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Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:31 pm
by Kevash
Was wondering with redevelopment of hare and hounds and changing of restrictions around ground,do Waltham Forest Council actually want a football team in the Borough?
I think Walthamstow are top of Essex senior,but how far could they go without any support from the council.
Orient must surely be a bonus to the Leyton economy and fans must spend in the area around the ground.
Why seem hellbent on making it hard for them to attend matches.
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:34 pm
by gshaw
The planners would much likely prefer the kind of development of the SCORE centre site instead of our ground, didn't even feel that long ago that centre itself was new and shiny
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:42 pm
by whittle76
We never should have left Hackney!
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:58 pm
by Long slender neck
The council have residents to consider. The road on the north side of the ground is just mental, cars parked along both sides. There is not much excuse to travel by car. If you do, don't expect to park for free at the expense of residents.
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:04 pm
by faith1234
What about rebuilding the old Leyton fc ground lee bridge road
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:13 pm
by Chocolate_brownie
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:58 pm
The council have residents to consider. The road on the north side of the ground is just mental, cars parked along both sides. There is not much excuse to travel by car. If you do, don't expect to park for free at the expense of residents.
Exactly. It’s hardly like Brisbane Road is one of these out of town modern grounds. There are plenty of public transport options.
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:21 pm
by Long slender neck
How much of a benefit to the local economy are fans? And should the council care?
Its a few thousand extra people visiting around once a fortnight. Lets assume an average spend of £5 per fan in the local economy. £5 x 5000 x 25 = £625000. Its not a huge amount. Should the council care?
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:05 pm
by Cheshunto
We spend around £50-60 per home game in the Lion and Key, and on occasions like the recent Carlisle game it was packed out with their fans and quite a few of ours..
This is a business that would definitely lose out in my opinion.
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:06 pm
by aylesburyos
The Council do care & lovehavin O's in Leyton. They will help should we want to get involved at New Spitalfields when the market moves to Dagenham
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:03 am
by tuffers#1
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:21 pm
How much of a benefit to the local economy are fans? And should the council care?
Its a few thousand extra people visiting around once a fortnight. Lets assume an average spend of £5 per fan in the local economy. £5 x 5000 x 25 = £625000. Its not a huge amount. Should the council care?
council tax every year from lofc & The buisnesses who enjoy the boost every other week that bumps there annual profit .
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:49 am
by Long slender neck
Profit?
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:57 am
by CEB
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:21 pm
How much of a benefit to the local economy are fans? And should the council care?
Its a few thousand extra people visiting around once a fortnight. Lets assume an average spend of £5 per fan in the local economy. £5 x 5000 x 25 = £625000. Its not a huge amount. Should the council care?
Why would you assume £5 as the average? If we assume that most adults will have some amount of food and an alcoholic drink or two during their day, than that’s more like £15 for those who do that, so you’d need a lot of people spending a lot less than a fiver to get the average down. Yours, CEB, statsmaster
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:21 am
by Mistadobalina
Kevash wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:31 pm
Was wondering with redevelopment of hare and hounds and changing of restrictions around ground,do Waltham Forest Council actually want a football team in the Borough?
I think Walthamstow are top of Essex senior,but how far could they go without any support from the council.
Orient must surely be a bonus to the Leyton economy and fans must spend in the area around the ground.
Why seem hellbent on making it hard for them to attend matches.
The ownership have been very positive about the relationship they have with the council no?
The club is a 5 minute walk from a tube station that is only 1 stop away from Stratford and a few more from Liverpool Street. Vast majority of people should be able to get to the ground without a car.
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:29 am
by Long slender neck
CEB wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:57 am
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:21 pm
How much of a benefit to the local economy are fans? And should the council care?
Its a few thousand extra people visiting around once a fortnight. Lets assume an average spend of £5 per fan in the local economy. £5 x 5000 x 25 = £625000. Its not a huge amount. Should the council care?
Why would you assume £5 as the average? If we assume that most adults will have some amount of food and an alcoholic drink or two during their day, than that’s more like £15 for those who do that, so you’d need a lot of people spending a lot less than a fiver to get the average down. Yours, CEB, statsmaster
Some wont spend anything, some arent adults. Its just a guess.
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:32 am
by CEB
Right - but because you’ve extrapolated from your guess a figure of £625,000, using that as the thrust of the question “should the council care?”, it’s entirely possible that the average could in fact just as easily be five or ten times that, no?
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:54 pm
by LeighO
Ok,let’s do a quick tot up.
For me it’s nothing on a Saturday and about a tenner for a mid week game.
Anyone else?
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:12 pm
by tuffers#1
Buisnesses aim to make profit
Some make bigger profits due to LOFC home games
Its a simple concept
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:57 pm
by faith1234
Would people like to move or stay where we are any thoughts
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:13 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Don't the council own the freehold on the ground or something like that?
If they weren't keen they could bin us off
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:13 pm
by Long slender neck
Replacing the ground with flats would probably provide greater benefit to the local economy and council.
Re: Do Council want us in borough
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:13 pm
by Lifelongfan
WF Council are very keen on having a club & don't want us going anywhere. Would many people (outside of E London/Essex) know of Leyton if there was no football club?