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Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:43 am
by Bergen
Are we entitled to a transfer fee for him if he signs for another club this summer?

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:45 am
by The Mindsweep
No, he is a free agent

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:49 am
by Bergen
He is still only 22 years old, isn`t there some rule for players under 23?

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:49 am
by Long slender neck
Good player to have in the squad, doubt hed be first choice now though.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:52 am
by KVN
I thought so and isnt it under 24's

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:56 am
by BiggsyMalone
Club has ruined his career.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:02 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Bergen wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:43 am Are we entitled to a transfer fee for him if he signs for another club this summer?
Yes, well not exactly, we got compensation so long as we also offer a contract

Sadly it's usually only a nominal fee at this level

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:05 pm
by Bergen
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:02 pm
Bergen wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:43 am Are we entitled to a transfer fee for him if he signs for another club this summer?
Yes, well not exactly, we got compensation so long as we also offer a contract
Sadly it's usually only a nominal fee at this level
Thanks. That`s what I thought.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:07 pm
by Max B Gold
Can I be honest?

Yes?

Ok. Can I say I didn't really rate him. Soz.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:10 pm
by Max B Gold
Bergen wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:05 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:02 pm
Bergen wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:43 am Are we entitled to a transfer fee for him if he signs for another club this summer?
Yes, well not exactly, we got compensation so long as we also offer a contract
Sadly it's usually only a nominal fee at this level
Thanks. That`s what I thought.
This week Alan Campbell of Motherwell, also an Academy graduate, left to join Luton Town.

Apparently Motherwell have reduced the compensation fee in exchange for a percentage of any sell on fee. Looks like there's some flexibility in agreeing the level of compensation.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:28 pm
by BIGRON
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:07 pm Can I be honest?

Yes?

Ok. Can I say I didn't really rate him. Soz.
I wouldn't really miss him either , vastly overrated in my opinion .

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:34 pm
by LittleMate
BiggsyMalone wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:56 am Club has ruined his career.
Stupid statement.

Happe has played below the standard expected of him last season. He's not a kid anymore - there are 8 players in the England squad younger than him - and he needs to be a bit more responsible for his actions. Judging by the new signings, his best hopes of playing consistently are to start playing up to the level expected of him; injury or 3 centre backs.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:11 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:07 pm Can I be honest?

Yes?

Ok. Can I say I didn't really rate him. Soz.
I thought you were a fan of his crossfield blasteroonies?

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:12 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
BiggsyMalone wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:56 am Club has ruined his career.
In what way?

The manager debacle these past 2 years?

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:43 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Maintained throughout that Happe was a decent prospect but that I couldn’t see him playing above league one. Championship at a push but the premier league talk was alway rubbish. People were easily led by his good form when he came into the squad.

That said, he still has time to reach his potential and I’d be Happe if we re signed him.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:51 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:12 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:56 am Club has ruined his career.
In what way?

The manager debacle these past 2 years?
Yeah and coaches.

Under Justin, he was looking really promising and had Coulson next to him to offer experience and learning. It isn’t just him, a few talented players have stalled over the last 18 months.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:57 pm
by BiggsyMalone
LittleMate wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:34 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:56 am Club has ruined his career.
Stupid statement.

Happe has played below the standard expected of him last season. He's not a kid anymore - there are 8 players in the England squad younger than him - and he needs to be a bit more responsible for his actions. Judging by the new signings, his best hopes of playing consistently are to start playing up to the level expected of him; injury or 3 centre backs.
He isn’t an experienced player in his prime either. He’s still progressing and learning. Those 8 players have been playing at a high level and brought through slowly by their clubs. Some have gone on loan. He was forced into being the main man and leading a defence consisting of Sam Ling, Akinola and James Brophy.

Everyone played below the standard required because the club didn’t have a good coaching setup.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:06 pm
by Monkey Boy
Happe lacks pace and often gets caught on the wrong side of attackers thus giving pens away, he needs to improve on his positional side of the game,something that Embleton should have worked on,however it wouldn’t be the end of the world if he was to go and the club got a fee for him IMO🙈

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:51 pm
by Max B Gold
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:11 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:07 pm Can I be honest?

Yes?

Ok. Can I say I didn't really rate him. Soz.
I thought you were a fan of his crossfield blasteroonies?
The one thing he did well but wasn't required.

Were they crossfield? I thought they fell more into the category of upfield punts.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:12 pm
by Kitch’s Magic Toes
Glad he’s no longer one of our top two CBs. Do wonder if Jackett is going to switch to a back three, mind.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:16 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:12 pm Glad he’s no longer one of our top two CBs. Do wonder if Jackett is going to switch to a back three, mind.
How do you know he's no longer one of our top two centre backs?

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:26 pm
by Kitch’s Magic Toes
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:16 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:12 pm Glad he’s no longer one of our top two CBs. Do wonder if Jackett is going to switch to a back three, mind.
How do you know he's no longer one of our top two centre backs?
Because Beckles and Thompson are both better than him.

KMT

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:09 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:26 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:16 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:12 pm Glad he’s no longer one of our top two CBs. Do wonder if Jackett is going to switch to a back three, mind.
How do you know he's no longer one of our top two centre backs?
Because Beckles and Thompson are both better than him.

KMT
No!!! This is your personal opinion, not a fact.

For a start nobody knows how and even if Thompson is going to recover from very serious injuries, so how can you say he's better than Happe?

Thompson may not be fit for the start of the season, and Happe will play. If he does well, he'll keep the shirt.
Don't give your opinion and tell me it's fact. It isn't.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:56 pm
by LittleMate
BiggsyMalone wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:57 pm
LittleMate wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:34 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:56 am Club has ruined his career.
Stupid statement.

Happe has played below the standard expected of him last season. He's not a kid anymore - there are 8 players in the England squad younger than him - and he needs to be a bit more responsible for his actions. Judging by the new signings, his best hopes of playing consistently are to start playing up to the level expected of him; injury or 3 centre backs.
He isn’t an experienced player in his prime either. He’s still progressing and learning. Those 8 players have been playing at a high level and brought through slowly by their clubs. Some have gone on loan. He was forced into being the main man and leading a defence consisting of Sam Ling, Akinola and James Brophy.

Everyone played below the standard required because the club didn’t have a good coaching setup.
Of course he's still learning - but last year he went backwards and has now clocked up over pro 100 games. Some players never make it to that number. He could do with premier league coaching but he's not premier league standard. Its easy to blame the setup but given the number of games played and the mistakes made, he needs to look at himself more.

Re: Dan Happe

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:16 pm
by Story of O
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:09 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:26 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:16 pm

How do you know he's no longer one of our top two centre backs?
Because Beckles and Thompson are both better than him.

KMT
No!!! This is your personal opinion, not a fact.

For a start nobody knows how and even if Thompson is going to recover from very serious injuries, so how can you say he's better than Happe?

Thompson may not be fit for the start of the season, and Happe will play. If he does well, he'll keep the shirt.
Don't give your opinion and tell me it's fact. It isn't.
And that is your personal opinion not a fact