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Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:51 am
by Oiram

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:05 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Dont know why they'd use an arbitrary 1000. Surely just reduce the % from 30% to something like 10%. It would mean Orient could have around 900-1000 which makes sense in terms of toilets but teams like Arsenal could have 6000, which again is sensible considering they have about 200 toilets!

I'd imagine the money the Premier League has, it wont really matter whats safe and what isn't, anyway.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:16 am
by BIGRON
Still not sure it will happen 🤔🤔

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:09 pm
by kokomO
Interesting that France are currently allowing crowds in for football & Racing events when their number is currently going through the roof..... 10'500 new cases on the 12th alone (compared to UK 3'500 on the same day) 🤷🏻‍♂️

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:15 pm
by Real Al
That letter only mentions 1000 during the pilot. Nothing apart from a Mail journalist's opinion imo.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:24 pm
by JimbO
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:05 am Dont know why they'd use an arbitrary 1000. Surely just reduce the % from 30% to something like 10%. It would mean Orient could have around 900-1000 which makes sense in terms of toilets but teams like Arsenal could have 6000, which again is sensible considering they have about 200 toilets!

I'd imagine the money the Premier League has, it wont really matter whats safe and what isn't, anyway.
Premier League Clubs have come out and said that it's currently not financially viable for them to open the grounds with numbers the government wants.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54121176

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:34 pm
by Cheshunto
JimbO wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:24 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:05 am Dont know why they'd use an arbitrary 1000. Surely just reduce the % from 30% to something like 10%. It would mean Orient could have around 900-1000 which makes sense in terms of toilets but teams like Arsenal could have 6000, which again is sensible considering they have about 200 toilets!

I'd imagine the money the Premier League has, it wont really matter whats safe and what isn't, anyway.
Premier League Clubs have come out and said that it's currently not financially viable for them to open the grounds with numbers the government wants.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54121176
Yes, but 1,000 could be viable for L2 clubs.
Gloucester v Harlequins last night was watched by 1,000 fans and I’ve been to Two Non League games already including the Bishops Stortford v Orient friendly .

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:44 pm
by Dohnut
Over our local academy Astro turf pitch Sunday. Doing the dog walking thing in the wide open spaces in the adjacent park. Noticed a Game going on, on the bank overlooking the pitch at least 200 spectators, probably many more. No social distancing, no masks. Car park full. One toilet area.

Still, Covid don’t exist in our town! Or people just don’t give a toss.

Bring back supporters when it’s safe. Irrespective of Government guidelines if I don’t feel comfortable going, I won’t.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:50 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
JimbO wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:24 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:05 am Dont know why they'd use an arbitrary 1000. Surely just reduce the % from 30% to something like 10%. It would mean Orient could have around 900-1000 which makes sense in terms of toilets but teams like Arsenal could have 6000, which again is sensible considering they have about 200 toilets!

I'd imagine the money the Premier League has, it wont really matter whats safe and what isn't, anyway.
Premier League Clubs have come out and said that it's currently not financially viable for them to open the grounds with numbers the government wants.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54121176
Poor them. Sums up the premier league. They are all making a profit from TV rights alone, god forbid they take a small hit to let the actual fans be at a game.

Wouldn't surprise me if streaming and TV is the way clubs prefer people to watch games going forward and they build smaller stadiums, with less costs, as a result.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:58 pm
by JimbO
was always gonna be the way that football would come back with fans from the bottom up.

In london the infrastructure can't cope with the amount of people at normal times let alone when social distancing is required.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:01 pm
by JimbO
personally would've thought that we'd need to have a least 500 fans in each stand to make it financially viable to open.

e.g 1,000 fans in only opening two sides of the ground whatever ones it may be.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:15 pm
by Story of O
Dohnut wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:44 pm Over our local academy Astro turf pitch Sunday. Doing the dog walking thing in the wide open spaces in the adjacent park. Noticed a Game going on, on the bank overlooking the pitch at least 200 spectators, probably many more. No social distancing, no masks. Car park full. One toilet area.

