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Re: Migrants crossing the channel

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Starting to think that the Tories intentionally bungle handling the asylum system in order to keep it as a live 'wedge' issue that they can attack labour on. All of the steps you'd take to actually tackling the problem - staffing the home office with enough people to process applications in a timely manner and keeping tracks on arrivals, reaching agreements with other countries such as Albania on returning citizens who's applications have been turned down, working effectively with the French - they refuse to do. Instead they float purposefully crackers and hateful schemes like the Rwanda idea, despite the massive cost and likely ineffectiveness of it, because it winds up the wokerati.

They've been in charge for 12 years and it has actively gotten much worse in that time. We were receiving far higher numbers of applications in the 2000s and rejecting something like 80%, so actually getting on top of whether the applications were deemed legitimate.
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It's got to be deliberate. They know that they're facing a spanking at the next election unless they can throw another issue into the electorate's calculus that counteracts their economic mismanagement. And it may just work for them.
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Dunners wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:30 pm It's got to be deliberate. They know that they're facing a spanking at the next election unless they can throw another issue into the electorate's calculus that counteracts their economic mismanagement. And it may just work for them.
Course it is. Been that way for a long long time. Happily aided by Rothermere and Murdoch....
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i bet foreigners dont even like biscuits
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Of course asylum applications should not be taking months/years as i suspect they do.

The Tories will blame woke lawyers/human rights for that.
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Mistadobalina wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:51 am Starting to think that the Tories intentionally bungle handling the asylum system in order to keep it as a live 'wedge' issue that they can attack labour on. All of the steps you'd take to actually tackling the problem - staffing the home office with enough people to process applications in a timely manner and keeping tracks on arrivals, reaching agreements with other countries such as Albania on returning citizens who's applications have been turned down, working effectively with the French - they refuse to do. Instead they float purposefully crackers and hateful schemes like the Rwanda idea, despite the massive cost and likely ineffectiveness of it, because it winds up the wokerati.

They've been in charge for 12 years and it has actively gotten much worse in that time. We were receiving far higher numbers of applications in the 2000s and rejecting something like 80%, so actually getting on top of whether the applications were deemed legitimate.
They’re not doing it to wind up the wokerati, although that’s a nice side effect. They’re doing it to appeal to the racialists.
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12 migrants left in London.
taken to a nice hotel to stay nice and warm.
on the way there they are told just step over people sleeping
under cardboard we are only interested in you people f... the rest.
all people count who need somewhere to sleep safely and warm.
or dont they.
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greyhound wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:18 pm 12 migrants left in London.
taken to a nice hotel to stay nice and warm.
on the way there they are told just step over people sleeping
under cardboard we are only interested in you people f... the rest.
all people count who need somewhere to sleep safely and warm.
or dont they.
Well since they were abandoned in London by the Home Office and a charity that specifically helps refugees and asylum seekers ended up getting wind of the situation...that's probably why they prioritised them. Just a hunch.

Have you ever lobbied your MP about why the Government doesn't do more to help the homeless, by the way? Or do you only give a monkeys about people sleeping on the street when it neatly segues in to having a go at foreigners?
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Weird that you’ve gone after greyhounds ill thought out post, whilst conveniently ignoring dodgy comment after dodgy comment from your fellow mod….
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If anyone needs to know some specifics , they can always ask me . I Think i am the most recent homeless person on here
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TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am Weird that you’ve gone after greyhounds ill thought out post, whilst conveniently ignoring dodgy comment after dodgy comment from your fellow mod….
Which dodgy comment?
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Proposition Joe wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:34 pm
greyhound wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:18 pm 12 migrants left in London.
taken to a nice hotel to stay nice and warm.
on the way there they are told just step over people sleeping
under cardboard we are only interested in you people f... the rest.
all people count who need somewhere to sleep safely and warm.
or dont they.
Well since they were abandoned in London by the Home Office and a charity that specifically helps refugees and asylum seekers ended up getting wind of the situation...that's probably why they prioritised them. Just a hunch.

Have you ever lobbied your MP about why the Government doesn't do more to help the homeless, by the way? Or do you only give a monkeys about people sleeping on the street when it neatly segues in to having a go at foreigners?
have you.
actually my daughter lives in brook mans prk.
if you go down to the brook mans pub you will meet Grant Shapps mp.
I have spoken to him a couple of times about many things.
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It shouldn't be harder for the homeless to get housed than asylum seekers or migrants. But i believe many people on the streets do not want to be housed.
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LSN said "It shouldn't be harder for the homeless to get housed than asylum seekers or migrants. But i believe many people on the streets do not want to be housed."

