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Re: Jack Simpson

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Proposition Joe wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:29 pm While that may be the case, we must assume you don't then.
Even if they did only offer him a 1 year deal, is it worth this bad PR for a player they don’t see as an Orient player in the long term?
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Re: Jack Simpson

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Monkey Boy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:03 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 11:36 am
Monkey Boy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 10:39 am

Ahh now your actually saying what you think i meant but didn’t have the guts to say it to me personally, fyi I don’t brush anything off, personally I don’t care if a player is black,white,blue or green as long as they play well for us, I’m just fed up with people talking about someone who’s signed for us and made his apologies more than once so let’s move on and look forward to the next season which will be a tough one.
That’s not what I meant. I’ve already said what I meant but I’ll say it one more time to save your eyes - saying “he’s signed now,
If you don’t like it then boycott supporting orient” is a ridiculous way to shut down a valid debate.
A debate that goes on and on and on. I’m not shutting down anything ,im suggesting . Like I said and I’ll say it one more time for you, if people disagree with this signing then have the courage of your conviction and don’t go or don’t go when he’s playing. I wonder how people who on here would not jump out of there seat or celebrate if he was to score. I have better things to do than argue with someone who isn’t forthright or backtracks on things that there implying like yourself.
Doesn’t seem like you have better things to do…

Again, missing the point unsurprisingly. Applying that logic to the FB era - if you don’t like it then shut up and don’t go. Surely we’ve learnt this isn’t the case. Some of us haven’t. You do have an air of Prez Biz so wouldn’t surprise me.

Closing down debate by stating “don’t like it don’t go” is a mental approach to take with anything in life when there’s room for healthy debate.
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Re: Jack Simpson

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How much bad PR do you think this is generating?
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Hoover Attack wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:29 pm How much bad PR do you think this is generating?
Enough to taint this club
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Anyone who wears the shirt is good enough for me 👍
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:29 pm How much bad PR do you think this is generating?
Enough to taint this club
Don’t seen this is tainting the club, being prepared to give someone a second chance who has shown remorse for what happened I see as enlightened, much preferable to a cancelled for life culture in my opinion.
The club hierarchy and fellow pros are happy with that from all I have read, I suspect most fans are happy with it too.
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Re: Jack Simpson

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Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:28 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:03 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 11:36 am

That’s not what I meant. I’ve already said what I meant but I’ll say it one more time to save your eyes - saying “he’s signed now,
If you don’t like it then boycott supporting orient” is a ridiculous way to shut down a valid debate.
A debate that goes on and on and on. I’m not shutting down anything ,im suggesting . Like I said and I’ll say it one more time for you, if people disagree with this signing then have the courage of your conviction and don’t go or don’t go when he’s playing. I wonder how people who on here would not jump out of there seat or celebrate if he was to score. I have better things to do than argue with someone who isn’t forthright or backtracks on things that there implying like yourself.
Doesn’t seem like you have better things to do…

Again, missing the point unsurprisingly. Applying that logic to the FB era - if you don’t like it then shut up and don’t go. Surely we’ve learnt this isn’t the case. Some of us haven’t. You do have an air of Prez Biz so wouldn’t surprise me.

Closing down debate by stating “don’t like it don’t go” is a mental approach to take with anything in life when there’s room for healthy debate.
Give it a rest pal
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Re: Jack Simpson

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Monkey Boy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:24 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:28 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:03 pm

A debate that goes on and on and on. I’m not shutting down anything ,im suggesting . Like I said and I’ll say it one more time for you, if people disagree with this signing then have the courage of your conviction and don’t go or don’t go when he’s playing. I wonder how people who on here would not jump out of there seat or celebrate if he was to score. I have better things to do than argue with someone who isn’t forthright or backtracks on things that there implying like yourself.
Doesn’t seem like you have better things to do…

Again, missing the point unsurprisingly. Applying that logic to the FB era - if you don’t like it then shut up and don’t go. Surely we’ve learnt this isn’t the case. Some of us haven’t. You do have an air of Prez Biz so wouldn’t surprise me.

Closing down debate by stating “don’t like it don’t go” is a mental approach to take with anything in life when there’s room for healthy debate.
Give it a rest pal
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:29 pm How much bad PR do you think this is generating?
Enough to taint this club
Rehabilitating someone on the path to redemption is bad pr? I think not
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cockhat wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:14 pm I’m sure everyone on this board has said something on the spur of the moment that they have regretted.
Are the board racist because he’s been given a chance to redeem himself?
The guy looks a decent player why not give him the benefit of the doubt.
Ah back to this again, are we?

Have I said things in the past that I regretted? Yes, absolutely.

Have I racially abused a junior colleague in front of their peers? Absolutely not.

The “we’ve all said silly things before” is an even worse form of the ridiculous “nobodies perfect” argument.

What is interesting to me is at what line certain people will draw when it comes to the “nobodies perfect” defence.

