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As from Monday us old bastards with an elderly persons freedom pass will have to pay for our journey before 9am ( no change at weekends ), the same applys to over 60s oyster card holders ☹☹

That should always have been the case IMO.

Shouldn't be going on the tube during rush hour anyway tbh given the risk of infection.

I have a 9am appointment at Barts on Monday so it's public transport or a cab for me

Welcome back to the Twerlies

BIGRON wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:19 pm I have a 9am appointment at Barts on Monday so it's public transport or a cab for me

Get a cab if you can afford it Ron, hope it goes well

What do you expect from a Tory government?

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:37 pm That should always have been the case IMO.

Seeing as you dislike old people, why am i not surprised by this?

he does doesent he...wonder why?

Didn't it used to be after 9.30am for OAPs? On the buses I remember Robbie Vincent on LBC used to refer to them as the "Twirlies" ("Am I too early?")

faldO wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:38 pm Didn't it used to be after 9.30am for OAPs? On the buses I remember Robbie Vincent on LBC used to refer to them as the "Twirlies" ("Am I too early?")

Indeed it did and not after 16.00 during the rush hour either.
No need for the olds to be using it for gadding about when workers are travelling.

Old Lives Matter.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:56 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:37 pm That should always have been the case IMO.

Seeing as you dislike old people, why am i not surprised by this?

It's nothing to do with a dislike of old people and everything due to travel demand during peak times. Having people travelling for free during these times and potentially resulting in some paying customers not being able to board trains or even get a seat isn't right if you think about it.

maybe then have some medical exemption where the person in questions shows a member of staff their appointment card and they can then board the service.

JimbO wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:42 am maybe then have some medical exemption where the person in questions shows a member of staff their appointment card and they can then board the service.

Member of staff? Where are they?

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:56 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:56 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:37 pm That should always have been the case IMO.

Seeing as you dislike old people, why am i not surprised by this?

It's nothing to do with a dislike of old people and everything due to travel demand during peak times. Having people travelling for free during these times and potentially resulting in some paying customers not being able to board trains or even get a seat isn't right if you think about it.

That's not the fault of the oldies. It's down to a lack of adequate infrastructure or looked at another way an overheated London economy which enjoys an inappropriate share of the country's resources which should be more equally shared with the rest of the country to alleviate the pressure on the capital.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:02 am

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:56 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:56 pm
Seeing as you dislike old people, why am i not surprised by this?

It's nothing to do with a dislike of old people and everything due to travel demand during peak times. Having people travelling for free during these times and potentially resulting in some paying customers not being able to board trains or even get a seat isn't right if you think about it.

That's not the fault of the oldies. It's down to a lack of adequate infrastructure or looked at another way an overheated London economy which enjoys an inappropriate share of the country's resources which should be more equally shared with the rest of the country to alleviate the pressure on the capital.

That’s where all the money is fella.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:02 am

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:56 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:56 pm
Seeing as you dislike old people, why am i not surprised by this?

It's nothing to do with a dislike of old people and everything due to travel demand during peak times. Having people travelling for free during these times and potentially resulting in some paying customers not being able to board trains or even get a seat isn't right if you think about it.

That's not the fault of the oldies. It's down to a lack of adequate infrastructure or looked at another way an overheated London economy which enjoys an inappropriate share of the country's resources which should be more equally shared with the rest of the country to alleviate the pressure on the capital.

You're right that it's not the fault of the oldies. But if they are going to get free travel because they are old then this should at least be restricted to outside of the windows when the most paying customers are using the system.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:09 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:02 am

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:56 pm

It's nothing to do with a dislike of old people and everything due to travel demand during peak times. Having people travelling for free during these times and potentially resulting in some paying customers not being able to board trains or even get a seat isn't right if you think about it.

That's not the fault of the oldies. It's down to a lack of adequate infrastructure or looked at another way an overheated London economy which enjoys an inappropriate share of the country's resources which should be more equally shared with the rest of the country to alleviate the pressure on the capital.

You're right that it's not the fault of the oldies. But if they are going to get free travel because they are old then this should at least be restricted to outside of the windows when the most paying customers are using the system.

So you do dislike old people.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:13 am

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:09 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:02 am

That's not the fault of the oldies. It's down to a lack of adequate infrastructure or looked at another way an overheated London economy which enjoys an inappropriate share of the country's resources which should be more equally shared with the rest of the country to alleviate the pressure on the capital.

You're right that it's not the fault of the oldies. But if they are going to get free travel because they are old then this should at least be restricted to outside of the windows when the most paying customers are using the system.

So you do dislike old people.

Yeah, he does.

Should be fun on Monday when people who don't realise this is happening try to board trains and buses

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:13 am

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:09 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:02 am

That's not the fault of the oldies. It's down to a lack of adequate infrastructure or looked at another way an overheated London economy which enjoys an inappropriate share of the country's resources which should be more equally shared with the rest of the country to alleviate the pressure on the capital.

You're right that it's not the fault of the oldies. But if they are going to get free travel because they are old then this should at least be restricted to outside of the windows when the most paying customers are using the system.

So you do dislike old people.

Sorry, your straw man is of no interest to me.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:16 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:13 am

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:09 am

You're right that it's not the fault of the oldies. But if they are going to get free travel because they are old then this should at least be restricted to outside of the windows when the most paying customers are using the system.

So you do dislike old people.

Sorry, your straw man is of no interest to me.

Neither it seems is my point about inadequate infrastructure being the issue. Instead you want to punish our senior citizens for it. Strange.

No one is saying the old can't travel, they can, but it just won't be free.

one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:27 pm No one is saying the old can't travel, they can, but it just won't be free.

But if there are retrictions on the times when they can travel then that is treating them as second class citizens and shows no respect to our senior citizens.

The Freedom Pass is obviously now a misnomer and should be called "The Old Peoples Second Class Citizen Restricted Freedom Pass"

Travel is important as the prophet says:

"The World is a book and those who do not travel read only a page"