I say yet another very dodgy comment from a moderator !
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Friend or faux wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:10 am LSN said "It shouldn't be harder for the homeless to get housed than asylum seekers or migrants. But i believe many people on the streets do not want to be housed."

I say yet another very dodgy comment from a moderator !
I think moderators should stand to be come MPS
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Friend or faux wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:10 am LSN said "It shouldn't be harder for the homeless to get housed than asylum seekers or migrants. But i believe many people on the streets do not want to be housed."

I say yet another very dodgy comment from a moderator !
Whats dodgy about that?
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https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrLAwS ... _SibojUHM-

this is gratitude for you over a power cut.
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greyhound wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:49 am
Proposition Joe wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:34 pm
greyhound wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:18 pm 12 migrants left in London.
taken to a nice hotel to stay nice and warm.
on the way there they are told just step over people sleeping
under cardboard we are only interested in you people f... the rest.
all people count who need somewhere to sleep safely and warm.
or dont they.
Well since they were abandoned in London by the Home Office and a charity that specifically helps refugees and asylum seekers ended up getting wind of the situation...that's probably why they prioritised them. Just a hunch.

Have you ever lobbied your MP about why the Government doesn't do more to help the homeless, by the way? Or do you only give a monkeys about people sleeping on the street when it neatly segues in to having a go at foreigners?
have you.
actually my daughter lives in brook mans prk.
if you go down to the brook mans pub you will meet Grant Shapps mp.
I have spoken to him a couple of times about many things.
Did you check your wallet afterwards?
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Friend or faux wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:10 am LSN said "It shouldn't be harder for the homeless to get housed than asylum seekers or migrants. But i believe many people on the streets do not want to be housed."

I say yet another very dodgy comment from a moderator !
It isnt harder for homeless people to be rehomed than assylum seekers . There are homeless people on the streets who dont want the responsibility of living there lives under pressure of bills & rent & whatever demons they have going on .
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greyhound wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:43 am https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrLAwS ... _SibojUHM-

this is gratitude for you over a power cut.
gratitude for a bed at a deportation centre manned by HMP staff ?
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greyhound wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:49 am
Proposition Joe wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:34 pm
greyhound wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:18 pm 12 migrants left in London.
taken to a nice hotel to stay nice and warm.
on the way there they are told just step over people sleeping
under cardboard we are only interested in you people f... the rest.
all people count who need somewhere to sleep safely and warm.
or dont they.
Well since they were abandoned in London by the Home Office and a charity that specifically helps refugees and asylum seekers ended up getting wind of the situation...that's probably why they prioritised them. Just a hunch.

Have you ever lobbied your MP about why the Government doesn't do more to help the homeless, by the way? Or do you only give a monkeys about people sleeping on the street when it neatly segues in to having a go at foreigners?
have you.
actually my daughter lives in brook mans prk.
if you go down to the brook mans pub you will meet Grant Shapps mp.
I have spoken to him a couple of times about many things.
..interesting greyhound, although I'm not keen on Shapps.
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Neither are all the poor punters who invested in his pyramid scam.
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Schapps ? Are we sure thats his name ?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-63526659

The firebombing of an immigration processing centre was motivated by extreme right-wing terrorist ideology, police have said.

Andrew Leak, 66, from High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, threw up to three incendiary devices at the site in Dover, Kent, last Sunday.
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BoniO wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:03 am
greyhound wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:49 am
Proposition Joe wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:34 pm

Well since they were abandoned in London by the Home Office and a charity that specifically helps refugees and asylum seekers ended up getting wind of the situation...that's probably why they prioritised them. Just a hunch.

Have you ever lobbied your MP about why the Government doesn't do more to help the homeless, by the way? Or do you only give a monkeys about people sleeping on the street when it neatly segues in to having a go at foreigners?
have you.
actually my daughter lives in brook mans prk.
if you go down to the brook mans pub you will meet Grant Shapps mp.
I have spoken to him a couple of times about many things.
Did you check your wallet afterwards?
actually the first time I to the bar to get around
my daughter started laughing I said what are you laughing for
she said because you only have £40 in your hand.
she was right cost £75 knicker.
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