La Liga v EFL

[Winchestorfan]

Sadly earlier today at the match between Granada and Athletic Bilbao a fan had a cardiac arrest and died. The match was abandoned after 17 minutes with the score at 0 1 to Bilbao. It was then announced that the match would be completed tomorrow, Monday. So at kick off 17 minutes will already have been played with a starting score of 0 1.

La Liga sorted this out in a matter of a few hours yet it took the EFL two weeks to make a decision about our match abandoned after 84 minutes when the score was 1 0. The result of this inaction probably cost us 3 points. Perhaps the EFL should ask La Liga for some help and advice.

[gshaw]

The EFL aren't fit for purpose, they've shown that time and again. Why Travis thinks they're friends of LOFC is beyond me.

[Tuffers#2]

Finished 1-1
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67677448


F#ck the EFL

[BiggsyMalone]

The logistics of Lincoln playing the game the next day was next to impossible. It shouldn’t have taken 2 weeks but the game was never going to be played that quickly.

[Hoover Attack]

Exactly. It's not as if there are any hotels anywhere in London they could have stayed over at.

[BiggsyMalone]

Exactly. It's not as if there are any hotels anywhere in London they could have stayed over at.

You find a hotel with 20 odd rooms available at gone 23:00. These aren’t clubs with losds of money to throw around.

[Mistadobalina]

The logistics of Lincoln playing the game the next day was next to impossible. It shouldn’t have taken 2 weeks but the game was never going to be played that quickly.

I mean there's an example cited here where exactly this happened but if you say so. And it also assumes Lincoln wouldn't have been staying in London after the game anyway, which is pretty normal for a long distance Tuesday night away game.

[Hoover Attack]

Exactly. It's not as if there are any hotels anywhere in London they could have stayed over at.

You find a hotel with 20 odd rooms available at gone 23:00. These aren’t clubs with losds of money to throw around.

It was an October Tuesday night in London, not the 24th December in Bethlehem.

A couple of tweets from the FA/EFL would have soon sourced necessary accommodation.

[Hoover Attack]

it also assumes Lincoln wouldn't have been staying in London after the game anyway,

Unlikely mate, you hardly get any hotels in that London these days.

[Proposition Joe]

it also assumes Lincoln wouldn't have been staying in London after the game anyway,

Unlikely mate, you hardly get any hotels in that London these days.

All occupied by asylum seekers, innit.

[gshaw]

Exactly. It's not as if there are any hotels anywhere in London they could have stayed over at.

You find a hotel with 20 odd rooms available at gone 23:00. These aren’t clubs with losds of money to throw around.

That's why the EFL could easily have offered two solutions

1) you continue the game tomorrow and sort your own travel etc.
2) accept the result as it stands to maintain the "sporting integrity" of the 84 minutes played

[BiggsyMalone]

The logistics of Lincoln playing the game the next day was next to impossible. It shouldn’t have taken 2 weeks but the game was never going to be played that quickly.

I mean there's an example cited here where exactly this happened but if you say so. And it also assumes Lincoln wouldn't have been staying in London after the game anyway, which is pretty normal for a long distance Tuesday night away game.

They would have got the coach straight back after the game. The other example is La Liga where teams have budgets Lincoln could only dream of

[BiggsyMalone]

Exactly. It's not as if there are any hotels anywhere in London they could have stayed over at.

You find a hotel with 20 odd rooms available at gone 23:00. These aren’t clubs with losds of money to throw around.

That's why the EFL could easily have offered two solutions

1) you continue the game tomorrow and sort your own travel etc.
2) accept the result as it stands to maintain the "sporting integrity" of the 84 minutes played

1. It wasn’t their fault
2. Why should they?

[Mistadobalina]

The logistics of Lincoln playing the game the next day was next to impossible. It shouldn’t have taken 2 weeks but the game was never going to be played that quickly.

I mean there's an example cited here where exactly this happened but if you say so. And it also assumes Lincoln wouldn't have been staying in London after the game anyway, which is pretty normal for a long distance Tuesday night away game.

They would have got the coach straight back after the game. The other example is La Liga where teams have budgets Lincoln could only dream of

So you agree getting a hotel last minute is possible. It's going to cost a few grand to put up the entire squad and I'm sure the EFL could create a contingency fund for exceptional circumstances where a game has to be replayed the next day. What happened with the result is clearly ridiculous.

[Tuffers#2]

You find a hotel with 20 odd rooms available at gone 23:00. These aren’t clubs with losds of money to throw around.

