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Great goal. Harrold has really livened us up.

Get in. At least we have more off the ball and got a few corners.

Salford getting some spanking at home today, 4 down.

Again soon as the 5 at the back is dropped the goals start coming. Not difficult is it Ross?

Simply the players are not good enough. JE got more out of them than any normal manager. Don't blame RE. I think JE would have struggled with this set of players in this division but perhaps not quite as badly.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:22 pm Again soon as the 5 at the back is dropped the goals start coming. Not difficult is it Ross?

Same old pattern week after week, Orient not coming alive till behind and forced to bring on extra attack minded players, some people never learn do they !! Meanwhile elsewhere, Bonne scores in his full league debut to put Charlton 1-0 up in their home game against Leeds United.

Very lucky boy Wilkinson, went down seeking a penalty then pushed the Vale player in the ensuing handbags. Another ref could easily give a red for that.

It was a penalty, the guy was pulling his shirt. Players 'dive' in those situations because unless they go to ground, they are never given.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:26 pm Very lucky boy Wilkinson, went down seeking a penalty then pushed the Vale player in the ensuing handbags. Another ref could easily give a red for that.

Wilkinson needs to calm down a bit, count 10 and walk away is an old but good practice to learn.

Simple Man wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:25 pm Simply the players are not good enough. JE got more out of them than any normal manager. Don't blame RE. I think JE would have struggled with this set of players in this division but perhaps not quite as badly.

I solely blame Ross. He picks this pointless formation and his negative approach feeds through to the players. Clueless as a manager.

If anything he's lucky the players dig out a performance once freed from the shackles to get games back in the second half.

Hopefully we can go on and win it, would be a great result considering the first half. I am sure Vale might not consider a draw to be too bad.

JMD on for Dennis

eagwgw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:31 pm Hopefully we can go on and win it, would be a great result considering the first half. I am sure Vale might not consider a draw to be too bad.

Just hope we do not do the usual as of late and concede a goal in the dying minutes !

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:28 pm

Simple Man wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:25 pm Simply the players are not good enough. JE got more out of them than any normal manager. Don't blame RE. I think JE would have struggled with this set of players in this division but perhaps not quite as badly.

I solely blame Ross. He picks this pointless formation and his negative approach feeds through to the players. Clueless as a manager.

If anything he's lucky the players dig out a performance once freed from the shackles to get games back in the second half.

A pointless formation that JE started to pick last year and you didn't complain then. The step up is just to great for the majority of players.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:28 pm

Simple Man wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:25 pm Simply the players are not good enough. JE got more out of them than any normal manager. Don't blame RE. I think JE would have struggled with this set of players in this division but perhaps not quite as badly.

I solely blame Ross. He picks this pointless formation and his negative approach feeds through to the players. Clueless as a manager.

If anything he's lucky the players dig out a performance once freed from the shackles to get games back in the second half.

''I solely blame Ross. He picks this pointless formation and his negative approach feeds through to the players. Clueless as a manager.''
Completely correct

Simple Man wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:34 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:28 pm

Simple Man wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:25 pm Simply the players are not good enough. JE got more out of them than any normal manager. Don't blame RE. I think JE would have struggled with this set of players in this division but perhaps not quite as badly.

I solely blame Ross. He picks this pointless formation and his negative approach feeds through to the players. Clueless as a manager.

If anything he's lucky the players dig out a performance once freed from the shackles to get games back in the second half.

A pointless formation that JE started to pick last year and you didn't complain then. The step up is just to great for the majority of players.

Yeah but most of us realised that 3 weeks ago, JE didn't/doesn't

Simple Man wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:34 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:28 pm

Simple Man wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:25 pm Simply the players are not good enough. JE got more out of them than any normal manager. Don't blame RE. I think JE would have struggled with this set of players in this division but perhaps not quite as badly.

I solely blame Ross. He picks this pointless formation and his negative approach feeds through to the players. Clueless as a manager.

If anything he's lucky the players dig out a performance once freed from the shackles to get games back in the second half.

A pointless formation that JE started to pick last year and you didn't complain then. The step up is just to great for the majority of players.

How.many.more.times

JE used it to see us over the line, to protect what we had due to injuries and no other options with a decimated CM.

It is *not* the formation you use to go out and win games. Especially when you can't organise a defence for toffee.

You don't put 8 at the back when you go 1-0 up at home. Second half performance when we've gone out and attacked shows that in a nutshell.

Harrold MOTM for his contribution, again should've been utilised weeks ago.

LeytonOstone wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:39 pm

Simple Man wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:34 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:28 pm

I solely blame Ross. He picks this pointless formation and his negative approach feeds through to the players. Clueless as a manager.

If anything he's lucky the players dig out a performance once freed from the shackles to get games back in the second half.

A pointless formation that JE started to pick last year and you didn't complain then. The step up is just to great for the majority of players.

Yeah but most of us realised that 3 weeks ago, JE didn't/doesn't

I think you meant to write............''Yeah but most of us realised that 3 weeks ago, ''RE'' didn't/doesn't

Is this where i8ubutler says.......?

Port Vale go one better than Wilkinson with an absolute peach curler into the top corner. Couldn't clear our lines.

Curse of the last 10 minutes strikes again

Ah... he didn't need to. :-(

Buck.

Oh FFS.
Another late goal.

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:44 pm

LeytonOstone wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:39 pm

Simple Man wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:34 pm

A pointless formation that JE started to pick last year and you didn't complain then. The step up is just to great for the majority of players.

Yeah but most of us realised that 3 weeks ago, JE didn't/doesn't

I think you meant to write............''Yeah but most of us realised that 3 weeks ago, ''RE'' didn't/doesn't

Indeed I did

Fitness / concentration again.

Truth be told we don't deserve anything from this. Can't play for 45 minutes and expect a result.

Sometimes you have to say fair enough. That was an absolute worldie.