For example, would “nobodies perfect, we’ve all done stuff we regret” defence be employed by the same people if it were a player who had committed other offences? Or is it just offences of racism that you’re willing to overlook?
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Re: Jack Simpson

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Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:47 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:24 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:28 pm

Doesn’t seem like you have better things to do…

Again, missing the point unsurprisingly. Applying that logic to the FB era - if you don’t like it then shut up and don’t go. Surely we’ve learnt this isn’t the case. Some of us haven’t. You do have an air of Prez Biz so wouldn’t surprise me.

Closing down debate by stating “don’t like it don’t go” is a mental approach to take with anything in life when there’s room for healthy debate.
Give it a rest pal
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A healthy debate allows for people to put right the wrongs of a past mistake
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The Reverend wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:57 pm
cockhat wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:14 pm I’m sure everyone on this board has said something on the spur of the moment that they have regretted.
Are the board racist because he’s been given a chance to redeem himself?
The guy looks a decent player why not give him the benefit of the doubt.
Ah back to this again, are we?

Have I said things in the past that I regretted? Yes, absolutely.

Have I racially abused a junior colleague in front of their peers? Absolutely not.

The “we’ve all said silly things before” is an even worse form of the ridiculous “nobodies perfect” argument.

What is interesting to me is at what line certain people will draw when it comes to the “nobodies perfect” defence.

For example, would “nobodies perfect, we’ve all done stuff we regret” defence be employed by the same people if it were a player who had committed other offences? Or is it just offences of racism that you’re willing to overlook?
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Re: Jack Simpson

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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:29 pm How much bad PR do you think this is generating?
Enough to taint this club
I'm not madly in favour of us having signed him but there's no evidence this has actually happened, is there? The day we signed him a load of Cardiff fans went on Twitter saying he was a PoS but that's about it.
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Jack Simpson made an awful racist remark for which we was rightfully punished. Some think he should never play again, some think he deserves a second chance, but not with us. Others think that having apologised and made efforts with the local community, now is the time to look forwards rather than backwards. I think that summarises it, although I am sure that won't end it, as some just won't let it go.
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:29 pm How much bad PR do you think this is generating?
Enough to taint this club
Given the excesses of other players in the past then what he did was pretty mild by comparison. I don’t believe it’s “tainted” the club at all. It’s all in your mind mate. Just move on.
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Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:19 pm Jack Simpson made an awful racist remark for which we was rightfully punished. Some think he should never play again, some think he deserves a second chance, but not with us. Others think that having apologised and made efforts with the local community, now is the time to look forwards rather than backwards. I think that summarises it, although I am sure that won't end it, as some just won't let it go.
Nor should they have to if they feel that strongly about it.
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Hoover Attack wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:22 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:19 pm Jack Simpson made an awful racist remark for which we was rightfully punished. Some think he should never play again, some think he deserves a second chance, but not with us. Others think that having apologised and made efforts with the local community, now is the time to look forwards rather than backwards. I think that summarises it, although I am sure that won't end it, as some just won't let it go.
Nor should they have to if they feel that strongly about it.
Moaning about it won't get rid of him
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BoniO wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:21 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:29 pm How much bad PR do you think this is generating?
Enough to taint this club
Given the excesses of other players in the past then what he did was pretty mild by comparison. I don’t believe it’s “tainted” the club at all. It’s all in your mind mate. Just move on.
He can't :lol: , glad Jack is an O's player personally
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Re: Jack Simpson

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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:29 pm How much bad PR do you think this is generating?
Enough to taint this club
Only from you. Let it go , it’s boring. It’s not helping him and it’s not helping the club.
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Rubex Kube wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:56 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:29 pm How much bad PR do you think this is generating?
Enough to taint this club
Rehabilitating someone on the path to redemption is bad pr? I think not
Why is that Orient’s job? He’s clearly not needed by the club given little he played last season and the 1 year deal he has for next
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Re: Jack Simpson

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George M wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:32 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:29 pm How much bad PR do you think this is generating?
Enough to taint this club
Only from you. Let it go , it’s boring. It’s not helping him and it’s not helping the club.
Good, I have no interest helping either parties
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 4:03 pm
Rubex Kube wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:56 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Enough to taint this club
Rehabilitating someone on the path to redemption is bad pr? I think not
Why is that Orient’s job? He’s clearly not needed by the club given little he played last season and the 1 year deal he has for next
why do you care if you're not here to help Orient?
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Re: Jack Simpson

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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 4:04 pm
George M wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:32 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Enough to taint this club
Only from you. Let it go , it’s boring. It’s not helping him and it’s not helping the club.
Good, I have no interest helping either parties
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 4:04 pm
George M wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:32 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Enough to taint this club
Only from you. Let it go , it’s boring. It’s not helping him and it’s not helping the club.
Good, I have no interest helping either parties
Not sure why you contribute then. It’s a LOFC fans forum. You clearly are not one and if you are , probably not one the club cares about losing.
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