Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:31 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:26 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:16 pm

Being Orient through and through doesn’t make you competent in your job - I don’t need to blaspheme to say that either.

‘Backing the process’ is just useless happy clappy speak for not challenging mistakes.

In the opinion of many, he hasn’t done a decent job so far, expletively described as such or not.

Pointing out obvious incompetence does not equate to slagging someone off. You do love hyperbole don’t you.

I am Orient through and through - are you? Your Stockholm Syndrome mentality would not indicate as such.

Well said.
Never got this love in with Ling, a bloke who was sacked by the club for a year of rubbish results which would have ended in relegation if Barry hadn’t pulled the trigger.
I’ve got a strong feeling that this appointment is going to be a cheap option, someone like Hendon, Nugent or Burnett.

My source has said Darren Currie had the job if he wanted it, but the appointment was supposed to be by tomorrow. With every delay, I think Currie will turn it down and we will end up with someone like you mentioned.

One thing is for sure - it will be someone from Ling’s address book which shows a complete narrow-minded level of thinking.

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:35 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:31 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:26 pm

Well said.
Never got this love in with Ling, a bloke who was sacked by the club for a year of rubbish results which would have ended in relegation if Barry hadn’t pulled the trigger.
I’ve got a strong feeling that this appointment is going to be a cheap option, someone like Hendon, Nugent or Burnett.

My source has said Darren Currie had the job if he wanted it, but the appointment was supposed to be by tomorrow. With every delay, I think Currie will turn it down and we will end up with someone like you mentioned.

One thing is for sure - it will be someone from Ling’s address book which shows a complete narrow-minded level of thinking.

Blimey, how crap is the offer when we can’t tempt him from Barnet?
Major cheap option on the way.

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:43 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:35 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:31 pm

My source has said Darren Currie had the job if he wanted it, but the appointment was supposed to be by tomorrow. With every delay, I think Currie will turn it down and we will end up with someone like you mentioned.

One thing is for sure - it will be someone from Ling’s address book which shows a complete narrow-minded level of thinking.

Blimey, how crap is the offer when we can’t tempt him from Barnet?
Major cheap option on the way.

If this is true, what on earth are the owners thinking.
Darren Currie is not a proven experienced Manager at this level.
If he was offered the job and turned it down, A : the owners have no ambition B: The money being offered must have been p*ss poor.
The supporters deserve better !!

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:43 pm Why all this talk of cheap options. Running down the club owners who have invested a decent chunk of money, without which we may be a Phoenix club in tier 25;playing over the Marshes.

Don’t confuse going cheap and wanting value for money and sound financial management. We have a serious Board, a club on the up just going through a dark time.

For fucks sake give them a break.

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:49 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:43 pm Why all this talk of cheap options. Running down the club owners who have invested a decent chunk of money, without which we may be a Phoenix club in tier 25;playing over the Marshes.

Don’t confuse going cheap and wanting value for money and sound financial management. We have a serious Board, a club on the up just going through a dark time.

For fucks sake give them a break.

You wait until this appointment is made.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:09 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:49 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:43 pm Why all this talk of cheap options. Running down the club owners who have invested a decent chunk of money, without which we may be a Phoenix club in tier 25;playing over the Marshes.

Don’t confuse going cheap and wanting value for money and sound financial management. We have a serious Board, a club on the up just going through a dark time.

For fucks sake give them a break.

You wait until this appointment is made.

Which is exactly what I’m doing, the appointment and the results of that appointment.

I’m not slow in voicing an opinion, was never in favour of Ross being put in the position he was. But the club have the chance to address that. Let’s see how it works out. Whoever they appoint I’m bloody sure saving a few quid won’t have been the deciding factor.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:35 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:16 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:22 pm

Being Orient through and through doesn’t make you competent in your job - I don’t need to blaspheme to say that either.

Being orient through & through doesnt make your opinion competent

‘Backing the process’ is just useless happy clappy speak for not challenging mistakes.

Most people arent backing a process , they are regailing against blithering idiots

In the opinion of many, he hasn’t done a decent job so far, expletively described as such or not.

Appointed & a manager in 6 weeks to get a team ready for the 1st game of a season.
3 months in realised manager wasnt working, bought in the next man who steadied the ship
then cracked on with promotion. Handled the death of that man with class & dignity

Pointing out obvious incompetence does not equate to slagging someone off. You do love hyperbole don’t you.

Pointing out your own inadequacies more than anyone elses

I am Orient through and through - are you? Your Stockholm Syndrome mentality would not indicate as such.


This is football & fans have freedom of choice
We are not hostages of any sort.

Just a few adjustments .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:15 pm Shouldnt be what Des ?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:19 pm Only 1 person claiming anyone are being held as hostages Des & that is you .

