Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:26 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:38 pm Also, so what if all RMT members were earning at or above median salary? If we wish to live in a free market economy then surely that must mean it's okay for workers utilise market forces to get the best possible return for their labour. Right?

Correct. Long live the levelling up effect of the invisible hand of the free market

Ah good. See, this capitalism lark isn't all bad after all.

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:27 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:26 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:38 pm Also, so what if all RMT members were earning at or above median salary? If we wish to live in a free market economy then surely that must mean it's okay for workers utilise market forces to get the best possible return for their labour. Right?

Correct. Long live the levelling up effect of the invisible hand of the free market

Ah good. See, this capitalism lark isn't all bad after all.

I've been thinking about this levelling up thing a bit more. Why if the free market is going to level up the left behind does Johnson go on about getting on with implementing policies to deliver it ? Is he some sort of big dog state socialist?

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:32 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:27 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:26 pm

Correct. Long live the levelling up effect of the invisible hand of the free market

Ah good. See, this capitalism lark isn't all bad after all.

I've been thinking about this levelling up thing a bit more. Why if the free market is going to level up the left behind does Johnson go on about getting on with implementing policies to deliver it ? Is he some sort of big dog state socialist?

NO , hes a build something shiny type , which neither fixes or levels anything up .

This is really something. I almost admire the effort.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:21 am This is really something. I almost admire the effort.

Sensational.

Moan at Labour MPs for supporting striking workers. Also moan at the PM for not supporting the striking workers. All in the one headline. This is genius.

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:28 pm

George M wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:00 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:47 pm

Prove they get more than they deserve

Average pay for a driver £54k a year. Probably more than enough I would say. Plenty on here wouldn’t mind that job

You are of course free to apply for such a cushty, overpaid job.

Yeah, but I doubt very much you would get anywhere. I mean, when did you last see an advertisement for one of these cushy, overpaid jobs ?

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:54 am

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:28 pm

George M wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:00 pm

Average pay for a driver £54k a year. Probably more than enough I would say. Plenty on here wouldn’t mind that job

You are of course free to apply for such a cushty, overpaid job.

Yeah, but I doubt very much you would get anywhere. I mean, when did you last see an advertisement for one of these cushy, overpaid jobs ?

Quite regularly. I can let you know more if genuinely interested.

No, i don't want to put you to any inconvenience, just tell me the paper or web site the ad appears in.

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:54 am

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:28 pm ...

You are of course free to apply for such a cushty, overpaid job.

Yeah, but I doubt very much you would get anywhere. I mean, when did you last see an advertisement for one of these cushy, overpaid jobs ?

I don't think they advertise MPs jobs

The strikers are labelled 'Friends of Putin' by Tory MP.

How do they say this stuff with a straight face?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/d ... 99987776cc

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:56 pm The strikers are labelled 'Friends of Putin' by Tory MP.

How do they say this stuff with a straight face?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/d ... 99987776cc

Labour on the side of Unionists... ooh you bad.
Tories bankrolled by Putin's posse... ignore.

Unionists.. dont be friends of Putin.

Err...???

Well done RMT, fighting for your members and all our safety on the rail network

Mick Lynch is bloody brilliant, isnt he?

Murdoch and the other shitdiggers are going to be all over him from here on in, the poor sod.

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:39 pm Mick Lynch is bloody brilliant, isnt he?

Murdoch and the other shitdiggers are going to be all over him from here on in, the poor sod.

Mate he's not even a Marxist. What the hell does he even know about the class struggle?

He's no Bob Crowe !

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:39 pm Mick Lynch is bloody brilliant, isnt he?

Murdoch and the other shitdiggers are going to be all over him from here on in, the poor sod.

He has a rare oratory skill. He communicates effectively with concise messaging to as wide an audience as possible. I'm sure he and his members won't thank me for saying this, but he reminds me of Farage when he was at his most effective. Obviously they're polar opposites on many other things.

You're right that large swathes of the media and political establishment will now commence an extreme campaign against him. But people with his skills can be effective at countering that. TV producers just can't help but love a communicative disruptor.

The Union movement and the real left needed a figurehead to emerge. He sure has picked his moment.

Or they’ll dig, not find anything on him, then just stop giving him air time.

Thankfully the RMT have another hero in Eddie Dempsey they can wheel until he gets banned as well.

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:42 pm Or they’ll dig, not find anything on him, then just stop giving him air time.

Thankfully the RMT have another hero in Eddie Dempsey they can wheel until he gets banned as well.

Dempsey is everything but a hero.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:58 pm

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:42 pm Or they’ll dig, not find anything on him, then just stop giving him air time.

Thankfully the RMT have another hero in Eddie Dempsey they can wheel until he gets banned as well.

Dempsey is everything but a hero.

How so? Is there something about him we should know?