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Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:40 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Serious breaches of FFP (subject to appeal)
Hopefully it sticks
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:52 pm
by Bergen
Don`t think it will (stick).
"The decision is subject to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport".
UEFA will back down in the end.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:55 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Reckon it might get reduced to one
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:59 pm
by Bergen
One week.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:38 pm
by tuffers#1
It has to stick.
If U.E.F.A & F.I.F.A want any kind of credibility
they have to carry out punushmdmts to the full.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:41 pm
by Howling Mad Murdock
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:40 pm
Serious breaches of FFP (subject to appeal)
Hopefully it sticks
If it does it probably means theý wïĺĺ wïñ àĺĺ ťhě öťhěř ťŕöphïěş.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:48 pm
by Bergen
Howling Mad Murdock wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:41 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:40 pm
Serious breaches of FFP (subject to appeal)
Hopefully it sticks
If it does it probably means theý wïĺĺ wïñ àĺĺ ťhě öťhěř ťŕöphïěş.
If it does it probably means theý wïĺĺ only win Checkatrade Trophy.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:31 pm
by Thor
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:38 pm
It has to stick.
If U.E.F.A & F.I.F.A want any kind of credibility
they have to carry out punushmdmts to the full.
If you read the city statement they seem to have a case. They say the person doing the investigation was biased from before the investigation began, see below.
In December 2018, the UEFA Chief Investigator publicly previewed the outcome and sanction he intended to be delivered to Manchester City, before any investigation had even begun.
The subsequent flawed and consistently leaked UEFA process he oversaw has meant that there was little doubt in the result that he would deliver. The Club has formally complained to the UEFA Disciplinary body, a complaint which was validated by a CAS ruling.
'Simply put, this is a case initiated by UEFA, prosecuted by UEFA and judged by UEFA. With this prejudicial process now over, the Club will pursue an impartial judgment as quickly as possible and will therefore, in the first instance, commence proceedings with the Court of Arbitration for Sport at the earliest opportunity.'
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:50 pm
by tuffers#1
Man city's biggest sponsor
Is ownedby Man City's owners.
That is all that UEFA need Thor.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:56 am
by Thor
I understand that's one of the issues. The sponsor paid x amount to city but the majority of the cash came from the owner and not the company. Still if what they say is true then that seems an trifle unfair, if only there was a lawyer on this board who could give an unbiased opinon on pre judgements in law.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:06 pm
by LittleMate
Thor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:31 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:38 pm
It has to stick.
If U.E.F.A & F.I.F.A want any kind of credibility
they have to carry out punushmdmts to the full.
If you read the city statement they seem to have a case. They say the person doing the investigation was biased from before the investigation began, see below.
In December 2018, the UEFA Chief Investigator publicly previewed the outcome and sanction he intended to be delivered to Manchester City, before any investigation had even begun.
The subsequent flawed and consistently leaked UEFA process he oversaw has meant that there was little doubt in the result that he would deliver. The Club has formally complained to the UEFA Disciplinary body, a complaint which was validated by a CAS ruling.
'Simply put, this is a case initiated by UEFA, prosecuted by UEFA and judged by UEFA. With this prejudicial process now over, the Club will pursue an impartial judgment as quickly as possible and will therefore, in the first instance, commence proceedings with the Court of Arbitration for Sport at the earliest opportunity.'
The system may be flawed, I agree, but as I understand it City have (a) not countered the findings, apart from saying the incriminating line was out of context, and (b) have not cooperated at all with the governing body.
Once again rugby has set the lead by nailing Saracens. It will be interesting what the PL do, because they have an investigation pending too.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:25 pm
by Thor
I'm not suggesting that cheating is acceptable. Just highlighting what the club has said is a flawed process with a predetermined outcome, surely if that's true, that cannot be right?
On another level, this is a club that owes zero pennies to anyone, all debts are paid on time and nothing is borrowed or owed to anyone. I'd say it's a well run club among others as well.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:40 pm
by Howling Mad Murdock
Not sure why they signed John Stones,though.He's no Virgil Van Dijk.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:36 pm
by EliotNes
They are appealing and it'll be reduced to a fine and part suspended - just watch.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:55 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
100% will be in the CL if not next season, but defo the one after.
Too much money in it and too many people at UEFA and FIFA who love a bribe.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:19 pm
by Thor
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:55 pm
100% will be in the CL if not next season, but defo the one after.
Too much money in it and too many people at UEFA and FIFA who love a bribe.
Strong words....
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:56 pm
by spen666
Even if the ban is extended on appeal to 10 years, Man City will still be playing in Champions League again before West Ham ( or for that matter Newcastle)
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:04 pm
by Thor
You might be wrong there Spen, if he royal family of Saudi takeover Newcastle they will be in there quicker than you can say howay the lads.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:55 pm
by spen666
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:04 pm
You might be wrong there Spen, if he royal family of Saudi takeover Newcastle they will be in there quicker than you can say howay the lads.
There is more chance of me buying Newcastle than there being any Saudi takeover there.
The story is total bull.
Like every other alleged takeover.
The stories are pumped out by the FCB every time season tickets are due for renewal or transfer windows are coming up.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:24 am
by Disoriented
spen666 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:55 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:04 pm
You might be wrong there Spen, if he royal family of Saudi takeover Newcastle they will be in there quicker than you can say howay the lads.
There is more chance of me buying Newcastle than there being any Saudi takeover there.
The story is total bull.
Like every other alleged takeover.
The stories are pumped out by the FCB every time season tickets are due for renewal or transfer windows are coming up.
Not according to my source.
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:55 am
by spen666
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:24 am
spen666 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:55 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:04 pm
You might be wrong there Spen, if he royal family of Saudi takeover Newcastle they will be in there quicker than you can say howay the lads.
There is more chance of me buying Newcastle than there being any Saudi takeover there.
The story is total bull.
Like every other alleged takeover.
The stories are pumped out by the FCB every time season tickets are due for renewal or transfer windows are coming up.
Not according to my source.
You are being misled then
Re: Man City banned from CL for 2 years
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:57 am
by Disoriented
spen666 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:55 am
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:24 am
spen666 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:55 pm
There is more chance of me buying Newcastle than there being any Saudi takeover there.
The story is total bull.
Like every other alleged takeover.
The stories are pumped out by the FCB every time season tickets are due for renewal or transfer windows are coming up.
Not according to my source.
You are being misled then
Not by Thor.