Four Minutes

[Cheshunto]

I couldn’t believe that this was the amount of time being added on yesterday by the Ref.
It probably wouldn’t Have made much difference but it really should’ve been nearer 8 or 9 after the time wasting by their ‘keeper who IIRC wasn’t even booked……….plus all the substitutions, how was it only 4 ??

Apparently a new law is being introduced next season where Goalkeepers can only hold the ball for 8 seconds ( hopefully it will be enforced this time). If he holds onto it for longer the Referee will award a corner to his opponents. All in an effort to ‘speed up ‘ the game.

[Token]

Should have been about 10 mins added. It took 4 mins for Roberts to walk off the pitch after he pretended he had cramp. And how the goalie never got booked is beyond me

[DrWindy]

Come on gents, we are better than this. The ref was fine.

Why are the rules needing to be changed? If a keeper is wasting time then caution him. If he keeps doing it, send him off. No need for rule changes. Just enforce the current ones.

[Hoover Attack]

He really wasn’t fine.

[DrWindy]

He really wasn’t fine.

Keeley has been time wasting since he got here. Simpson should have been sent off.

We were awful yesterday. Nothing to do with the ref. He could have given us another fifteen but we still wouldn’t have got anything from the game.

[Hoover Attack]

He really wasn’t fine.

Keeley has been time wasting since he got here. Simpson should have been sent off.

We were awful yesterday. Nothing to do with the ref. He could have given us another fifteen but we still wouldn’t have got anything from the game.

Yes keeley timewastes, not disputing that.

Can’t comment on Simpson, no idea what the first booking was for or what the second incident was. I did say I realised the ref was a liability when he let brown off of a blatant booking in the first half for a trip stopping an attack, so this isn’t me being biased.

Yes, were awful yesterday, not disputing that either.

None of that takes away from the fact the ref allowed them to pull arms and shirts and hold and waste time throughout the entire game, letting them kill off any momentum we were trying to build. And then to add insult to injury, there was no injury time.

[Hoover Attack]

We don’t help ourselves with letting teams manage games, to be fair.

The crowd needs to be far more hostile and make the ref aware of the time wasting. We need ball boys around the pitch to stop them dilly dallying over retrieving the ball.

[DrWindy]

He really wasn’t fine.

Keeley has been time wasting since he got here. Simpson should have been sent off.

We were awful yesterday. Nothing to do with the ref. He could have given us another fifteen but we still wouldn’t have got anything from the game.

Yes keeley timewastes, not disputing that.

Can’t comment on Simpson, no idea what the first booking was for or what the second incident was. I did say I realised the ref was a liability when he let brown off of a blatant booking in the first half for a trip stopping an attack, so this isn’t me being biased.

Yes, were awful yesterday, not disputing that either.

None of that takes away from the fact the ref allowed them to pull arms and shirts and hold and waste time throughout the entire game, letting them kill off any momentum we were trying to build. And then to add insult to injury, there was no injury time.

I don’t recall one decision by the referee that changed the game. Against Stockport and Birmingham we saw that and the impact it can have.

Northampton were crap. We would have scored five or six against them in January. Christ they were playing Hoskins at right back and I think we managed to isolate him once. He would have come off at half time in January in need of stitches to his behind.

The referees have been average at best all season but barring the three extra minutes he should have allowed he didn’t do much wrong. We are kidding ourselves to think otherwise.

[Proposition Joe]

Why does the ref have to have made a game changing decision to be crap? He can still be crap and get most things wrong, even if none of the decisions are crucial. He was dire. Pointedly spoke to their keeper about timekeeping right before the second half kicked off and then proceeded to do nothing about it. As per HA, we time waste. It's not an issue with the principle. It's about him not doing anything about it, along with everything else he got wrong.

[DrWindy]

Why does the ref have to have made a game changing decision to be crap? He can still be crap and get most things wrong, even if none of the decisions are crucial. He was dire. Pointedly spoke to their keeper about timekeeping right before the second half kicked off and then proceeded to do nothing about it. As per HA, we time waste. It's not an issue with the principle. It's about him not doing anything about it, along with everything else he got wrong.

My point is that he didn’t impact the result. I agree he wasn’t great but I don’t think he favoured Northampton.

[Proposition Joe]

You said he was fine earlier.

[DrWindy]

He met my expectations. He was fine. With the risk of repeating myself we have had a lot worse. That’s not to say I think he was good.

He wasn’t the reason we lost.

[LittleMate]

I couldn’t believe that this was the amount of time being added on yesterday by the Ref.
It probably wouldn’t Have made much difference but it really should’ve been nearer 8 or 9 after the time wasting by their ‘keeper who IIRC wasn’t even booked……….plus all the substitutions, how was it only 4 ??

Apparently a new law is being introduced next season where Goalkeepers can only hold the ball for 8 seconds ( hopefully it will be enforced this time). If he holds onto it for longer the Referee will award a corner to his opponents. All in an effort to ‘speed up ‘ the game.

They will need a second new rule to speed up goal kicks, as that's where the main amount of time gets wasted in these situations. How about 20 seconds and the ball is live again? If the keeper still has it in his hands then its a corner, as per new rule 1?

[Chelmsford Swimmer]

Very pedantic having free kicks retaken for the sake of a couple of feet, and then totally ignoring throw ins taken yards further up the pitch. In general had a lack of authority allowing players to take the mick. Uncomprehensible why he stopped Sweeney breaking away to give us a free kick yards back with no advantage. Only 4 minutes injury time was a farce. Admittedly no game changing decisions, but definitely not fine.

