Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:24 pm
Comment about Malcolm Riflind about three above mocking the former very experienced Defence Secretary’Malcolm Rifling F LOL’
I suggested that it could have been worse had we had Thornberry or Healy.
I then merely pointed out that Corbyn nearly achieving high office was due to Miliband . I meant he lost an election and should not have been leader in first place as David Miliband was the better prospect by far.
I would have voted for Miliband like I voted for Blair. Unfortunately, Blair turned out to be a ready poised warmonger.
What could have been worse under Corbyn? Please feel free to add some workings when you present your answer
Well he has historically sided with Terrorist groups ( most MPs classed the groups he supported as terrorists , except for a select few, His fellow left wing colleagues.
He spent over thirty years on the back benches voting against almost everything his party and the conservatives introduce. Showed no interest in a cabinet or leadership candidacy.
He was a staunch anti EU politician, then as leader sat on the fence.
His cabinet appointed were highly inexperienced .
He has been antisemitic , whip withdrawn.
None of his re nationalisation ideas added up.
His general stance on Nuclear Deterrence , the armed forces, NATO and Defence would have left us extremely vulnerable.
Don’t get me wrong the Tories have been very bad in many examples but like the result of the election proved, when push came to shove, the average votor saw Corbyn as a disaster and despite doing well , he did not win.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:29 pm
by Daily Express bot
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:24 pm
LCL why do you keep using the term Sovereign State so weirdly and also why do you keep capitalising it?
Yes you are right , no need for capitals. It is a recognised sovereign state by most of the world except by a few Muslim nations led by unelected despots. For this reason , long term peace is almost impossible.
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:24 pm
Comment about Malcolm Riflind about three above mocking the former very experienced Defence Secretary’Malcolm Rifling F LOL’
I suggested that it could have been worse had we had Thornberry or Healy.
I then merely pointed out that Corbyn nearly achieving high office was due to Miliband . I meant he lost an election and should not have been leader in first place as David Miliband was the better prospect by far.
I would have voted for Miliband like I voted for Blair. Unfortunately, Blair turned out to be a ready poised warmonger.
What could have been worse under Corbyn? Please feel free to add some workings when you present your answer
Well he has historically sided with Terrorist groups ( most MPs classed the groups he supported as terrorists , except for a select few, His fellow left wing colleagues.
He spent over thirty years on the back benches voting against almost everything his party and the conservatives introduce. Showed no interest in a cabinet or leadership candidacy.
He was a staunch anti EU politician, then as leader sat on the fence.
His cabinet appointed were highly inexperienced .
He has been antisemitic , whip withdrawn.
None of his re nationalisation ideas added up.
His general stance on Nuclear Deterrence , the armed forces, NATO and Defence would have left us extremely vulnerable.
Don’t get me wrong the Tories have been very bad in many examples but like the result of the election proved, when push came to shove, the average votor saw Corbyn as a disaster and despite doing well , he did not win.
I’ve tried to give you the benefit of doubt, but it’s now 8pm (local time) here, and I’ve finally had to conclude that you’re what we would have called at school (edited).
What could have been worse under Corbyn? Please feel free to add some workings when you present your answer
Well he has historically sided with Terrorist groups ( most MPs classed the groups he supported as terrorists , except for a select few, His fellow left wing colleagues.
He spent over thirty years on the back benches voting against almost everything his party and the conservatives introduce. Showed no interest in a cabinet or leadership candidacy.
He was a staunch anti EU politician, then as leader sat on the fence.
His cabinet appointed were highly inexperienced .
He has been antisemitic , whip withdrawn.
None of his re nationalisation ideas added up.
His general stance on Nuclear Deterrence , the armed forces, NATO and Defence would have left us extremely vulnerable.
Don’t get me wrong the Tories have been very bad in many examples but like the result of the election proved, when push came to shove, the average votor saw Corbyn as a disaster and despite doing well , he did not win.
I’ve tried to give you the benefit of doubt, but it’s now 8pm (local time) here, and I’ve finally had to conclude that you’re what we would have called at school “an utter edited”.
On foe you go.
Bit of a derogatory term that? Some people have family and friends who are disabled. In fact that phrase went out many years ago with Mencap dropping the former name. Your hero Corbyn would never use such language either. Shame on you.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:08 pm
by Dunners
On the topic of misinformation, I've already provided a possible example of this from Hamas. So for balance, here's a possible example from the Israeli side.
The footage is reportedly taken from a video game.
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:24 pm
Comment about Malcolm Riflind about three above mocking the former very experienced Defence Secretary’Malcolm Rifling F LOL’
I suggested that it could have been worse had we had Thornberry or Healy.
I then merely pointed out that Corbyn nearly achieving high office was due to Miliband . I meant he lost an election and should not have been leader in first place as David Miliband was the better prospect by far.
I would have voted for Miliband like I voted for Blair. Unfortunately, Blair turned out to be a ready poised warmonger.
What could have been worse under Corbyn? Please feel free to add some workings when you present your answer
Well he has historically sided with Terrorist groups ( most MPs classed the groups he supported as terrorists , except for a select few, His fellow left wing colleagues.
He spent over thirty years on the back benches voting against almost everything his party and the conservatives introduce. Showed no interest in a cabinet or leadership candidacy.
He was a staunch anti EU politician, then as leader sat on the fence.
His cabinet appointed were highly inexperienced .
He has been antisemitic , whip withdrawn.
None of his re nationalisation ideas added up.
His general stance on Nuclear Deterrence , the armed forces, NATO and Defence would have left us extremely vulnerable.
Don’t get me wrong the Tories have been very bad in many examples but like the result of the election proved, when push came to shove, the average votor saw Corbyn as a disaster and despite doing well , he did not win.
