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I’ve had my doubts, but the truth is Ross proved he is learning and fast. Tuesday was a masterful performance from our interim Head Coach changing things around and he can take full credit for a supreme result. Surprised the hell out of me.

I truly hope that following a couple more good results we finally ditch the interim tag the Board their trust in Ross and give him the gig.

Well done Ross.

Is Ross definitely in the running for the Job Doh '

He may feel he only wants it untill the club are in a position to really move on.

I quite like the bloke so if he wants it & gets it id be happy enough.

Interim could suggest it was only ever meant to be untill the " Right Man"
Was available, whoever that might be

Still too early in my opinion , yes Tuesday was brilliant but lets have a few more games to see how it goes

I’ll go along with that. It’s looking promising but you can’t make an informed judgement until 10 or more games.

Just as some people on other threads have called for his head after one or two games, which is ridiculous, so it is equally ridiculous to say that because we win a game from a losing position he becomes permanent head coach
Nothing will ( or should) be decided either way until at least a dozen games

Not yet but give him a chance.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:56 pm Just as some people on other threads have called for his head after one or two games, which is ridiculous, so it is equally ridiculous to say that because we win a game from a losing position he becomes permanent head coach
Nothing will ( or should) be decided either way until at least a dozen games

Did say after a couple more positive results. Nobody said after one good game.

Ross always needed to be given a fair crack at it before a decision could be made, but a fabulous result on Tuesday, which to me feels like we and he have arrived back in the EFL, after the emotion of the opening game and disappointing score-less results to follow.

Good luck to Ross, confidence should be high after Mansfield, let’s nail some more wins!

BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:29 pm Still too early in my opinion , yes Tuesday was brilliant but lets have a few more games to see how it goes

Totally agree, one swallow doesn’t make a summer.

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:45 am

BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:29 pm Still too early in my opinion , yes Tuesday was brilliant but lets have a few more games to see how it goes

Totally agree, one swallow doesn’t make a summer.

But one pigeon can make a mess of your sandwich

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Reflecto wrote: ↑
There is no room for sentiment (we lost JE - terrible, RIP) but we just cannot afford to lose our League Status

Spot on, stop the rot replace Embleton pronto !!

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:56 pm Just as some people on other threads have called for his head after one or two games, which is ridiculous, so it is equally ridiculous to say that because we win a game from a losing position he becomes permanent head coach
Nothing will ( or should) be decided either way until at least a dozen games

Pretty much this. Why does everything have to be an immediate decision nowadays? Leave him be, give him a proper amount of time and then we'll see. Statistically, it's proven that chopping and changing managers is no more likely to bring success. As long as we're not in real danger of going back down, EmbletIN should probably get the full season.

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PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:45 am

BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:29 pm Still too early in my opinion , yes Tuesday was brilliant but lets have a few more games to see how it goes

Totally agree, one swallow doesn’t make a summer.

But one pigeon can make a mess of your sandwich

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Reflecto wrote: ↑
There is no room for sentiment (we lost JE - terrible, RIP) but we just cannot afford to lose our League Status

Spot on, stop the rot replace Embleton pronto !!

On what grounds, four games into the season and we are two points off the top? We have new players who need to establish themselves in the team.

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:45 am

BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:29 pm Still too early in my opinion , yes Tuesday was brilliant but lets have a few more games to see how it goes

Totally agree, one swallow doesn’t make a summer.

I agree with that but Tuesday night was very encouraging. As others have said, let’s see how we’re going after another few games.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:56 pm Just as some people on other threads have called for his head after one or two games, which is ridiculous, so it is equally ridiculous to say that because we win a game from a losing position he becomes permanent head coach
Nothing will ( or should) be decided either way until at least a dozen games

Exactly this. I would say give him about 10 games,15 would be getting on towards christmas. Some people go way over the top with things like this: ' screaming for his head' and all that. No one I'm sure, is in this thinking mode. Apart from anything else does Ross himself want the job on a permanent basis ? Anyway, well done to him for a brilliant result the other night. But let's not get too carried away.

It is all about time for Ross Embleton. If Orient get into the play off/promotion places soon and stay there into 2020, he will have earned the job and more. Staying clear of the bottom two (or potentially bottom) will keep him in charge until the end of the season.
I did think that if they had lost to Mansfield (which looked likely after 30 minutes) that he would have been under pressure to get something out of the Crawley and Salford games, whereas now that has eased considerably.
He will continue to be interim head coach into 2020 barring disasters.

We should not forget that it is a management TEAM and I am sure that Webb and MacAnuff were part of the decision-making process half time at Mansfield

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:45 am

BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:29 pm Still too early in my opinion , yes Tuesday was brilliant but lets have a few more games to see how it goes

Totally agree, one swallow doesn’t make a summer.

Did say after a couple more positive results. Of course one game no matter how good is it

Not yet.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:00 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:45 am

BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:29 pm Still too early in my opinion , yes Tuesday was brilliant but lets have a few more games to see how it goes

Totally agree, one swallow doesn’t make a summer.

Did say after a couple more positive results. Of course one game no matter how good is it

What Poundhill said.

Simply - not yet.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:04 pm I’ve had my doubts, but the truth is Ross proved he is learning and fast. Tuesday was a masterful performance from our interim Head Coach changing things around and he can take full credit for a supreme result. Surprised the hell out of me.

I truly hope that following a couple more good results we finally ditch the interim tag the Board their trust in Ross and give him the gig.

Well done Ross.

You're the expert on management bro, I'll let you decide.

jamespevans wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:23 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:04 pm I’ve had my doubts, but the truth is Ross proved he is learning and fast. Tuesday was a masterful performance from our interim Head Coach changing things around and he can take full credit for a supreme result. Surprised the hell out of me.

I truly hope that following a couple more good results we finally ditch the interim tag the Board their trust in Ross and give him the gig.

Well done Ross.

You're the expert on management bro, I'll let you decide.

Lord 'elp us...

Not yet but the enforced formation change at 2-0 down may have increased his chances of getting it. Had we lost that game by the odd goal, especially a "soft" penalty he would likely have stuck with the 3-5-2 and resulting lack of goals.

What we have done is answer some of the squad issues ahead of the transfer window. Wide man and CM now brought in, hopefully the latter turns out to be the type of player we need there. In an ideal world would like another out and out striker but realistically it'll be Dennis covering two attacking roles (wide and upfront) with Alabi in a fringe role.

BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:29 pm Still too early in my opinion , yes Tuesday was brilliant but lets have a few more games to see how it goes

I’m with you on that one Ron. 10 to 12 games should give a clearer picture and allow the club to take stock and then act accordingly.

You've got to give it at least 10 games to get a clear picture, league wise, 2 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss is pretty good going really results wise