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Red_Army wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:12 pm

Redcard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:09 pm
As for tuffers assertion that today’s invented Palestinians were the original inhabitants is nonsense , Jews have lived there for close to 4000 years and in the days when Britain ruled Palestine more Arabs emigrated to Palestine than Jews.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:09 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:05 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:43 pm

I understand fully what you are saying.

I dont think you have got to where i am at.
Israel uses anti-semetism to hide much

"Israel uses anti-semetism to hide much ."

I mean that's a pretty shameful and disgusting thing to post isn't it

Israel's status as a representative democracy has also been questioned because Israeli residents of the occupied territories are allowed to vote in Israel's elections while Palestinian residents are not. Another source of criticism is the friction generated by the conversion issue between Israel's Orthodox rabbinate and non-Orthodox segments of the Jewish diaspora. At one end of the spectrum are attempts to delegitimize Israel's right to exist. This has led to an ongoing debate regarding at what point criticism of Israel crosses the line to antisemitism. One of the effects of international criticism has been the impact on social psychology of the Israeli Jewish public - according to a survey more than half of Israelis believe "the whole world is against us", and three quarters of Israelis believe "that no matter what Israel does or how far it goes towards resolving the conflict with the Palestinians, the world will continue to criticize Israel".

Criticisms of Israeli policies come from several groups: primarily from activists, within Israel and worldwide, the United Nations and other non-governmental organizations including European churches, and mass media. Media bias is often claimed by both sides of the debate. Since 2003, the UN has issued 232 resolutions with respect to Israel, 40% of all resolutions issued by the UN over the period and more than six times that of the second placed country, Sudan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critici ... prov=sfla1
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Is it ?
It happens within Israel by Jews .

Read the wiki article again & you see why i say whay i said, specifically these 2 quotes from wiki

" This has led to an ongoing debate regarding at what point criticism of Israel crosses the line to antisemitism".

" Criticisms of Israeli policies come from several groups: primarily from activists, within Israel and worldwide, the United Nations and other non-governmental organizations including European churches, and mass media. Media bias is often claimed by both sides of the debate. Since 2003, the UN has issued 232 resolutions with respect to Israel, 40% of all resolutions issued by the UN over the period and more than six times that of the second placed country, Sudan".

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:50 pm

slacker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:26 pm That’s well ott, COYOs. And historically wrong.

It is not historically wrong, not is it ott.
This is factual.
Do you think the Palestinians just walked out of their land,so Israel could exist?.

StockholmO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:25 am Like a moth to a naked flame the suspected anti-semites are all over this car crash of a thread.

What sad times we live in, just why can't we all get along with each other.

Love and Peace and only two weeks from Hannukah.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:08 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:09 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:05 pm

"Israel uses anti-semetism to hide much ."

I mean that's a pretty shameful and disgusting thing to post isn't it

Israel's status as a representative democracy has also been questioned because Israeli residents of the occupied territories are allowed to vote in Israel's elections while Palestinian residents are not. Another source of criticism is the friction generated by the conversion issue between Israel's Orthodox rabbinate and non-Orthodox segments of the Jewish diaspora. At one end of the spectrum are attempts to delegitimize Israel's right to exist. This has led to an ongoing debate regarding at what point criticism of Israel crosses the line to antisemitism. One of the effects of international criticism has been the impact on social psychology of the Israeli Jewish public - according to a survey more than half of Israelis believe "the whole world is against us", and three quarters of Israelis believe "that no matter what Israel does or how far it goes towards resolving the conflict with the Palestinians, the world will continue to criticize Israel".

Criticisms of Israeli policies come from several groups: primarily from activists, within Israel and worldwide, the United Nations and other non-governmental organizations including European churches, and mass media. Media bias is often claimed by both sides of the debate. Since 2003, the UN has issued 232 resolutions with respect to Israel, 40% of all resolutions issued by the UN over the period and more than six times that of the second placed country, Sudan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critici ... prov=sfla1
============================================

Is it ?
It happens within Israel by Jews .

Read the wiki article again & you see why i say whay i said, specifically these 2 quotes from wiki

" This has led to an ongoing debate regarding at what point criticism of Israel crosses the line to antisemitism".

" Criticisms of Israeli policies come from several groups: primarily from activists, within Israel and worldwide, the United Nations and other non-governmental organizations including European churches, and mass media. Media bias is often claimed by both sides of the debate. Since 2003, the UN has issued 232 resolutions with respect to Israel, 40% of all resolutions issued by the UN over the period and more than six times that of the second placed country, Sudan".

See

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:53 am

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:12 pm

Redcard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:09 pm
As for tuffers assertion that today’s invented Palestinians were the original inhabitants is nonsense , Jews have lived there for close to 4000 years and in the days when Britain ruled Palestine more Arabs emigrated to Palestine than Jews.

I certainly have not asserted anything about palestinians were the original inhabitants . Now you and your buddy are making sh*t up .

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:04 am If Corbyn steps down, all this so called anti semitism will be heard of no more.
Stupid people just can't seem to work out it's right wingers attacking a left wing leader who stands for the Palestinians.
Anti semitism is the stick they're using to beat him

DuvB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:32 am

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:04 am If Corbyn steps down, all this so called anti semitism will be heard of no more.
Stupid people just can't seem to work out it's right wingers attacking a left wing leader who stands for the Palestinians.
Anti semitism is the stick they're using to beat him

The EHRC will soon deem the Labour Party as institutionally racist. Then you anti-semitic lefties can all shut up.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:02 am Watch this video and listen to the people say “you have to save us” another says “or we will leave the country”

It’s heartbreaking that people are saying and thinking this, but the reality is Corbyn is an anti Semite and a racist

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:50 am

DuvB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:32 am

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:04 am If Corbyn steps down, all this so called anti semitism will be heard of no more.
Stupid people just can't seem to work out it's right wingers attacking a left wing leader who stands for the Palestinians.
Anti semitism is the stick they're using to beat him

The EHRC will soon deem the Labour Party as institutionally racist. Then you anti-semitic lefties can all shut up.

You got inside info then, or are you psychic?
You right wing nutters are so stupid as to realise this is a set up from day one

DuvB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:28 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:50 am

DuvB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:32 am

The EHRC will soon deem the Labour Party as institutionally racist. Then you anti-semitic lefties can all shut up.

You got inside info then, or are you psychic?
You right wing nutters are so stupid as to realise this is a set up from day one

Yes I do have inside info and you are in denial.