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Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:53 am**

I see that a guy from Lancashire was killed by one of these yesterday. Truly awful, but the silver lining is that it was the owner who was mauled and not some unsuspecting pedestrian just out for a walk. I admit that I find it hard to have a lot of sympathy for people who are stupid enough to have these things pounding around their homes. I know that the government has put restrictions on ownership of this breed but I still see them out and about unmuzzled and in some cases not even on a lead. And it's not just wannabe tough guys who have them, but ordinary looking people. What is wrong with them?

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:02 pm**

Owners getting mauled to death is evolution before our eyes. People are stupid.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:51 pm**

We are too weak. There should be a small list of breeds we can own and ban the rest. A list of 10 breeds should be more than enough for the morons that want dogs .

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:10 pm**

George M wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:51 pm We are too weak. There should be a small list of breeds we can own and ban the rest. A list of 10 breeds should be more than enough for the morons that want dogs .

Generic vitriol towards pet owners is generally a very healthy sign.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:10 pm**

Why do some people want to keep these killers?

You reap what you sow.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:13 pm**

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:10 pm
George M wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:51 pm We are too weak. There should be a small list of breeds we can own and ban the rest. A list of 10 breeds should be more than enough for the morons that want dogs .
Generic vitriol towards pet owners is generally a very healthy sign.

Never met a dog owner who can give me a sensible reason for owning a pet dog. I can give you plenty for not owning one. Whilst we are on the subject, I also believe that pet dogs should not be allowed to be owned if you live in a city.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:15 pm**

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:10 pm
George M wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:51 pm We are too weak. There should be a small list of breeds we can own and ban the rest. A list of 10 breeds should be more than enough for the morons that want dogs .
Generic vitriol towards pet owners is generally a very healthy sign.

I have no ill-feeling toward owners of gerbils, budgies or goldfish - but the owners of vicious animals which regularly kill people, well I don't really class them as pet owners

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:16 pm**

Celtient wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:15 pm
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:10 pm
George M wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:51 pm We are too weak. There should be a small list of breeds we can own and ban the rest. A list of 10 breeds should be more than enough for the morons that want dogs .
Generic vitriol towards pet owners is generally a very healthy sign.
I have no ill-feeling toward owners of gerbils, budgies or goldfish - but the owners of vicious animals which regularly kill people, well I don't really class them as pet owners

Wasn't aimed at you, tbh.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:21 pm**

Celtient wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:15 pm
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:10 pm
George M wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:51 pm We are too weak. There should be a small list of breeds we can own and ban the rest. A list of 10 breeds should be more than enough for the morons that want dogs .
Generic vitriol towards pet owners is generally a very healthy sign.
I have no ill-feeling toward owners of gerbils, budgies or goldfish - but the owners of vicious animals which regularly kill people, well I don't really class them as pet owners

And Sunak had the opportunity to do something about it and bottled it

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:22 pm**

Celtient wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:53 am I see that a guy from Lancashire was killed by one of these yesterday. Truly awful, but the silver lining is that it was the owner who was mauled and not some unsuspecting pedestrian just out for a walk. I admit that I find it hard to have a lot of sympathy for people who are stupid enough to have these things pounding around their homes. I know that the government has put restrictions on ownership of this breed but I still see them out and about unmuzzled and in some cases not even on a lead. And it's not just wannabe tough guys who have them, but ordinary looking people. What is wrong with them?

They are thick . That’s what’s wrong with them.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:25 pm**

I just don't get why you would want to own one, they are killing machines, this is not a normal breed of dog that has had a turn they are built like monsters

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:41 pm**

Much as I maintain it's a real red flag to be so blanketly anti-dog ownership, do also struggle to understand the appeal of these kind of dogs. They're only being bred because people keep buying them. If you want a dog, there's 1000s of them out there already needing a home, some of them are right big bastards if that's your jam, go and pick one of them up and give them some love. If you're buying a Literal Fighting Dog for a couple of grand off some low level crim on Facebook Marketplace, then you're probably an idiot.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:45 pm**

Two of the softest, gentlest dogs I know are a massive bloody Doberman and a Staffie, both dogs that some people find a bit intimidating and have had a bit of a bad rep. But they're usually lovely dogs. XLs on the other hand always give me the willies. Sure some of them are grand but they do look terrifying.

While we're at it, pugs and toy mixed Labradoodlechiwahcollies etc can f*** off though.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:06 pm**

I'm quite wary of most dogs if they're not small enough to be booted in the air if they go for me. Dogs don't like me generally and the feeling is mutual. I've never met a nasty spaniel though.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:10 pm**

Dogs are pretty good judges of character.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:16 pm**

Another geezer killed in Birmingham now by his own dogs by the sound of it

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:20 pm**

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:10 pm Dogs are pretty good judges of character.

And I'm pretty good at judging the character of dogs.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:21 pm**

Loads in Havering, no mussles, but saying that, tge owners could do with one as well

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:25 pm**

Celtient wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:16 pm Another geezer killed in Birmingham now by his own dogs by the sound of it

Although these weren't XL Bullies.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 4:45 pm**

American bulldog " types" did the business in this case apparently. There's no actual definition of an XL as they can have various breeds in them

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:44 pm**

They frighten the poo poo out of me.

Posted: **Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:17 pm**

Dunno if it was one of these but was walking down gracechurch street earlier and some geezer (possibly homeless) was bowling it along with the biggest dog I have literally ever seen. Pissing up buildings and dribbling. No muzzle, no lead. Actually terrifying.

Posted: **Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:04 am**

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:17 pm Pissing up buildings and dribbling. No muzzle, no lead. Actually terrifying.

How did he keep control of the dog whilst doing all that?

Posted: **Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:22 am**

The dog was urinating in public!?

Posted: **Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:33 am**

Obviously. When outdoors, dogs are compelled to piss every 5 seconds. Ridiculous behaviour. Even Mrs C doesn't go that often

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