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The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:49 am About time the correct name for the place is being recognised

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:44 am The indigenous population of the islands seem to want the place to be called The Falkland Islands. But for some reason, some non-residents seem to think that the will of an imperialist colonial state located about 1,000 miles away, with a recent history of fascist military dictatorship and invasion tendencies, should take priority.

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:55 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:44 am The indigenous population of the islands seem to want the place to be called The Falkland Islands. But for some reason, some non-residents seem to think that the will of an imperialist colonial state located about 1,000 miles away, with a recent history of fascist military dictatorship and invasion tendencies, should take priority.

I thought the only indigenous population were penguins? How have expressed their preference?

Oisin Hardy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:06 am

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:49 am About time the correct name for the place is being recognised

Where is this it sounds like a Lidls red wine?

• There was no previous population displaced by the initial colonisers. The Islands were as empty as Australia was when the first peoples arrived.

• Prior to the war, the population expressed an overwhelming desire to remain a British territory.

• There was British political interest in a pragmatic solution of shared sovereignty of the islands with Argentina, possibly leading to full assignment should the population want that in the future (the UK government didn’t want the expense).

• But Argentina (which is itself a colonial project from when Iberian conquerors slaughtered the previous inhabitants and stole their lands – but let’s conveniently overlook that) decided to invade with a military force and occupy the islands against the wishes of the population.

• They did this to distract their own citizens from their oppression and political and financial incompetence, not because of any just cause.

• The British forces set sail, one thing led to another, and the Argentinians had their arses handed to them on a plate.

• Even the sinking of the Belgrano, which is often seized upon as an example of how awful Britain is, was confirmed as a legitimate target by its own Captain (but let's also conveniently overlook that).

• The Argentinian forces then f*cked off home and eventually the military dictatorship collapsed.

• The local population were liberated, and their resolve to remain British is now even firmer and any notion of shared sovereignty has now been pushed back for generations. All thanks to Argentina's reckless behavour.

• But Britain bad.

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:49 am About time the correct name for the place is being recognised

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:16 am A bit harsh RD. Next you'll be calling for the nuking of the French for using Londres instead of London.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:16 am A bit harsh RD. Next you'll be calling for the nuking of the French for using Londres instead of London.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:13 am We all know why this topic has sprung up it"s because the EU called the Falklands The Malvinas . Well British lives were lost defending the people who lived on those islands . If WW3 ever breaks out I hope the first nuke lands right on Brussels .

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:11 am Had never actually thought about it from that point of view, Dunners. I can't think of anywhere else where the present day international community (or at least, large parts of it) say to a population "stuff what you want, we're calling you this".

EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:20 pm Back to the original post, so should we start calling Germany "Deutschland" etc etc from now on too?!

spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:28 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:11 am Had never actually thought about it from that point of view, Dunners. I can't think of anywhere else where the present day international community (or at least, large parts of it) say to a population "stuff what you want, we're calling you this".

Gibraltar?

Lost not Found wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:23 pm I've spoken to the chief of staff for the penguin regiment and he says that he is rather fond of tea and British cheese so definitely identified as British as well.

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The EU are on a wind up and the usual gammons have fallen for it. Their reticence in any response to Russia rolling up to their own doorstep suggests they're unlikely to be getting involved in any shenanigans in the southern hemisphere so hardly any need to worry.

I wonder if there's any domestic issues at home the Argentinans want to distract from? While also providing some red meat for our rather sub standard government to try and posture over.

Lost not Found wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:23 pm
The EU are on a wind up

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:49 am About time the correct name for the place is being recognised