Still, Covid don’t exist in our town! Or people just don’t give a toss.

Bring back supporters when it’s safe. Irrespective of Government guidelines if I don’t feel comfortable going, I won’t.
Your choice, i will go back the moment they allow me too, and i won't be worried one bit.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:21 pm
by aylesburyos
increasing nos of fans attending matches in Poland and has been for the last 6 weeks or so

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:54 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Story of O wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:15 pm
Dohnut wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:44 pm Over our local academy Astro turf pitch Sunday. Doing the dog walking thing in the wide open spaces in the adjacent park. Noticed a Game going on, on the bank overlooking the pitch at least 200 spectators, probably many more. No social distancing, no masks. Car park full. One toilet area.

Still, Covid don’t exist in our town! Or people just don’t give a toss.

Bring back supporters when it’s safe. Irrespective of Government guidelines if I don’t feel comfortable going, I won’t.
Your choice, i will go back the moment they allow me too, and i won't be worried one bit.
Out of interest. why wont you be worried?

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:46 pm
by Dohnut
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:54 pm
Story of O wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:15 pm
Dohnut wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:44 pm Over our local academy Astro turf pitch Sunday. Doing the dog walking thing in the wide open spaces in the adjacent park. Noticed a Game going on, on the bank overlooking the pitch at least 200 spectators, probably many more. No social distancing, no masks. Car park full. One toilet area.

Still, Covid don’t exist in our town! Or people just don’t give a toss.

Bring back supporters when it’s safe. Irrespective of Government guidelines if I don’t feel comfortable going, I won’t.
Your choice, i will go back the moment they allow me too, and i won't be worried one bit.
Out of interest. why wont you be worried?
I was wondering that too. OK I travel by train and tube, added risk.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:13 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
I don't agree with this partial reopening.

It would be best to keep all grounds shut until we're happy to open them up fully and let everyone back in.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:17 pm
by Story of O
To be honest i have not been worried about catching it from the start. I know there is a risk, but there is risk of something everywhere i go.I ride a motorbike and i would think i am more at risk from that than Covid

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
That's nice.

Presumably others aren't at risk from you riding your motorbike tho?

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:25 pm
by Story of O
I follow all the rules and go about my life within those rules. I am just not going to worry about it.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:33 pm
by Oiram
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I don't agree with this partial reopening.

It would be best to keep all grounds shut until we're happy to open them up fully and let everyone back in.


Will be an administrative nightmare , many disgruntled fans, Lotto system criticised , even more so if we keep playing well and winning.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:41 pm
by JimbO
Just been e-mailed by the club asking if I want to go on the list to be in the ballot when the ground re-opens.

We could put down upto 6 names on it.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:42 pm
by Real Al
Story of O wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:25 pm I follow all the rules and go about my life within those rules. I am just not going to worry about it.
A motorcyclist that obeys the rules. Blimey.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:45 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Oiram wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:33 pm



Will be an administrative nightmare , many disgruntled fans, Lotto system criticised , even more so if we keep playing well and winning.
Agreed.

And you just know that 'certain' fans will come out of the lucky draw, as they always do.

This sounds like a ridiculous amount of administration, especially when you think it's likely the governments rules will change again and again.

Best to hold off until it's safe to let all of us fans in together.

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:18 pm
by Cheshunto
JimbO wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:41 pm Just been e-mailed by the club asking if I want to go on the list to be in the ballot when the ground re-opens.

We could put down upto 6 names on it.
Have you got 6 season tickets Jimbo ??
Just asking ‘cos we’ve got 2 and have applied for a 3rd which hasn’t been acknowledged or money taken.
Does this mean we can only put 2 names down ??

Re: Supporters allowed back in from October?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:26 pm
by JimbO
no we have four and a friend who is and asked to come in our bubble and sits near me.

So we put down 5.