2019 pre season is ridiculous. Pre season is all about fitness, that’s it. And the amount of time Dale has been back in training, there’s no excuse for fitness being an issue at all.

Lack of match sharpness because of no game time is a different matter and it’s a fair point. But as others have said, the likes of Happe and Marvin have both been dropped in and consistently delivered.

Still think there’s a player in there and really hope he can home good but the reason he hasn’t as yet is not because he’s unfit.
All valid points. I just wonder if Gorman's ankle injury proved to be worse than it was thought to be at the time of his signing ?
When I watch him play he sometimes seems to pull out of tackles, perhaps playing on his mind about getting injured again ?
Silly signing anyway, we are not a mega bucks rich football club who can afford to speculate by buying quite badly injured players and HOPE they get over those injuries and be as good as they were pre-injury. We did the same thing when signing Jamie Sendles-White who was in recovery for an ACL knee injury, again did not work out well. Go out and buy fit players who are up and running to play straight away, not buy in players who are months away from getting match fit.
RedDwarf 1881
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 12474
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:06 am
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 2555 times

Re: Ebbsfleet Having a Clearout of Contracted Players

Post by RedDwarf 1881 »

Sid Bishop wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 2:39 pm
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 1:24 pm
Blaming Gorman for being sh*t in April 2020 because he missed July 2019 pre season is ridiculous. Pre season is all about fitness, that’s it. And the amount of time Dale has been back in training, there’s no excuse for fitness being an issue at all.

Lack of match sharpness because of no game time is a different matter and it’s a fair point. But as others have said, the likes of Happe and Marvin have both been dropped in and consistently delivered.

Still think there’s a player in there and really hope he can home good but the reason he hasn’t as yet is not because he’s unfit.
All valid points. I just wonder if Gorman's ankle injury proved to be worse than it was thought to be at the time of his signing ?
When I watch him play he sometimes seems to pull out of tackles, perhaps playing on his mind about getting injured again ?
Silly signing anyway, we are not a mega bucks rich football club who can afford to speculate by buying quite badly injured players and HOPE they get over those injuries and be as good as they were pre-injury. We did the same thing when signing Jamie Sendles-White who was in recovery for an ACL knee injury, again did not work out well. Go out and buy fit players who are up and running to play straight away, not buy in players who are months away from getting match fit.
Don't forget Teddy Mezague as well. We've tried it and it didn't work out so hopefully we don't make this same mistake again.
User avatar
EliotNes
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 10632
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:14 pm
Location: Retired (4182)
Has thanked: 2025 times
Been thanked: 876 times

Re: Ebbsfleet Having a Clearout of Contracted Players

Post by EliotNes »

And when ML brought in Sam Parkin all those years ago I seem to remember him saying needed to get match fit after his injury
A Pedant
Fresh Alias
Posts: 541
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:24 pm
Has thanked: 186 times
Been thanked: 172 times

Re: Ebbsfleet Having a Clearout of Contracted Players

Post by A Pedant »

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 1:24 pm Blaming Gorman for being sh*t in April 2020 because he missed July 2019 pre season is ridiculous.
He's going to be injured this coming summer too? :)
Redcard
Fresh Alias
Posts: 881
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:18 pm
Has thanked: 48 times
Been thanked: 186 times

Re: Ebbsfleet Having a Clearout of Contracted Players

Post by Redcard »

I’ve no idea how Adams has been performing at ebsfleet but based on his time with us I would be pleased with his return.
The one occasion I did see him against us he was played as an attacking midfielder and not in a defensive ball winning role which he excelled at.
User avatar
ComeOnYouOs
Regular
Regular
Posts: 3841
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:22 pm
Awards: Colossal berk
Has thanked: 79 times
Been thanked: 1054 times

Re: Ebbsfleet Having a Clearout of Contracted Players

Post by ComeOnYouOs »

Sid Bishop wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 2:39 pm
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 1:24 pm
Blaming Gorman for being sh*t in April 2020 because he missed July 2019 pre season is ridiculous. Pre season is all about fitness, that’s it. And the amount of time Dale has been back in training, there’s no excuse for fitness being an issue at all.

Lack of match sharpness because of no game time is a different matter and it’s a fair point. But as others have said, the likes of Happe and Marvin have both been dropped in and consistently delivered.

Still think there’s a player in there and really hope he can home good but the reason he hasn’t as yet is not because he’s unfit.
All valid points. I just wonder if Gorman's ankle injury proved to be worse than it was thought to be at the time of his signing ?
When I watch him play he sometimes seems to pull out of tackles, perhaps playing on his mind about getting injured again ?
Silly signing anyway, we are not a mega bucks rich football club who can afford to speculate by buying quite badly injured players and HOPE they get over those injuries and be as good as they were pre-injury. We did the same thing when signing Jamie Sendles-White who was in recovery for an ACL knee injury, again did not work out well. Go out and buy fit players who are up and running to play straight away, not buy in players who are months away from getting match fit.
100% agree with you Sid
Sid Bishop
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 5943
Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:12 am
Has thanked: 5568 times
Been thanked: 1066 times

Re: Ebbsfleet Having a Clearout of Contracted Players

Post by Sid Bishop »

Redcard wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 9:14 am I’ve no idea how Adams has been performing at ebsfleet but based on his time with us I would be pleased with his return.
The one occasion I did see him against us he was played as an attacking midfielder and not in a defensive ball winning role which he excelled at.
Exactly, wonder why so many football clubs do this, sign a player on who has been playing well in a certain position and role, then put them in a different position and role and then wonder as to why they are not playing so well ? Yes some players ARE adaptable and enjoy playing in varied roles, but Adams played so well in a central holding midfield role, so surely a case of leaving the lad well alone and letting him play in the position where he is best suited, something Ebbsfleet did NOT do !
User avatar
F*ck The Poor & Fat
Regular
Regular
Posts: 3101
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:12 am
Has thanked: 238 times
Been thanked: 380 times

Re: Ebbsfleet Having a Clearout of Contracted Players

Post by F*ck The Poor & Fat »

Sid Bishop wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 10:39 am
Redcard wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 9:14 am I’ve no idea how Adams has been performing at ebsfleet but based on his time with us I would be pleased with his return.
The one occasion I did see him against us he was played as an attacking midfielder and not in a defensive ball winning role which he excelled at.
Exactly, wonder why so many football clubs do this, sign a player on who has been playing well in a certain position and role, then put them in a different position and role and then wonder as to why they are not playing so well ? Yes some players ARE adaptable and enjoy playing in varied roles, but Adams played so well in a central holding midfield role, so surely a case of leaving the lad well alone and letting him play in the position where he is best suited, something Ebbsfleet did NOT do !
That seems to be the case Sid. Even in the early games he was only getting an hour before being subbed. All very odd.
Post Reply