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And Matt Harrold staying on in some form. Whilst they get rid of the goalkeeper coach and sports scientist. Jobs for the boys indeed.

what driving it !

Lawless was recognised as one of the best, if not THE best trainer in that squad and was hyper-professional. If he is coming in as a coach, that would make him a good role model for whatever level he would coach at.

No issue with a good quality coach coming in if they improve us. But given we are well stocked with coaches, a sports scientist and improvements in our analytics approach would appear to be higher priorities.

It does smack of ML surrounding himself with acolytes though.

They're like homing pigeons now. Like Biggsy said, it's jobs for the boys.

Wonder whether we interviewed any BAME candidates for this role

Nigel said along the lines of how he feels its important that ex pros who've done well for the club, should be recognised if they want to move into coaching and that the club should try and issue them with a pathway for this - He highlighted the work Brian Saah is currently doing for the academy as an example.

Harrolds role hasn't been sorted yet. I'd imagine they'll both be coaching jobs in the clubs academy - something like the under15s, 16s etc.

The Big Shot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:58 pm Nigel said along the lines of how he feels its important that ex pros who've done well for the club, should be recognised if they want to move into coaching and that the club should try and issue them with a pathway for this - He highlighted the work Brian Saah is currently doing for the academy as an example.

Harrolds role hasn't been sorted yet. I'd imagine they'll both be coaching jobs in the clubs academy - something like the under15s, 16s etc.

That’s fine but don’t get rid of 2 members of staff and put it down to covid-19, employ more people then send loaded begging emails for people to donate the money owed.

Probably part way through doing his badges? Quite often these guys need to be attached to a club to finish the B badge. Fits in by doubling up as 1st team and fitness coach? Sounds like Brill is stepping back to make way for him. As for Harrold, he will be on expenses by comparison to what he earned here this season.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:03 pm

The Big Shot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:58 pm Nigel said along the lines of how he feels its important that ex pros who've done well for the club, should be recognised if they want to move into coaching and that the club should try and issue them with a pathway for this - He highlighted the work Brian Saah is currently doing for the academy as an example.

Harrolds role hasn't been sorted yet. I'd imagine they'll both be coaching jobs in the clubs academy - something like the under15s, 16s etc.

That’s fine but don’t get rid of 2 members of staff and put it down to covid-19, employ more people then send loaded begging emails for people to donate the money owed.

True, but right now we don't know what type of roles they may/will be employed in and whether its part time or full time.

The full interview is here:



Otteley was very unlucky though I'll say that much, clearly the board feel there was no need to employ two qualified goal keeping coaches in the current climate and Dean Brill got the nod over him.

Think we need a new IT person. My latest mail came through addressed to

Hi *|FNAME*|,

Same here. Luckily my real name is Fname, so it was OK.

The Big Shot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:58 pm Nigel said along the lines of how he feels its important that ex pros who've done well for the club, should be recognised if they want to move into coaching and that the club should try and issue them with a pathway for this

How does this impact Lawless?

He was great presenting The A-Z of Eurovision

How many coaches do we have now?! Seems like it'll be 1:1 tuition at this rate

I think Lawless will be working with the academy on a part time basis, He was the best trainer at the club in his time here so if he can instill that work ethic in the kids will be good.

The club are talking with Matt Harrold about a "possible role" nothing yet decided.

The Big Shot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:58 pm Nigel said along the lines of how he feels its important that ex pros who've done well for the club, should be recognised if they want to move into coaching and that the club should try and issue them with a pathway for this - He highlighted the work Brian Saah is currently doing for the academy as an example.

Harrolds role hasn't been sorted yet. I'd imagine they'll both be coaching jobs in the clubs academy - something like the under15s, 16s etc.

I think this is an excellent concept. It may even encourage some players to join us if they see a future opportunity in football beyond playing.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:10 am I think Lawless will be working with the academy on a part time basis, He was the best trainer at the club in his time here so if he can instill that work ethic in the kids will be good.

The club are talking with Matt Harrold about a "possible role" nothing yet decided.

Give him a job because he runs around for a long time?

The Big Shot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:58 pm Nigel said along the lines of how he feels its important that ex pros who've done well for the club, should be recognised if they want to move into coaching and that the club should try and issue them with a pathway for this - He highlighted the work Brian Saah is currently doing for the academy as an example.

Harrolds role hasn't been sorted yet. I'd imagine they'll both be coaching jobs in the clubs academy - something like the under15s, 16s etc.

Seems a good policy imo.

Outside of Jobi, for a club based in East London, it's disappointing to see no other BAME coaches or board members at the club.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:52 am

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:10 am I think Lawless will be working with the academy on a part time basis, He was the best trainer at the club in his time here so if he can instill that work ethic in the kids will be good.

The club are talking with Matt Harrold about a "possible role" nothing yet decided.

Give him a job because he runs around for a long time?

Bit more to it than "running around for a long time" kids need good coaches who can teach them the game and show them the right attitude, wether people rated Alex or not having someone who has been around the pro game and won promotions on his CV can only be a good thing.

Nepotism at work.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:12 pm Outside of Jobi, for a club based in East London, it's disappointing to see no other BAME coaches or board members at the club.

Very topical but I have no doubt the club would'nt hesitate to make such an appointment if it was someone who could add something to the club, our physio Ketan Patel is of Asian decent btw and we have Brian Saah managing the Academy, Miguel De Souza was involved with our scouting set up don't know if he still is, We have had BAME coaches working with the age groups in the academy. Orient have always had there fair share of BAME players and staff more than many other clubs I suspect.

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:52 am How many coaches do we have now?! Seems like it'll be 1:1 tuition at this rate

That's the impact of social distancing for you......