Have you ever met Dohnut who used to frequent these parts? You are very similar…. Were you ever a president in business?
In response.
1. Your claim on anti semitism is entirely incorrect. He had the whip withdrawn for his response to the EHRC report into anti-semitism.
2. Nationalisation things like utilities etc are quite popular with the electorate. Nationalising parts of the railway is already taking place.
3. Might come as a surprise but a socialist is likely to oppose conservative / neo liberal policies. Feel free to let me know which things he voted against that turned out badly for him,
4. Corbyn / Labour we’re committed to NATO membership and the nuclear deterrent during his leadership.
Still be interested to know how you think he’d have made things worse than they are already? Seeing as the country and the economy is an utter f*cking skip fire.
Always amazed how 3 years on from his departure, supposed sensible moderates still seem obsessed by a 75 year old socialist and peace campaigner who proposed nothing more radical than funding public services and nationalising things we used to own.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:19 pm
by BoniO
Maybe it's because they have nothing else.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:21 pm
by Admin
FAO Stowaway.
I’ve edited your post. The term used within is not acceptable.
First offence means you escape a banning. Please do not use that term again.
FTC
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:27 pm
by Daily Express bot
I don’t know doughnut. To give Corbyn his due , he does stick by his principles and is unwavering. He does stand up for the small man and is extremely articulate. I think how he was even nominated scare the life out of the party generally and I think it was the £3 or £4 membership that allowed this. I think they may have changed this now possibly.
Whatever the reason for his suspension from Labour, I think Starmer prefers him out of the picture as he knows his endorsement of him will come back to haunt him in the neck t campaign. Maybe Starmer is pulling strings to delay his judgement for as long as possible.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:47 pm
by Proposition Joe
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:23 pm
He has been antisemitic
You were picked up on this lie the other day, why have you repeated it?
What could have been worse under Corbyn? Please feel free to add some workings when you present your answer
Well he has historically sided with Terrorist groups ( most MPs classed the groups he supported as terrorists , except for a select few, His fellow left wing colleagues.
He spent over thirty years on the back benches voting against almost everything his party and the conservatives introduce. Showed no interest in a cabinet or leadership candidacy.
He was a staunch anti EU politician, then as leader sat on the fence.
His cabinet appointed were highly inexperienced .
He has been antisemitic , whip withdrawn.
None of his re nationalisation ideas added up.
His general stance on Nuclear Deterrence , the armed forces, NATO and Defence would have left us extremely vulnerable.
Don’t get me wrong the Tories have been very bad in many examples but like the result of the election proved, when push came to shove, the average votor saw Corbyn as a disaster and despite doing well , he did not win.
Have you ever met Dohnut who used to frequent these parts? You are very similar…. Were you ever a president in business?
In response.
1. Your claim on anti semitism is entirely incorrect. He had the whip withdrawn for his response to the EHRC report into anti-semitism.
2. Nationalisation things like utilities etc are quite popular with the electorate. Nationalising parts of the railway is already taking place.
3. Might come as a surprise but a socialist is likely to oppose conservative / neo liberal policies. Feel free to let me know which things he voted against that turned out badly for him,
4. Corbyn / Labour we’re committed to NATO membership and the nuclear deterrent during his leadership.
Still be interested to know how you think he’d have made things worse than they are already? Seeing as the country and the economy is an utter f*cking skip fire.
Always amazed how 3 years on from his departure, supposed sensible moderates still seem obsessed by a 75 year old socialist and peace campaigner who proposed nothing more radical than funding public services and nationalising things we used to own.
Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:23 pm
He has been antisemitic
You were picked up on this lie the other day, why have you repeated it?
Put him on foe. Do NOT feed the IMBECILES.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:58 pm
by The Reverend
Admin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:21 pm
FAO Stowaway.
I’ve edited your post. The term used within is not acceptable.
First offence means you escape a banning. Please do not use that term again.
FTC
Good on you for amending the original comment but I thought you might want to know that there’s a post a few above this one where LCL quotes Stowaway and his incredibly offensive slur can still be seen. I’ve reported it so you can see which one it is.
Could I ask that you (or LCL) also amend that post because it’s quite shocking to see that phrase anywhere on this board.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:11 pm
by spen666
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:15 pm
I was thinking Loin Cloth Spenny
That is both untrue and defamatory
I would invite you to remove the false claim without the need for me to invoke the legal process
It's embarrassing how you won't just acknowledge you're still wrong and instead respond with some meaningless word salad.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:14 pm
by Proposition Joe
Also, how have you managed to break the Quote function? It's not possible to reply properly to your posts.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:16 pm
by Dunners
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:14 pm
Also, how have you managed to break the Quote function? It's not possible to reply properly to your posts.
It's to spare the rest of us from those of you who have not yet foed the gobsh*te.
It's embarrassing how you won't just acknowledge you're still wrong and instead respond with some meaningless word salad.
Yes I was wrong as I said , I accept the version in the BBC news article I posted which I think is your take on it.
Re: Israel
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:42 pm
by Long slender neck
Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:01 pm
Re: the Israeli airstrike story. This is a usually reliable account, sometimes relied upon by BBC Verify, potentially debunking the story. But yet many people will already have consumed the false narrative that Israel bombed fleeing civilians.
Is the above link about a totally different explosion?
Re: Israel
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:14 am
by Daily Express bot
David Lammy has gone up in my estimations of him. He was on various media outlets recently and is saying Israel has the right to defend itself and Hamas are not the ordinary Palestinian people but are terrorists.
Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:01 pm
Re: the Israeli airstrike story. This is a usually reliable account, sometimes relied upon by BBC Verify, potentially debunking the story. But yet many people will already have consumed the false narrative that Israel bombed fleeing civilians.
