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Posted: **Fri May 03, 2019 11:44 pm**

Anybody know why the right wing USA/CIA backed failed anti democratic leader of the failed Coup D'Etat is not under lock and key awaiting execution?

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 2:21 am**

Probably the same reason why the Russian and Chinese backed leader is not. He runs the army though so maybe he’s OK for now.

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 6:39 am**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 11:44 pm Anybody know why the right wing USA/CIA backed failed anti democratic leader of the failed Coup D'Etat is not under lock and key awaiting execution?

Maduro is doing a fine job. The country is a shining example of togetherness.

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 7:01 am**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:39 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 11:44 pm Anybody know why the right wing USA/CIA backed failed anti democratic leader of the failed Coup D'Etat is not under lock and key awaiting execution?
Maduro is doing a fine job. The country is a shining example of togetherness.

Never too many people complaining.

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 8:39 am**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 11:44 pm Anybody know why the right wing USA/CIA backed failed anti democratic leader of the failed Coup D'Etat is not under lock and key awaiting execution?

Leopoldo Lopez is no puppet.

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 10:38 am**

Just remember Maduro is a democratically elected leader, and as such, the people will have the chance to remove him, if they so wish, at the next General election
Its outrageous that a foreign power ( USA), should wish to remove a democratically elected government by force.
If were all honest we know, America wants to get its hands on the biggest supply of oil, in the world
America is just a terrorist state when it comes down to it

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 10:48 am**

Funny peculiar people Americans at times and their politicians are even more peculiar IMO. But they don't see it that way.

But I love 'em, so naive, so friendly to Brits, but in New York, they cannot understand a broad Suffolk accent, but neither Mrs Nes or me can understand a broad New York accent most of the time.

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 11:31 am**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 10:38 am Just remember Maduro is a democratically elected leader, and as such, the people will have the chance to remove him, if they so wish, at the next General election
Its outrageous that a foreign power ( USA), should wish to remove a democratically elected government by force.
If were all honest we know, America wants to get its hands on the biggest supply of oil, in the world
America is just a terrorist state when it comes down to it

Considering the turmoil the Venezuela is in maybe they should have a General Election now . One that is overseen by foreign observers so it's not rigged.

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 11:35 am**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 11:31 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 10:38 am Just remember Maduro is a democratically elected leader, and as such, the people will have the chance to remove him, if they so wish, at the next General election
Its outrageous that a foreign power ( USA), should wish to remove a democratically elected government by force.
If were all honest we know, America wants to get its hands on the biggest supply of oil, in the world
America is just a terrorist state when it comes down to it
Considering the turmoil the Venezuela is in maybe they should have a General Election now . One that is overseen by foreign observers so it's not rigged.

Agree, sounds about right. I have little sympathy for regimes that cling onto power and in order to do so, will even turn the Army onto their own people.

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 12:38 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 11:31 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 10:38 am Just remember Maduro is a democratically elected leader, and as such, the people will have the chance to remove him, if they so wish, at the next General election
Its outrageous that a foreign power ( USA), should wish to remove a democratically elected government by force.
If were all honest we know, America wants to get its hands on the biggest supply of oil, in the world
America is just a terrorist state when it comes down to it
Considering the turmoil the Venezuela is in maybe they should have a General Election now . One that is overseen by foreign observers so it's not rigged.

The last election was monitored by foreign observers, a company I believe owned by ex President Carter. He reported everything was done by the book and the elections were completely fair and above board

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 1:02 pm**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 12:38 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 11:31 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 10:38 am Just remember Maduro is a democratically elected leader, and as such, the people will have the chance to remove him, if they so wish, at the next General election
Its outrageous that a foreign power ( USA), should wish to remove a democratically elected government by force.
If were all honest we know, America wants to get its hands on the biggest supply of oil, in the world
America is just a terrorist state when it comes down to it
Considering the turmoil the Venezuela is in maybe they should have a General Election now . One that is overseen by foreign observers so it's not rigged.
The last election was monitored by foreign observers, a company I believe owned by ex President Carter. He reported everything was done by the book and the elections were completely fair and above board

Read about this election on Wikipedia and it would appear that this election was critically flawed by irregularities.
Amongst other things it says, I quote............
'' The Carter Center turned down Maduro's invitation to send an observation team on election day, as did other election observing institutions.''

