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Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:24 pm
by Orientoutlookpodcast
The supporters club held an Evening with Ross Embleton tonight (Weds 19/2) and we’ve got the whole Q&A available for everyone to listen to.

Topics discussed and questions asked include out of contract players, formations, Sotoriou, Brophy, Turley, Coulson, managing, Justin and lots more.

You can listen on all your usual podcast platforms like iTunes, Spotify, www.soundcloud.com/orient-outlook and Android Apps.

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Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:31 am
by Long slender neck
Good work lads

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:22 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Good work from the unofficial* podcast boys again.

I’ve made it to the first break so far, not sure I can take much more.

*official

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:55 pm
by Real Al
It sounds as though the SC only has one mic between them - can this be true?

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:28 pm
by BIGRON
There was only one Mike being used last night . A second one would have been useful .

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:42 pm
by A Pedant
Real Al wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:55 pm It sounds as though the SC only has one mic between them - can this be true?
Yes, their PA system only has one mic.

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:41 pm
by Constanza
Think there was a Mike Hunt in the Bechetti era.

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:08 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Listened to it all back. Very open as always.

My concerns are around:

- Talking up the sale of Happe instead of playing it down (just as Porter was doing the other day). It's as if we want to flog him off for a few quid.

- Touched on strengthening pretty much every position - centre half, full backs, DCM (hopefully Cisse), strikers and wingers. The only ones he didn't mention were Goalkeeper, understandably, and attacking CMs. Clay and Wright have jobs for life. Bonkers. Proper LOL'd at the bloke there who said Wright reminded him of Ray Wilkins.

- Said won't play 4-4-2 because Wright and Clay there leaves us exposed. (Yet doesn't want to strengthen there, would rather just change formation to accomodate them).

- Massively hyped up Ling and the negotiating he's doing (despite the fact that we've got so many players who still haven't been able to finalise negotiations with).

- Blaming the fans for making the players edgy when trying to play the ball out from the back. Blaming the pitch for not being good enough to play the ball out from the back. (No mention of our inadequate CMs hiding as the reason we can't play the ball out from the back).

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:20 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Only listened to the last 10 mins but heard the bit about the formation and that we are exposed in centre midfield if we play 4-4-2. Hopefully that dispels anyone trying to downplay the fact a few of us have been banging on about CM for years.

Agree that its strange that we are changing our formation (and becoming less creative) because we haven't got the midfielders to play 4-4-2, despite Ross liking that. Instead of bringing in a 6th striker who was injured, why didnt we bring in another midfielder?

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:21 pm
by OyinbO
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:08 pm - Touched on strengthening pretty much every position - centre half, full backs, DCM (hopefully Cisse), strikers and wingers. The only ones he didn't mention were Goalkeeper, understandably, and attacking CMs. Clay and Wright have jobs for life. Bonkers. Proper LOL'd at the bloke there who said Wright reminded him of Ray Wilkins.

Can't say I'm surprised. Basically he's saying it's the players fault that we're sh*t.

How much talent is going to leave the club before we finally clock what the problem really is? It's painful watching all the momentum from last year ebb away like this.

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:29 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Apple Wumble wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:20 pm Instead of bringing in a 6th striker who was injured, why didnt we bring in another midfielder?
He was asked about the injured kid and his answer made sense - if the lad was fit, he would have gone to a L1 club, he's that good. So this way we get a player we wouldn't otherwise have got, and we get a little boost at the back end of the season.

Presumably with Marsh and Cisse already on loan in that midfield role (remember, Marsh was supposed to be a CM, it's just that he wasn't very good there) we didn't have the funds for another one. Plus it's Clay and Wright, innit.

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:45 pm
by tuffers#1
Apple Wumble wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:20 pm Only listened to the last 10 mins but heard the bit about the formation and that we are exposed in centre midfield if we play 4-4-2. Hopefully that dispels anyone trying to downplay the fact a few of us have been banging on about CM for years.

Agree that its strange that we are changing our formation (and becoming less creative) because we haven't got the midfielders to play 4-4-2, despite Ross liking that. Instead of bringing in a 6th striker who was injured, why didnt we bring in another midfielder?
Had you listened to the whole thing you would of heard 2 or 3 reasons why during the entire season, not just the answer given that you heard

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:21 pm
by gshaw
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:29 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:20 pm Instead of bringing in a 6th striker who was injured, why didnt we bring in another midfielder?
He was asked about the injured kid and his answer made sense - if the lad was fit, he would have gone to a L1 club, he's that good. So this way we get a player we wouldn't otherwise have got, and we get a little boost at the back end of the season.
Question is are we paying his wages for all the time he spends injured?

