Oldham Althletic

[ComeOnYouOs]

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Oldham Athletic have tonight been served with a notice of application to the court to appoint administrators by Boundary Park landlords Brassbank Ltd.

pasted from twitter

[Writtlered]

Try and snap up Pergianni and Rowe on the cheap in the summer

[banqo]

Try and snap up Pergianni and Rowe on the cheap in the summer

Piergianni yes, Rowe no.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Try and snap up Pergianni and Rowe on the cheap in the summer

Piergianni yes, Rowe no.

Piergianni is only on loan at Oldham . He's still a Salford player . However I agree about Rowe

[Howling Mad Murdock]

Try and snap up Pergianni and Rowe on the cheap in the summer

The vultures are circling.

[spen666]

Then people will " moan" or stare their view that he no good at div two etc ect

Name changes intent remains

Morris - still plays at league two

Not sure that will come across well on the Message Board

[EliotNes]

Anyone remember what the points deduction is for going into Administration? 10-20?

[A Pedant]

12.

[yumyumO]

This type of event is becoming more commonplace, surely it is now time for football to look very seriously at how it allows teams to run.
I love this game but with corrupt and inept owners , now ably assisted by the farce that is VAR the game is in trouble.

[Dohnut]

This type of event is becoming more commonplace, surely it is now time for football to look very seriously at how it allows teams to run.
I love this game but with corrupt and inept owners , now ably assisted by the farce that is VAR the game is in trouble.

Not too sure what the answer is. Clubs, like Orient, rely on handouts from rich benefactors. We have seen our share of the good and the bad. Remove the rich owners and football would be reduced to a semi-pro sport below the premiership and maybe the Championship.

What is your suggestion.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

Oldham are 4-0 up this afternoon.

[Chief crazy horse]

Individual signings won't make any difference until we are structured together as a 'team.' At the moment we are just aimlessly chugging along gathering a few points here and there. Couldn't see Rowe making any difference, anyway. Just out of interest though, what position does this Peregrine play?

[RedDwarf 1881]

Individual signings won't make any difference until we are structured together as a 'team.' At the moment we are just aimlessly chugging along gathering a few points here and there. Couldn't see Rowe making any difference, anyway. Just out of interest though, what position does this Peregrine play?

Centre Back

[Lovejoy]

Individual signings won't make any difference until we are structured together as a 'team.' At the moment we are just aimlessly chugging along gathering a few points here and there. Couldn't see Rowe making any difference, anyway. Just out of interest though, what position does this Peregrine play?

Centre Back

Pergianni was decent in the National League last season but there must be a reason why Salford shipped him out on loan to Oldham.

[Chief crazy horse]

Thanks Red.

[KC & sunshine band]

Individual signings won't make any difference until we are structured together as a 'team.' At the moment we are just aimlessly chugging along gathering a few points here and there. Couldn't see Rowe making any difference, anyway. Just out of interest though, what position does this Peregrine play?

interesting !

I wonder why we are aimlessly chugging along gathering a few points here and there !

I am baffled anyone got any ideas to the solution ?

[Chicken Dhansak]

An experienced Manager, with some new ideas, might help.

[StillSpike]

This type of event is becoming more commonplace, surely it is now time for football to look very seriously at how it allows teams to run.
I love this game but with corrupt and inept owners , now ably assisted by the farce that is VAR the game is in trouble.

Not too sure what the answer is. Clubs, like Orient, rely on handouts from rich benefactors. We have seen our share of the good and the bad. Remove the rich owners and football would be reduced to a semi-pro sport below the premiership and maybe the Championship.

What is your suggestion.

How about - recognise that the Top tiers of the sport rely upon the pyramid below them, redistribute the billions upon billions of pounds flooding into the game further down the pyramid **, so that Clubs like the Orient and Oldham and Bury are not reliant on sugar-daddies, and actually break even or turn a profit. If the clubs below the Championship have enough income (in this vastly wealthy game) then there's no reason at all that they should go semi-pro. The problem isn't the wealth - it's the distribution.

At the moment, the "fit and proper persons" test is really "do they have some cash". If being able to support a loss-making club is less important (because the club breaks even or even turns a profit), then more people would be willing to take them on - so you could have a meaningful "Fit and proper person" test.

** How do you redistribute the money further down the pyramid? Couple of thoughts.

Spread the TV cash further down.

Put an absolute cap on the number of players any club can register (say, 35) to stop the Prem clubs hoovering up all the young talent. The youngsters would then have to sign for clubs lower down the leagues until they're good enough to earn a transfer (i.e. cash flowing down). This measure in itself would serve to suppress wage figures as more players would be chasing fewer spots.

In other words, turn the myth known as "trickle down" into reality. It would need wresting control of the game from the Premier League, and for the FA and EFl to understand that their job is to ensure the wellbeing of the whole sport, and not just to kowtow to the EPL.

[LittleMate]

StillSpike I agree 100%, but that only makes you as big a dreamer as me. In all sports the money is consolidating into the elite. I see the Rugby union boys have halved their handouts to the championship clubs beneath them at 4-5 months notice. Its far more likely this will happen in football than your dream, I'm afraid. Accordingly I'm happy with our sugar daddies!!

[Fellowo]

Can't help but think that Football outside the Premier League is dying. It has become rare that a Premier League team will buy the best from EFL clubs and even gate receipts from domestic cups is on the slide where more and more Premier League clubs put out their reserves.

Maybe its time to let the Premier League carry out their threats of breaking away and thus letting the rest of us get back to some kind of normality when it comes to saleries.