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:22 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:19 pm Only 1 person claiming anyone are being held as hostages Des & that is you .

Eh?

What are you on about?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:43 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:22 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:19 pm Only 1 person claiming anyone are being held as hostages Des & that is you .

Eh?

What are you on about?

You started it with your stockholm syndrome .
What that has got to do with anything in E10 shows the calibre of "FAN" you really are

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:16 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:22 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:32 pm

Exactly. Too many times Ling’s decisions have been flawed. Cannot fathom why he is treated like the messiah by some. Truly baffling.

Don't agree with you concerning ML.

1) who brought in the players that won us the league inside of 2 years
2) he appointed 2 managers 1 of which did not work, the other won us the league title and took us to a cup final
3) he has ultimate responsibility for all football matters and we have players coming through from the youth ready for first team football
4) he has set up the scout network and probably be aided by making Steve Foster the head off and built from there
5) he has sorted out the coaching staff cos let's face not much was left after bullshitti
6) he has done everything asked of him by the owners as evidenced by their praise of him frequently

There's more that could be added.

He in all probability has not got everything right, but he has hit the target more often than not. The man is Orient through and through yet many and you are one of the worst continually slag him off. Give it a rest for christs sake.

I'm pleased he is in the club and the role that he is doing. Can it improve? I'm sure it can, will it improve, I believe it will. Lets back the process, it worked with Justin, and I'm sure it was tweaked after the Davis failure so there is a lesson of improvement.

More importantly let's back a man who has done a bloody decent job so far.

Over to you now Martin, get this appointment right or Dis will be all over this post like a bad rash!!

Being Orient through and through doesn’t make you competent in your job - I don’t need to blaspheme to say that either.

‘Backing the process’ is just useless happy clappy speak for not challenging mistakes.

In the opinion of many, he hasn’t done a decent job so far, expletively described as such or not.

Pointing out obvious incompetence does not equate to slagging someone off. You do love hyperbole don’t you.

I am Orient through and through - are you? Your Stockholm Syndrome mentality would not indicate as such.

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:49 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:16 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:22 pm

Don't agree with you concerning ML.

1) who brought in the players that won us the league inside of 2 years
2) he appointed 2 managers 1 of which did not work, the other won us the league title and took us to a cup final
3) he has ultimate responsibility for all football matters and we have players coming through from the youth ready for first team football
4) he has set up the scout network and probably be aided by making Steve Foster the head off and built from there
5) he has sorted out the coaching staff cos let's face not much was left after bullshitti
6) he has done everything asked of him by the owners as evidenced by their praise of him frequently

There's more that could be added.

He in all probability has not got everything right, but he has hit the target more often than not. The man is Orient through and through yet many and you are one of the worst continually slag him off. Give it a rest for christs sake.

I'm pleased he is in the club and the role that he is doing. Can it improve? I'm sure it can, will it improve, I believe it will. Lets back the process, it worked with Justin, and I'm sure it was tweaked after the Davis failure so there is a lesson of improvement.

More importantly let's back a man who has done a bloody decent job so far.

Over to you now Martin, get this appointment right or Dis will be all over this post like a bad rash!!

Being Orient through and through doesn’t make you competent in your job - I don’t need to blaspheme to say that either.

‘Backing the process’ is just useless happy clappy speak for not challenging mistakes.

In the opinion of many, he hasn’t done a decent job so far, expletively described as such or not.

Pointing out obvious incompetence does not equate to slagging someone off. You do love hyperbole don’t you.

I am Orient through and through - are you? Your Stockholm Syndrome mentality would not indicate as such.

Yet you fail to lay out a counter argument, I guess that’s cos you don’t have one and deal down you know your wrong, but are to obtuse to admit it.

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:55 am Of course I do and funny enough I respect yours! However, I’ve laid out what I think ML has done right and is doing right, to say he’s poor or rubbish without any kind of support to your words is poor. So why don’t you lay out all the things he’s so bad at so we can see if your comment is fair or not.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:42 pm Not dithering. This is a major decision and he needs to get it right. In the meantime Ross has delivered 4 points from 6 so is holding the fort quite well for now.

Won’t be announced until Kent arrives and gets involved. Fair to me.

We will all be put out of our misery very soon. I just hope it’s not out of the frying pan etc and we get a decent, experienced guy. No more Head Coaches still wearing ‘L’ plates, not right now. Ling ain’t that stupid.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:53 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:40 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:55 pm

A shortlist is only a small part of the process flow. Nor has it been over two weeks since Embleton stood down as you claim in your opening post.

No? It was announced on the 23rd Sep. It’s now the 10th October. So, over 2 weeks.

I dare say Ling knew it was a real probability before the announcement too. But still not dithering, just doing due diligence before making a decision. I’m sure he will get it right and it will be worth the wait.