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:25 pm
by tuffers#1
gshaw wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:21 pm
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:29 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:20 pm Instead of bringing in a 6th striker who was injured, why didnt we bring in another midfielder?
He was asked about the injured kid and his answer made sense - if the lad was fit, he would have gone to a L1 club, he's that good. So this way we get a player we wouldn't otherwise have got, and we get a little boost at the back end of the season.
Question is are we paying his wages for all the time he spends injured?
Being that he is spending much of his time at Tottenhams treatment room, but was at the home game last weekend , i think that would be a NO.

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:00 pm
by faith1234
Top man

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:01 pm
by faith1234
Top man

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:04 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:25 pm
gshaw wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:21 pm
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:29 pm

He was asked about the injured kid and his answer made sense - if the lad was fit, he would have gone to a L1 club, he's that good. So this way we get a player we wouldn't otherwise have got, and we get a little boost at the back end of the season.
Question is are we paying his wages for all the time he spends injured?
Being that he is spending much of his time at Tottenhams treatment room, but was at the home game last weekend , i think that would be a NO.
That question wasn't asked, sadly. But I agree, we can't be. That would be ridiculous.

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:11 pm
by tuffers#1
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:04 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:25 pm
gshaw wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:21 pm

Question is are we paying his wages for all the time he spends injured?
Being that he is spending much of his time at Tottenhams treatment room, but was at the home game last weekend , i think that would be a NO.
That question wasn't asked, sadly. But I agree, we can't be. That would be ridiculous.
The Q wasnt asked , but we can assume that as was already stated ,
Had the kid been fit he would be on loan in league 1 not league 2.

His injury put paid to that & as Ross has known the kid for a few years
Its a no risk loan , when he is fit we get him .
Seems to be a 1/3 of wages for us getting a kid on loan as was discussed with the
Dean Smith question.

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:42 pm
by banqo
Constanza wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:41 pm Think there was a Mike Hunt in the Bechetti era.
Think there were three or four to be honest!!

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:42 pm
by Max B Gold
banqo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:42 pm
Constanza wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:41 pm Think there was a Mike Hunt in the Bechetti era.
Think there were three or four to be honest!!
I can only think of his brother Jeremy.

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:07 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:11 pm
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:04 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:25 pm

Being that he is spending much of his time at Tottenhams treatment room, but was at the home game last weekend , i think that would be a NO.
That question wasn't asked, sadly. But I agree, we can't be. That would be ridiculous.
The Q wasnt asked , but we can assume that as was already stated ,
Had the kid been fit he would be on loan in league 1 not league 2.

His injury put paid to that & as Ross has known the kid for a few years
Its a no risk loan , when he is fit we get him .
Seems to be a 1/3 of wages for us getting a kid on loan as was discussed with the
Dean Smith question.
Not sure I believe that considering he had a couple of unsuccessful loan spells at league one clubs already.

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:25 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Ross said it...

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:31 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Must be true then...

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:38 pm
by The Big Shot
Apple Wumble wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:07 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:11 pm
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:04 pm

That question wasn't asked, sadly. But I agree, we can't be. That would be ridiculous.
The Q wasnt asked , but we can assume that as was already stated ,
Had the kid been fit he would be on loan in league 1 not league 2.

His injury put paid to that & as Ross has known the kid for a few years
Its a no risk loan , when he is fit we get him .
Seems to be a 1/3 of wages for us getting a kid on loan as was discussed with the
Dean Smith question.
Not sure I believe that considering he had a couple of unsuccessful loan spells at league one clubs already.
Harsh on Sterling that, considering his loan with Doncaster was cut short back in September because of the injury he's currently recovering from.

Re: Meet the Manager - Full Recording

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:41 pm
by The Big Shot
RedO wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:08 pm Listened to it all back. Very open as always.

My concerns are around:

- Talking up the sale of Happe instead of playing it down (just as Porter was doing the other day). It's as if we want to flog him off for a few quid.

- Touched on strengthening pretty much every position - centre half, full backs, DCM (hopefully Cisse), strikers and wingers. The only ones he didn't mention were Goalkeeper, understandably, and attacking CMs. Clay and Wright have jobs for life. Bonkers. Proper LOL'd at the bloke there who said Wright reminded him of Ray Wilkins.

- Said won't play 4-4-2 because Wright and Clay there leaves us exposed. (Yet doesn't want to strengthen there, would rather just change formation to accomodate them).

- Massively hyped up Ling and the negotiating he's doing (despite the fact that we've got so many players who still haven't been able to finalise negotiations with).

- Blaming the fans for making the players edgy when trying to play the ball out from the back. Blaming the pitch for not being good enough to play the ball out from the back. (No mention of our inadequate CMs hiding as the reason we can't play the ball out from the back).
Like Bonne and Koroma last summer, we're going to have to accept that Happe is almost certain to go this summer to a bigger club.

Probably our best player this season IMO and only 21 and will get better. Not many 6'5 left footed centre halfs who can play out from the back knocking around.