That's why the EFL could easily have offered two solutions

1) you continue the game tomorrow and sort your own travel etc.
2) accept the result as it stands to maintain the "sporting integrity" of the 84 minutes played

1. It wasn’t their fault
2. Why should they?

1. It wasn't our fault
2. Because they would of have started with the same manager & Squad. So would we.

[spen666]

Exactly. It's not as if there are any hotels anywhere in London they could have stayed over at.

You find a hotel with 20 odd rooms available at gone 23:00. These aren’t clubs with losds of money to throw around.

That's why the EFL could easily have offered two solutions

1) you continue the game tomorrow and sort your own travel etc.
2) accept the result as it stands to maintain the "sporting integrity" of the 84 minutes played

In relation to point 2, this is a non starter as a game of football under the laws of the game has to consist of 2 halves of 45 mins. There were not 2 halves of 45 mins when 2nd half was only around 39 mins long.

Not sure how there can be sporting integrity when you do not comply with the laws of the game

[Tuffers#2]

You find a hotel with 20 odd rooms available at gone 23:00. These aren’t clubs with losds of money to throw around.

That's why the EFL could easily have offered two solutions

1) you continue the game tomorrow and sort your own travel etc.
2) accept the result as it stands to maintain the "sporting integrity" of the 84 minutes played

In relation to point 2, this is a non starter as a game of football under the laws of the game has to consist of 2 halves of 45 mins. There were not 2 halves of 45 mins when 2nd half was only around 39 mins long.

Not sure how there can be sporting integrity when you do not comply with the laws of the game

But but but the game the ref blew early we had half-time & then played a 3 minute half then turned around for a 3rd 45 minute half.
3 half's in 1 match .

[Winchestorfan]

Finding 22 rooms on a Tuesday night would be no problem at all. Just one call to one of the numerous booking agencies would have sorted this within minutes. Compared to cost of rescheduling the match I very much doubt there would have been much difference. Game should have been completed next morning behind closed doors.

We have probably lost 3 points due to EFL indecision. Suppose we end up in 21st position purely because of goal difference where just one point would have made us safe?

The whole thing is an absolute fiasco. Facing a different team, under a different manager, is hardly a fair outcome

[BiggsyMalone]

I mean there's an example cited here where exactly this happened but if you say so. And it also assumes Lincoln wouldn't have been staying in London after the game anyway, which is pretty normal for a long distance Tuesday night away game.

They would have got the coach straight back after the game. The other example is La Liga where teams have budgets Lincoln could only dream of

So you agree getting a hotel last minute is possible. It's going to cost a few grand to put up the entire squad and I'm sure the EFL could create a contingency fund for exceptional circumstances where a game has to be replayed the next day. What happened with the result is clearly ridiculous.

Do you know what ‘next to impossible’ means?

[Holybourne Identity]

It will be interesting to see what happens next time. During the same week there was a fatality at one of the NFL matches played in London and a similar, non-fatal incident at Sunderland.

For reasons of sporting integrity I don't believe Lincoln were obligated to accept the result as it stood. However, there is a lack of sporting integrity in the 84 minutes played being excised from history, and different players and management involved when the match was replayed. The La Liga example is a much fairer outcome to arise from a very sad situation.

[Proposition Joe]

They would have got the coach straight back after the game. The other example is La Liga where teams have budgets Lincoln could only dream of

So you agree getting a hotel last minute is possible. It's going to cost a few grand to put up the entire squad and I'm sure the EFL could create a contingency fund for exceptional circumstances where a game has to be replayed the next day. What happened with the result is clearly ridiculous.

Do you know what ‘next to impossible’ means?

It still wouldn't describe finding somewhere for a L1 side to stay within a reasonable distance of E10.

[spen666]

It will be interesting to see what happens next time. During the same week there was a fatality at one of the NFL matches played in London and a similar, non-fatal incident at Sunderland.

For reasons of sporting integrity I don't believe Lincoln were obligated to accept the result as it stood. However, there is a lack of sporting integrity in the 84 minutes played being excised from history, and different players and management involved when the match was replayed. The La Liga example is a much fairer outcome to arise from a very sad situation.

The Laws of Football provide that a game consists of 2 halves of 45 minutes.

Under the Laws of the Game, the result of the abandoned game could not stand as there had not been a completed game

Sporting Integrity means complying with the laws of the game. The only thing guaranteed to undermine sporting integrity is to ignore the laws of the game, mid competition


All teams in the EFL know the laws of the game require 2 halves of 45 minutes to be played.


What is your definition of sporting integrity? Is it ignoring the rules all other teams play by? Is it manipulating an unfortunate event to suit your club ignoring every other team in the competition.

Perhaps you think, we should end every game after the 1st goal? Ignore the fact the laws require a game of 90 minutes?

