We really need to know who's responsible for the January signings

[tuffers#1]

If you cannot take reasoned scrutiny into your views
then maybe you shouldn’t be on here .
I’m sure you know this to !

This statement is truly hilarious coming from you...

I cant take credit as that is a
Apple wumbles quote about Ling further up the page
Which i edited slightly .
Good for you though .

[tuffers#1]

I’ve had some thought and I agree I don’t think I should be on here, being a half wit and all who could be responsible for someone’s suicide. That’s too much responsibility. Go easy, chaps.

Or we could just scrutinise Ling once a month perhaps

Not 5 threads a week relating to him over the last 4 years by the Haters .

Happy Medium Wums

[tuffers#1]

The only way for our club to go forward and get promotion is for Ritchie to choose who stays and who goes at the end of the season and equally as important chooses which players he wants to bring in without any interference from the so called Transfer Committee.

What happens if RW fails to get 1st choice picks because we only have a top 8 budget .

Is that the Fault of the Transfer Commitee ?

[Dohnut]

I have always maintained that Ling deserves huge credit for us getting out of the NL. His players, His Manager and therefore much of our success was down to him. Mistakes? So what, some will happen. But the outcome speaks for itself.

Ling in a recent interview also took credit for the net income he managed from our dealing in the transfer market.

His list of potential players, his role on the committee, his involvement with Nuge at Millwall bringing in Moss. Look at the role of a DoF in general. Milanaise here, Slade comments at Charlton and more besides. The examples go on. There can be absolutely no doubt Ling influences who comes and who goes.

Slade at Charlton commented, he gets presented with a list of players. But the final choice was his. His choice, his decision. But from those put forward for his selection. That is very different from him running the show.

KJ will define the areas he needs looking at, A list will be there, Ling has said the top 2 we won’t get for whatever reason. KJ chooses from the rest.

He decides the areas for improvement and he chooses the players he wants, from the list available.

That process can be presented truthfully in different ways.

[tuffers#1]

With A Top 2 Budget 1st & 2nd choicers come here rather than pick somewhere else .

[Story of O]

So what is a top 2 budget? In monetary terms.

[gshaw]

Ling in a recent interview also took credit for the net income he managed from our dealing in the transfer market.

That quote really was the selective PR / management speak in full throttle. Ling saying how much money he's made, conveniently ignoring the running costs of the academy that NT and KT have admitted means it hasn't reached break even, let alone profitability.

[Story of O]

We are the 4th biggest spenders when it comes to agents fees

[tuffers#1]

So what is a top 2 budget? In monetary terms.

we havent had one under this regime .

[Story of O]

So you don't know

[O Superman]

Yep, all of this.

The fact Wellens has come in as Head Coach rather than Manager, as KJ was, kind of worries me that he won't be given full control and it'll still be The Committee ie Ling making calls on what players we bring in.

Hang on, I'm a bit confused now.
So, Kenny was a 'Manager' and therefore had full control over who he brought in - which means that it was ACTUALLY done by the transfer committee - which is really Ling on his own.

Wellens is only a Head Coach and therefore does not have full control over who is brought in - which means that it is ACTUALLY done by the transfer committee - which is really Ling on his own.

Did I get it right ?

No, you didn’t.

- KJ had the title ‘manager’ but it has been well documented he only suggested the areas he wanted strengthening, The Committee then identified and Ling sourced those players.

- People have said they hope RW has full control over the recruit ent process.

- I said that’s unlikely given the down grading in title - if even a ‘manager’ has to accept the players given to him, a ‘head coach’ definitely will.

Thanks for the clarification, I wasn't being entirely serious, though

[RedDwarf 1881]

The only way for our club to go forward and get promotion is for Ritchie to choose who stays and who goes at the end of the season and equally as important chooses which players he wants to bring in without any interference from the so called Transfer Committee.

What happens if RW fails to get 1st choice picks because we only have a top 8 budget .

Is that the Fault of the Transfer Commitee ?

Our transfer committee consists of board members so I suppose the answer must be Yes .

[tuffers#1]

So you don't know

Read the Explanation in the relevant thread .

