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Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:44 pm**

My thoughts on tonight
Vigouroux 7 ( not much else to say, great keeper )
Ling 7 ( Best game all season , )
Akinola 7.5 ( very solid )
Thompson 7.5 MOM ( Just nicks MOM for me 1st game in & played well)
Brophy 7 ( another solid defensive display )
Freeman 7 ( Potential for much much more )
Kyprianou 5 ( 2 points off for the sending off , harsh as it maybe )
Clay 7.5 ( would have been MOM if not for Thomoson being so solid on debut)
Wilkinson 7 ( got amongst it & certainly got stuck into number 44 )
Sotiriou 6.5 ( half point off , hope the injury isnt serious )
Kemp 6.5 ( Played well enough , just looks so small)

Subs

Abrahams 6.5 ( did well enough considering we were down to 10 men )

Jobi not on long enough
Joe W not on long enough

Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:50 pm**

Best performance of the season - Freeman is awesome.

Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:56 pm**

All the lads put in a real shift
10 v 12
Well done to the o’s

Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:11 pm**

PKM wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:56 pm All the lads put in a real shift
10 v 12
Well done to the o’s

Freeman caught me eye when he contributed towards a very good goal scoring chance on Saturday when he came on as a sub, which ended up with a terrible way over the bar miss from Wilko.

Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:12 pm**

I think it was a great result, a good run now could get us promoted

Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:16 pm**

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:11 pm
PKM wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:56 pm All the lads put in a real shift
10 v 12
Well done to the o’s
Freeman caught me eye when he contributed towards a very good goal scoring chance on Saturday when he came on as a sub, which ended up with a terrible way over the bar miss from Wilko.

gshaw said that wasn't on target so doesnt count as a good chance

Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:33 pm**

Gritty performance with a lot of positives and, unfortunately some negatives.

Positives:
Freeman looks as though he's going to have a big influence
Thompson looks solid
Kemp could contribute when he finally gets to play 90 minutes in his correct position
Given the way we set up in the 2nd half we came away with a well earned point

Negatives:
Losing Kyprianou for a couple of games, he was playing really well before the (deserved) red card
Embleton deciding to play 4-5-0 for the whole second half even though we had two attackers on the pitch. If all you do is welly it up the pitch with that formation it comes straight back at you. We got lucky with so many crosses coming in

Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:38 pm**

jamespevans wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:33 pm Gritty performance with a lot of positives and, unfortunately some negatives.

Positives:
Freeman looks as though he's going to have a big influence
Thompson looks solid
Kemp could contribute when he finally gets to play 90 minutes in his correct position
Given the way we set up in the 2nd half we came away with a well earned point

Negatives:
Losing Kyprianou for a couple of games, he was playing really well before the (deserved) red card
Embleton deciding to play 4-5-0 for the whole second half even though we had two attackers on the pitch. If all you do is welly it up the pitch with that formation it comes straight back at you. We got lucky with so many crosses coming in

Strange that you mentioned all the newbies other than Abrahams. I thought he was very disciplined and put in a real decent shift down that left hand side. He’s much better suited to that wide man role than Ruel.

Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:40 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:44 pm
Kyprianou 5 ( 2 points off for the sending off , harsh as it maybe )

Sotiriou 6.5 ( half point off , hope the injury isnt serious )

Whilst I disagree, I can understand the rationale of deducting points for being red carded.

But deducting points for getting clobbered is proper

Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:47 pm**

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:40 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:44 pm
Kyprianou 5 ( 2 points off for the sending off , harsh as it maybe )

Sotiriou 6.5 ( half point off , hope the injury isnt serious )

Whilst I disagree, I can understand the rationale of deducting points for being red carded.

But deducting points for getting clobbered is proper

I deducted a half point for Ruel & Tristan because they didnt play a full 90 minutes .
If either had been on for a full 90 they would have got a 7 minimum .

Its how a points scoring system works fairly , why would Tris or Ruel deserve
more than someone who played the whole game ?

I really struggle to see the understanding of Football that you claim to have .

Posted: **Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:49 pm**

Didn’t realise your scores were time apportioned, that makes sense to adjust them for length of time on the pitch.

You should also consider adjusting them for the amount of involvement a player has in the game.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:18 am**

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:16 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:11 pm
PKM wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:56 pm All the lads put in a real shift
10 v 12
Well done to the o’s
Freeman caught me eye when he contributed towards a very good goal scoring chance on Saturday when he came on as a sub, which ended up with a terrible way over the bar miss from Wilko.
gshaw said that wasn't on target so doesnt count as a good chance

Are you trying to be funny ?

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:13 am**

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:18 am
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:16 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:11 pm

Freeman caught me eye when he contributed towards a very good goal scoring chance on Saturday when he came on as a sub, which ended up with a terrible way over the bar miss from Wilko.
gshaw said that wasn't on target so doesnt count as a good chance
Are you trying to be funny ?

He wasn't trying,
Made me Chuckle .

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:18 am**

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:49 pm Didn’t realise your scores were time apportioned, that makes sense to adjust them for length of time on the pitch.

You should also consider adjusting them for the amount of involvement a player has in the game.