Sporting Integrity requires compliance with the Laws of the Game - as applies to every team and not trying to manipulate them mid game to suit your team

[Tuffers#2]

It will be interesting to see what happens next time. During the same week there was a fatality at one of the NFL matches played in London and a similar, non-fatal incident at Sunderland.

For reasons of sporting integrity I don't believe Lincoln were obligated to accept the result as it stood. However, there is a lack of sporting integrity in the 84 minutes played being excised from history, and different players and management involved when the match was replayed. The La Liga example is a much fairer outcome to arise from a very sad situation.

The Laws of Football provide that a game consists of 2 halves of 45 minutes.

Under the Laws of the Game, the result of the abandoned game could not stand as there had not been a completed game

Sporting Integrity means complying with the laws of the game. The only thing guaranteed to undermine sporting integrity is to ignore the laws of the game, mid competition


All teams in the EFL know the laws of the game require 2 halves of 45 minutes to be played.


What is your definition of sporting integrity? Is it ignoring the rules all other teams play by? Is it manipulating an unfortunate event to suit your club ignoring every other team in the competition.

Perhaps you think, we should end every game after the 1st goal? Ignore the fact the laws require a game of 90 minutes?

Sporting Integrity requires compliance with the Laws of the Game - as applies to every team and not trying to manipulate them mid game to suit your team

Again we played 3 periods of footbal equating to 90 minutes, so rules can be re written ?

[spen666]

It will be interesting to see what happens next time. During the same week there was a fatality at one of the NFL matches played in London and a similar, non-fatal incident at Sunderland.

For reasons of sporting integrity I don't believe Lincoln were obligated to accept the result as it stood. However, there is a lack of sporting integrity in the 84 minutes played being excised from history, and different players and management involved when the match was replayed. The La Liga example is a much fairer outcome to arise from a very sad situation.

The Laws of Football provide that a game consists of 2 halves of 45 minutes.

Under the Laws of the Game, the result of the abandoned game could not stand as there had not been a completed game

Sporting Integrity means complying with the laws of the game. The only thing guaranteed to undermine sporting integrity is to ignore the laws of the game, mid competition


All teams in the EFL know the laws of the game require 2 halves of 45 minutes to be played.


What is your definition of sporting integrity? Is it ignoring the rules all other teams play by? Is it manipulating an unfortunate event to suit your club ignoring every other team in the competition.

Perhaps you think, we should end every game after the 1st goal? Ignore the fact the laws require a game of 90 minutes?

Sporting Integrity requires compliance with the Laws of the Game - as applies to every team and not trying to manipulate them mid game to suit your team

Again we played 3 periods of footbal equating to 90 minutes, so rules can be re written ?

By your inaccurate logic, every game is hundreds of "halves". Every time the whistle blows ends a "half"


The game you refer to there were 2 halves. Albeit a 15 minute gap in 1st half.


In any event 90 minutes were played unlike the abandoned Lincoln one

[Winchestorfan]

It will be interesting to see what happens next time. During the same week there was a fatality at one of the NFL matches played in London and a similar, non-fatal incident at Sunderland.

For reasons of sporting integrity I don't believe Lincoln were obligated to accept the result as it stood. However, there is a lack of sporting integrity in the 84 minutes played being excised from history, and different players and management involved when the match was replayed. The La Liga example is a much fairer outcome to arise from a very sad situation.

The Laws of Football provide that a game consists of 2 halves of 45 minutes.

Under the Laws of the Game, the result of the abandoned game could not stand as there had not been a completed game

Sporting Integrity means complying with the laws of the game. The only thing guaranteed to undermine sporting integrity is to ignore the laws of the game, mid competition


All teams in the EFL know the laws of the game require 2 halves of 45 minutes to be played.


What is your definition of sporting integrity? Is it ignoring the rules all other teams play by? Is it manipulating an unfortunate event to suit your club ignoring every other team in the competition.

Perhaps you think, we should end every game after the 1st goal? Ignore the fact the laws require a game of 90 minutes?

Sporting Integrity requires compliance with the Laws of the Game - as applies to every team and not trying to manipulate them mid game to suit your team

When our match with Colchester was ‘abandoned’ due to a pitch invasion the stadium was cleared. The game then resumed and the full 90 minutes completed behind closed
doors.

This was I believe over an hour after the match was ‘abandoned’ . So was that sporting integrity or what? I fail to see the difference between the abandonment of that match and the one with Lincoln.

One was completed with the scores standing at time of abandonment and the match duly completed hours later with the same players and management. The result did not change. The other was scratched from the record books and played again weeks later, as we know, with different players , different manager and the result was reversed,

The interpretation of the ‘rules’ should be the same for both matches. As stated before the EFL is not fit for purpose.