[Chelmsford Swimmer]

I couldn’t believe that this was the amount of time being added on yesterday by the Ref.
It probably wouldn’t Have made much difference but it really should’ve been nearer 8 or 9 after the time wasting by their ‘keeper who IIRC wasn’t even booked……….plus all the substitutions, how was it only 4 ??

Apparently a new law is being introduced next season where Goalkeepers can only hold the ball for 8 seconds ( hopefully it will be enforced this time). If he holds onto it for longer the Referee will award a corner to his opponents. All in an effort to ‘speed up ‘ the game.

They will need a second new rule to speed up goal kicks, as that's where the main amount of time gets wasted in these situations. How about 20 seconds and the ball is live again? If the keeper still has it in his hands then its a corner, as per new rule 1?

Just change the game to fixed time in play similar to rugby, problem solved.

[George M]

I couldn’t believe that this was the amount of time being added on yesterday by the Ref.
It probably wouldn’t Have made much difference but it really should’ve been nearer 8 or 9 after the time wasting by their ‘keeper who IIRC wasn’t even booked……….plus all the substitutions, how was it only 4 ??

Apparently a new law is being introduced next season where Goalkeepers can only hold the ball for 8 seconds ( hopefully it will be enforced this time). If he holds onto it for longer the Referee will award a corner to his opponents. All in an effort to ‘speed up ‘ the game.

They will need a second new rule to speed up goal kicks, as that's where the main amount of time gets wasted in these situations. How about 20 seconds and the ball is live again? If the keeper still has it in his hands then its a corner, as per new rule 1?

Just change the game to fixed time in play similar to rugby, problem solved.

How about just Scoring the first goal. That stops the time wasting

[Cheshunto]

I couldn’t believe that this was the amount of time being added on yesterday by the Ref.
It probably wouldn’t Have made much difference but it really should’ve been nearer 8 or 9 after the time wasting by their ‘keeper who IIRC wasn’t even booked……….plus all the substitutions, how was it only 4 ??

Apparently a new law is being introduced next season where Goalkeepers can only hold the ball for 8 seconds ( hopefully it will be enforced this time). If he holds onto it for longer the Referee will award a corner to his opponents. All in an effort to ‘speed up ‘ the game.

They will need a second new rule to speed up goal kicks, as that's where the main amount of time gets wasted in these situations. How about 20 seconds and the ball is live again? If the keeper still has it in his hands then its a corner, as per new rule 1?

Just change the game to fixed time in play similar to rugby, problem solved.

I’ve posted this before, if a player goes down ‘injured’ then, as happens in Rugby, the clock stops. He can lay down for as long as he likes but the clock only starts again when play does.
Goal kicks are another issue where ‘keepers waste time………..20 seconds seems reasonable, and I agree, Orient are as guilty as others when it suits us.

I also noticed that we had no ball boys yesterday which helped their keeper waste time…….wonder why they weren’t there yesterday??

[E3Orient]

Unrelated apart from a loose link to perception of time but here is a Woody Allen quote:
"My girlfriend thinks I'm a lousy lover,
How can she make such a judgement in one minute"

[Hoover Attack]

They will need a second new rule to speed up goal kicks, as that's where the main amount of time gets wasted in these situations. How about 20 seconds and the ball is live again? If the keeper still has it in his hands then its a corner, as per new rule 1?

Just change the game to fixed time in play similar to rugby, problem solved.

How about just Scoring the first goal. That stops the time wasting

fair comment

[Hoover Attack]

I couldn’t believe that this was the amount of time being added on yesterday by the Ref.
It probably wouldn’t Have made much difference but it really should’ve been nearer 8 or 9 after the time wasting by their ‘keeper who IIRC wasn’t even booked……….plus all the substitutions, how was it only 4 ??

Apparently a new law is being introduced next season where Goalkeepers can only hold the ball for 8 seconds ( hopefully it will be enforced this time). If he holds onto it for longer the Referee will award a corner to his opponents. All in an effort to ‘speed up ‘ the game.

They will need a second new rule to speed up goal kicks, as that's where the main amount of time gets wasted in these situations. How about 20 seconds and the ball is live again? If the keeper still has it in his hands then its a corner, as per new rule 1?

As others have said, just need the ref to have 1) awareness of the game and what is happening and 2) authority to caution players and stop it happening.

If the ref wasn’t as weak and clueless as he was, the existing rules would suffice.

[Hoover Attack]

Why does the ref have to have made a game changing decision to be crap? He can still be crap and get most things wrong, even if none of the decisions are crucial. He was dire. Pointedly spoke to their keeper about timekeeping right before the second half kicked off and then proceeded to do nothing about it. As per HA, we time waste. It's not an issue with the principle. It's about him not doing anything about it, along with everything else he got wrong.

My point is that he didn’t impact the result. I agree he wasn’t great but I don’t think he favoured Northampton.

I’m not saying he favoured anyone. I said the first time I thought oh sh*t, he’s one of those refs, was when he failed to book Jordan Brown.

He allowed Northampton to manage the game and let it peter out into a non-event.

[Hedmans Header]

Ref was American been referring in the MLS
up until 2023, he was poor not letting the
game flow ..
Don’t get me wrong the best side won the
game, but if that’s the standard of refs we
can expect in the EFL lower divisions in the
future the standard is going to be on a
downwards spiral very quickly..