I did ,
You must have missed it .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:44 pm My thoughts on tonight
Vigouroux 7 ( not much else to say, great keeper )
Ling 7 ( Best game all season , )
Akinola 7.5 ( very solid )
Thompson 7.5 MOM ( Just nicks MOM for me 1st game in & played well)
Brophy 7 ( another solid defensive display )
Freeman 7 ( Potential for much much more )
Kyprianou 5 ( 2 points off for the sending off , harsh as it maybe )
Clay 7.5 ( would have been MOM if not for Thomoson being so solid on debut)
Wilkinson 7 ( got amongst it & certainly got stuck into number 44 )
Sotiriou 6.5 ( half point off , hope the injury isnt serious )
Kemp 6.5 ( Played well enough , just looks so small)

Subs

Abrahams 6.5 ( did well enough considering we were down to 10 men )

Jobi not on long enough
Joe W not on long enough

Here you go peruse it at your leisure

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:16 am**

PKM wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:56 pm All the lads put in a real shift
10 v 12
Well done to the o’s

Josh Wright played for them, surely it was 11 v 11 after Hector was sent off

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:49 am**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:44 pm My thoughts on tonight
Vigouroux 7 ( not much else to say, great keeper )
Ling 7 ( Best game all season , )
Akinola 7.5 ( very solid )
Thompson 7.5 MOM ( Just nicks MOM for me 1st game in & played well)
Brophy 7 ( another solid defensive display )
Freeman 7 ( Potential for much much more )
Kyprianou 5 ( 2 points off for the sending off , harsh as it maybe )
Clay 7.5 ( would have been MOM if not for Thomoson being so solid on debut)
Wilkinson 7 ( got amongst it & certainly got stuck into number 44 )
Sotiriou 6.5 ( half point off , hope the injury isnt serious )
Kemp 6.5 ( Played well enough , just looks so small)

Subs

Abrahams 6.5 ( did well enough considering we were down to 10 men )

Jobi not on long enough
Joe W not on long enough

Thanks Tuffers. All fair I reckon.
Sotiriou was causing them problems before he went off. Looks much better in his natural position.

Was very impressed with Thompson and Freeman: fair play to the board for bringing new players in, when, they 'could' have just sat on the squad, since we appear not in immediate danger of relegation.

It was a definite upturn on the sh*t-show at Bolton, anyway..

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:50 am**

Vigs 7
Ling 7
Brophy 7.5
Akinola 8 (hope we get him on a perm)
Thompson 7.5 (I saw a comment before the game, why is Thompson starting ahead of Turley

. Think that performance answered it)
Hector 6 (was playing so well until red card)
Clay 7.5
Freeman 8 (great debut, a real attacking force)
Kemp 7
Wilko 7
Sotiriou 6

Abrahams 7
McAnuff n/a
Widdowson n/a

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:51 am**

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:16 am
PKM wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:56 pm All the lads put in a real shift
10 v 12
Well done to the o’s
Josh Wright played for them, surely it was 11 v 11 after Hector was sent off

Wright had a lot of room after the sending off, and it was apparent what a show-boating fanny merchant he really is. An absolute nothing player: very pleased he's now gone.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:02 am**

Still buzzing from last night - so impressed with the new signings and the positive impact that they’ve had on the whole team. Expecting a very strong finish to the season.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:23 am**

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:02 am Still buzzing from last night - so impressed with the new signings and the positive impact that they’ve had on the whole team. Expecting a very strong finish to the season.

I really hope so. The club has said more than once to expect a strong second half of the season. Let’s hope this is the start.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:03 am**

80% positive last night. We should have been attacking more like we had to at Barrow when we were 1-0 down with 10 men (does anyone remember being 2-0 up against 10 men Shrewsbury and losing 3-2, we were chasing playoffs at the time, 20 years ago perhaps).

The new guys all did well so plenty of competition now. The ref seemed biased-Crawley had 18 fouls, one yellow card, us 14, 4 yellows, 1 red

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:29 am**

I am watching clay like a hawk Saturday because every week I miss what everyone else sees. Last night he gave away the penalty, ran around like a headless chicken and you want to give him MOM. There were at least 5 players better than him including Ling who I thought had a good game. The new signings look great. Building a very good team.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:08 am**

Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:51 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:16 am
PKM wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:56 pm All the lads put in a real shift
10 v 12
Well done to the o’s
Josh Wright played for them, surely it was 11 v 11 after Hector was sent off
Wright had a lot of room after the sending off, and it was apparent what a show-boating fanny merchant he really is. An absolute nothing player: very pleased he's now gone.

He had that much room he even passed forward once.
During the broadcast I'm sure heard that with Wright going Freeman was a like for like replacement. You couldn't be any further from the truth. Freeman is a huge improvement.

Posted: **Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:28 am**

Beradogs wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:29 am I am watching clay like a hawk Saturday because every week I miss what everyone else sees. Last night he gave away the penalty, ran around like a headless chicken and you want to give him MOM. There were at least 5 players better than him including Ling who I thought had a good game. The new signings look great. Building a very good team.

Thank God he did give away the penalty. After Ling misjudged the flight of the ball and missed the header, it would have been a definite goal.

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