[The Mindsweep]

The Premier League has for some time had a global audience and the domestic one is becoming less important. The many scenarios floating around regarding the next TV deal will vastly exceed the income the clubs now get. This will put them in a position to lower admission prices, even to zero, if attendances begin to fall. For the armchair fan, cost will also be lower. As for the Football League, attendances are holding up and I feel it can survive, or even prosper, when the PL becomes a closed shop.

[tuffers#1]

There is no football pyramid with footballing elite in this country.
There is the F.A premier league ( Elite ) then
Everyone else.

They do not need clubs below the premier league to survive.

Its unfortunate but it is the way it is.

[Fellowo]

There is no football pyramid with footballing elite in this country.
There is the F.A premier league ( Elite ) then
Everyone else.

They do not need clubs below the premier league to survive.

Its unfortunate but it is the way it is.

Very true and time the FA and EFL made a stand and let the Premier League go off and do its own thing. From there they can introduce salary capping and put proper provisions in place to safeguard football clubs from going under (such as owners having to put a bond up front every season, laws changed to ensure owners are held accountable). The players ain't going to like it and we may even see strike action like what happened in the NHL when they introduced salary caps. But they need to understand that if more clubs go under there is going to be less clubs for them to join and a lesser chance of earning decent dough.

[Dohnut]

This type of event is becoming more commonplace, surely it is now time for football to look very seriously at how it allows teams to run.
I love this game but with corrupt and inept owners , now ably assisted by the farce that is VAR the game is in trouble.

Not too sure what the answer is. Clubs, like Orient, rely on handouts from rich benefactors. We have seen our share of the good and the bad. Remove the rich owners and football would be reduced to a semi-pro sport below the premiership and maybe the Championship.

What is your suggestion.

How about - recognise that the Top tiers of the sport rely upon the pyramid below them, redistribute the billions upon billions of pounds flooding into the game further down the pyramid **, so that Clubs like the Orient and Oldham and Bury are not reliant on sugar-daddies, and actually break even or turn a profit. If the clubs below the Championship have enough income (in this vastly wealthy game) then there's no reason at all that they should go semi-pro. The problem isn't the wealth - it's the distribution.

At the moment, the "fit and proper persons" test is really "do they have some cash". If being able to support a loss-making club is less important (because the club breaks even or even turns a profit), then more people would be willing to take them on - so you could have a meaningful "Fit and proper person" test.

** How do you redistribute the money further down the pyramid? Couple of thoughts.

Spread the TV cash further down.

Put an absolute cap on the number of players any club can register (say, 35) to stop the Prem clubs hoovering up all the young talent. The youngsters would then have to sign for clubs lower down the leagues until they're good enough to earn a transfer (i.e. cash flowing down). This measure in itself would serve to suppress wage figures as more players would be chasing fewer spots.

In other words, turn the myth known as "trickle down" into reality. It would need wresting control of the game from the Premier League, and for the FA and EFl to understand that their job is to ensure the wellbeing of the whole sport, and not just to kowtow to the EPL.

This point came up on a podcast. Some football financial lecturer said this could cause issues. The reason being some clubs would use this money and more and try to buy success. Ultimately it could lead to more financially in trouble clubs. In effect more easy income likely to result in more silly spending.

I have no idea if this is correct but the argument was compelling.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

This type of event is becoming more commonplace, surely it is now time for football to look very seriously at how it allows teams to run.
I love this game but with corrupt and inept owners , now ably assisted by the farce that is VAR the game is in trouble.

Not too sure what the answer is. Clubs, like Orient, rely on handouts from rich benefactors. We have seen our share of the good and the bad. Remove the rich owners and football would be reduced to a semi-pro sport below the premiership and maybe the Championship.

What is your suggestion.

How about - recognise that the Top tiers of the sport rely upon the pyramid below them, redistribute the billions upon billions of pounds flooding into the game further down the pyramid **, so that Clubs like the Orient and Oldham and Bury are not reliant on sugar-daddies, and actually break even or turn a profit. If the clubs below the Championship have enough income (in this vastly wealthy game) then there's no reason at all that they should go semi-pro. The problem isn't the wealth - it's the distribution.

At the moment, the "fit and proper persons" test is really "do they have some cash". If being able to support a loss-making club is less important (because the club breaks even or even turns a profit), then more people would be willing to take them on - so you could have a meaningful "Fit and proper person" test.

** How do you redistribute the money further down the pyramid? Couple of thoughts.

Spread the TV cash further down.

Put an absolute cap on the number of players any club can register (say, 35) to stop the Prem clubs hoovering up all the young talent. The youngsters would then have to sign for clubs lower down the leagues until they're good enough to earn a transfer (i.e. cash flowing down). This measure in itself would serve to suppress wage figures as more players would be chasing fewer spots.

In other words, turn the myth known as "trickle down" into reality. It would need wresting control of the game from the Premier League, and for the FA and EFl to understand that their job is to ensure the wellbeing of the whole sport, and not just to kowtow to the EPL.

A lot of good ideas there, but just because you're spreading the cash/greater amount of cash doesn't mean it will solve the problem of clubs going bust. You'll always get club owners who will overspend and lay out even bigger sums on player salaries for apparantly better players. Can see the additional revenues mainly going to players and agents.

Guess the only way around that is a hard salary cap at League One and Two level that increases as revenues handed down grows. But even that doesn't necessarily fix the issue if the cap is set at a fair enough level for some teams but at a level that means smaller ones can still overspend based on what they have.