[RedDwarf 1881]

Matt Porter said on Phoenix FM that it was Kenny's choice who we signed in January . He only got one signing right in January out of six .( Khan ) Did Jackett also sign Coleman considering Ling was looking at him before we hired Jackett ?

[tuffers#1]

Matt Porter said on Phoenix FM that it was Kenny's choice who we signed in January . He only got one signing right in January out of six .( Khan ) Did Jackett also sign Coleman considering Ling was looking at him before we hired Jackett ?

Another Ling Hate comment .
No mention of other committee members

[Long slender neck]

It took just one loss for the usual negative subjects to remerge. Sad.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Matt Porter said on Phoenix FM that it was Kenny's choice who we signed in January . He only got one signing right in January out of six .( Khan ) Did Jackett also sign Coleman considering Ling was looking at him before we hired Jackett ?

Another Ling Hate comment .
No mention of other committee members

Not a Ling hate comment just quoting Ling himself . He said in an interview he was looking at Coleman long before Kenny came to the club. Therefore my question is who actually signed Coleman. ? Surely all signings must be the managers choice otherwise what's the point . I believe the other committee members are Matt , Nigel and Kent

[Long slender neck]

You want the manager to have scouted all signings then?

[tuffers#1]

Matt Porter said on Phoenix FM that it was Kenny's choice who we signed in January . He only got one signing right in January out of six .( Khan ) Did Jackett also sign Coleman considering Ling was looking at him before we hired Jackett ?

Another Ling Hate comment .
No mention of other committee members

Not a Ling hate comment just quoting Ling himself . He said in an interview he was looking at Coleman long before Kenny came to the club. Therefore my question is who actually signed Coleman. ? Surely all signings must be the managers choice otherwise what's the point .

Because data showed a possible superstar in the making It was as Nigel said a "PUNT " on a kid that cost 80k who could turn into major profit .

If it doesnt it cost 80k

[Long slender neck]

Its early days for Coleman. Judge him next season.

[gshaw]

Its early days for Coleman. Judge him next season.

But therein lies the problem. All very well taking a punt if you've got other first team players in that position and he's the wildcard. Problem is we have 4 wildcards but not enough proven quality, whoever decided that blend was right needs a performance review.

[Dohnut]

Its early days for Coleman. Judge him next season.

A common sense view to a degree. He may turn out to be a great player who provides a massive payback on and off the field. Hope so. Would be delighted.

I don’t see that as the issue. The issue for me is that his contribution this season has been not great, yet he came in at a time when we still talked of play offs. We needed good players in January, not next season. He is not that. He was not what we needed to bolster a very weak area in our squad. Still a very weak area in our squad, has been for soooooo long it’s embarrassing.

Had he been brought in alongside an experienced player in midfield I would get the investment aspect, give him a few minutes as support for others. but he came in alongside another inexperienced player in Brown. A weak area remained weak, our problems persisted and Playoff hopes crashed. Not all him. But he didn’t help much. You don’t need to be an expert to see where our problems have been for so long. Same under Ross, same under KJ.

I hope he comes good. His contribution to this season has been not much. Out of his depth. At times just a waste of a shirt.

[RedDwarf 1881]

IMO, when everybody is fit Coleman is currently fourth choice in central midfield. Next season probably even fifth. I’ve watched Coleman play and he’s no different from Kyprianou except Hector is a bit better. OK, Coleman has time on his side to improve but when we get another experienced central midfielder in the Summer I reckon Coleman is going to be well down the pecking order.

[essexfootball]

I think Coleman is good defensively, he intercepts, tackles and reads the game well, I'm not convinced he is a midfielder, didn't long saying he was playing in a back three before he joined

[MassiveForehead]

Matt Porter said on Phoenix FM that it was Kenny's choice who we signed in January . He only got one signing right in January out of six .( Khan ) Did Jackett also sign Coleman considering Ling was looking at him before we hired Jackett ?

Also claimed that Ling signed all the players in 2017, all the players that got us promoted in the National League and all the players when Ross the Boss was given the job in January (apart from Cisse).

One would think with that huge success, he'd be DOF for Man City as they've had a few misses recently.