2018 Venezuelan presidential election. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Vene ... l_election

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 1:03 pm**

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:02 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 12:38 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 11:31 am

Considering the turmoil the Venezuela is in maybe they should have a General Election now . One that is overseen by foreign observers so it's not rigged.
The last election was monitored by foreign observers, a company I believe owned by ex President Carter. He reported everything was done by the book and the elections were completely fair and above board
Read about this election on wikipedia and it seems that the election was critically flawed by irregularities.
Amongst other things it says, I quote............
'' The Carter Center turned down Maduro's invitation to send an observation team on election day, as did other election observing institutions.''

Shhhh. Don’t tell Max.
Marxists can do no wrong and see Western conspiracies everywhere.

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 2:15 pm**

The US has been screwing South America for decades. It has backed every right wing/fascist body it could, one after another, just as long as they could prevent any "commie" insurgence into their own backyard (as they see it). The US has a lot of blood on it's hands in South America. They've supported regimes that routinely torture and murder their opposition. The land of the free huh...........

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 9:03 pm**

BoniO wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 2:15 pm The US has been screwing South America for decades. It has backed every right wing/fascist body it could, one after another, just as long as they could prevent any "commie" insurgence into their own backyard (as they see it). The US has a lot of blood on it's hands in South America. They've supported regimes that routinely torture and murder their opposition. The land of the free huh...........

Extreme left wing governments, extreme right wing governments.
Both forms eventually lead to Dictatorships backed up by the Military Generals.

Posted: **Sat May 04, 2019 9:11 pm**

Any govt mildly left of centre and the yanks are in there, f*cking things up.

Posted: **Sun May 05, 2019 7:53 am**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:03 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:02 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 12:38 pm

The last election was monitored by foreign observers, a company I believe owned by ex President Carter. He reported everything was done by the book and the elections were completely fair and above board
Read about this election on wikipedia and it seems that the election was critically flawed by irregularities.
Amongst other things it says, I quote............
'' The Carter Center turned down Maduro's invitation to send an observation team on election day, as did other election observing institutions.''
Shhhh. Don’t tell Max.
Marxists can do no wrong and see Western conspiracies everywhere.

Marxists see Western conspiracies everywhere. So do Maxists.

Posted: **Sun May 05, 2019 12:09 pm**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 10:38 am Just remember Maduro is a democratically elected leader, and as such, the people will have the chance to remove him, if they so wish, at the next General election
Its outrageous that a foreign power ( USA), should wish to remove a democratically elected government by force.
If were all honest we know, America wants to get its hands on the biggest supply of oil, in the world
America is just a terrorist state when it comes down to it

Exactly.

Posted: **Sun May 05, 2019 2:21 pm**

Incredible to think how much more peaceful the world would be without the yanks.

Posted: **Sun May 05, 2019 3:04 pm**

And the Russians.

Posted: **Sun May 05, 2019 3:53 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 3:04 pm And the Russians.

And the Chinese, Saudis, North Koreans, British, French, Germans, Iranians and the and the.......Ohh,I give up, better still, get rid of all the humans on the planet and let the wildlife take over including the lions, tigers, Bears, Sharks in the sea, but hold on a minute, their population will expand and they will start killing even more........you just cant win it seems !

Posted: **Sun May 05, 2019 4:26 pm**

But mainly the yanks.

Posted: **Sun May 05, 2019 4:34 pm**

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 4:26 pm But mainly the yanks.

Posted: **Sun May 05, 2019 4:42 pm**

So many people jealous of the USA on here, hilarious.

Posted: **Sun May 05, 2019 4:54 pm**

roffeys money wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 4:42 pm So many people jealous of the USA on here, hilarious.

Think you've spectacularly missed the point here. Do you really believe the US hasn't interfered in the internal politics of many South American countries and caused countless deaths by doing so?

Posted: **Sun May 05, 2019 5:05 pm**

No I agree they have but my point still stands.
Incidentally have you checked out the situation in Nicaragua recently where the Sandinista govt lead by Ortega is violating the human rights of the people there?

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