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Piergianni yes, Rowe no.Writtlered wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:13 pm Try and snap up Pergianni and Rowe on the cheap in the summer
Piergianni is only on loan at Oldham . He's still a Salford player . However I agree about Rowebanqo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:28 pmPiergianni yes, Rowe no.Writtlered wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:13 pm Try and snap up Pergianni and Rowe on the cheap in the summer
The vultures are circling.Writtlered wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:13 pm Try and snap up Pergianni and Rowe on the cheap in the summer
UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:07 am Then people will " moan" or stare their view that he no good at div two etc ect
Name changes intent remains
Morris - still plays at league two
Not too sure what the answer is. Clubs, like Orient, rely on handouts from rich benefactors. We have seen our share of the good and the bad. Remove the rich owners and football would be reduced to a semi-pro sport below the premiership and maybe the Championship.
Centre BackChief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:25 pm Individual signings won't make any difference until we are structured together as a 'team.' At the moment we are just aimlessly chugging along gathering a few points here and there. Couldn't see Rowe making any difference, anyway. Just out of interest though, what position does this Peregrine play?
Pergianni was decent in the National League last season but there must be a reason why Salford shipped him out on loan to Oldham.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:13 pmCentre BackChief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:25 pm Individual signings won't make any difference until we are structured together as a 'team.' At the moment we are just aimlessly chugging along gathering a few points here and there. Couldn't see Rowe making any difference, anyway. Just out of interest though, what position does this Peregrine play?
interesting !Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:25 pm Individual signings won't make any difference until we are structured together as a 'team.' At the moment we are just aimlessly chugging along gathering a few points here and there. Couldn't see Rowe making any difference, anyway. Just out of interest though, what position does this Peregrine play?
How about - recognise that the Top tiers of the sport rely upon the pyramid below them, redistribute the billions upon billions of pounds flooding into the game further down the pyramid **, so that Clubs like the Orient and Oldham and Bury are not reliant on sugar-daddies, and actually break even or turn a profit. If the clubs below the Championship have enough income (in this vastly wealthy game) then there's no reason at all that they should go semi-pro. The problem isn't the wealth - it's the distribution.Redline wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:13 pmNot too sure what the answer is. Clubs, like Orient, rely on handouts from rich benefactors. We have seen our share of the good and the bad. Remove the rich owners and football would be reduced to a semi-pro sport below the premiership and maybe the Championship.
What is your suggestion.
Very true and time the FA and EFL made a stand and let the Premier League go off and do its own thing. From there they can introduce salary capping and put proper provisions in place to safeguard football clubs from going under (such as owners having to put a bond up front every season, laws changed to ensure owners are held accountable). The players ain't going to like it and we may even see strike action like what happened in the NHL when they introduced salary caps. But they need to understand that if more clubs go under there is going to be less clubs for them to join and a lesser chance of earning decent dough.
This point came up on a podcast. Some football financial lecturer said this could cause issues. The reason being some clubs would use this money and more and try to buy success. Ultimately it could lead to more financially in trouble clubs. In effect more easy income likely to result in more silly spending.StillSpike wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:10 pmHow about - recognise that the Top tiers of the sport rely upon the pyramid below them, redistribute the billions upon billions of pounds flooding into the game further down the pyramid **, so that Clubs like the Orient and Oldham and Bury are not reliant on sugar-daddies, and actually break even or turn a profit. If the clubs below the Championship have enough income (in this vastly wealthy game) then there's no reason at all that they should go semi-pro. The problem isn't the wealth - it's the distribution.Redline wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:13 pmNot too sure what the answer is. Clubs, like Orient, rely on handouts from rich benefactors. We have seen our share of the good and the bad. Remove the rich owners and football would be reduced to a semi-pro sport below the premiership and maybe the Championship.
What is your suggestion.
At the moment, the "fit and proper persons" test is really "do they have some cash". If being able to support a loss-making club is less important (because the club breaks even or even turns a profit), then more people would be willing to take them on - so you could have a meaningful "Fit and proper person" test.
** How do you redistribute the money further down the pyramid? Couple of thoughts.
Spread the TV cash further down.
Put an absolute cap on the number of players any club can register (say, 35) to stop the Prem clubs hoovering up all the young talent. The youngsters would then have to sign for clubs lower down the leagues until they're good enough to earn a transfer (i.e. cash flowing down). This measure in itself would serve to suppress wage figures as more players would be chasing fewer spots.
In other words, turn the myth known as "trickle down" into reality. It would need wresting control of the game from the Premier League, and for the FA and EFl to understand that their job is to ensure the wellbeing of the whole sport, and not just to kowtow to the EPL.
A lot of good ideas there, but just because you're spreading the cash/greater amount of cash doesn't mean it will solve the problem of clubs going bust. You'll always get club owners who will overspend and lay out even bigger sums on player salaries for apparantly better players. Can see the additional revenues mainly going to players and agents.StillSpike wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:10 pmHow about - recognise that the Top tiers of the sport rely upon the pyramid below them, redistribute the billions upon billions of pounds flooding into the game further down the pyramid **, so that Clubs like the Orient and Oldham and Bury are not reliant on sugar-daddies, and actually break even or turn a profit. If the clubs below the Championship have enough income (in this vastly wealthy game) then there's no reason at all that they should go semi-pro. The problem isn't the wealth - it's the distribution.Redline wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:13 pmNot too sure what the answer is. Clubs, like Orient, rely on handouts from rich benefactors. We have seen our share of the good and the bad. Remove the rich owners and football would be reduced to a semi-pro sport below the premiership and maybe the Championship.
What is your suggestion.
At the moment, the "fit and proper persons" test is really "do they have some cash". If being able to support a loss-making club is less important (because the club breaks even or even turns a profit), then more people would be willing to take them on - so you could have a meaningful "Fit and proper person" test.
** How do you redistribute the money further down the pyramid? Couple of thoughts.
Spread the TV cash further down.
Put an absolute cap on the number of players any club can register (say, 35) to stop the Prem clubs hoovering up all the young talent. The youngsters would then have to sign for clubs lower down the leagues until they're good enough to earn a transfer (i.e. cash flowing down). This measure in itself would serve to suppress wage figures as more players would be chasing fewer spots.
In other words, turn the myth known as "trickle down" into reality. It would need wresting control of the game from the Premier League, and for the FA and EFl to understand that their job is to ensure the wellbeing of the whole sport, and not just to kowtow to the EPL.