Independent Leyton Orient Forum

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:31 pm

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:00 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:15 pm


Maybe Nigel should take over some of the cafes in the high street and make a fan hub in there

Said in jest but actually not a bad idea.

I’d love to give all my match day money to Orient. But reality is I want a nice coffee, a decent pint or two and something either healthy or tasty and fresh and Orient offer none of that

Indeed, it could actually work. Orient need more hospitality space if they want to control the revenue stream but as they've admitted themselves the ground doesn't have the capacity, especially in the East Stand.

Something worth investigating with the council should any of the high street shops struggle to fill any of the units.

Somewhere comfortable to watch any early KO games, then Orient TV could start earlier and do a bit more content reviewing the week that was and so on as further background content.

Until they can sort a new ground thinking outside the box is the way forward. Shame we don't have control of the rest of the commercial space as the Pharmacy area would've been ideal for this.

StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:02 am
It's always been the case that football clubs rely upon supporters quietly ignoring the concept of "value for money".

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:18 pm I'm not about to start to criticise Nigel Travis he's pumped £millions into the club but I agree that food and drink offerings need looking at if they want to entice people in earlier before games. I'd be more inclined to criticise Mark Devlin who has not yet replaced our previous stadium sponsor who left at the end of the 2020/21 Season, it's one of the largest sponsorships for any club and he's even spent money on consultants and still no new sponsor. Not good enough. From what I can see his major achievement has been purchasing second hand perimeter boards.

Max Fowler wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:45 am Seeing as it appears it's open season on fans having a pop at other fans for not doing enough financially, can I ask where Nigel was in 1995?

If he'd bought the club back then for just £5, we'd still own the ground and wouldn't have all these poxy flats suffocating the stadium and preventing further expansion.

Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:00 am

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:18 pm I'm not about to start to criticise Nigel Travis he's pumped £millions into the club but I agree that food and drink offerings need looking at if they want to entice people in earlier before games. I'd be more inclined to criticise Mark Devlin who has not yet replaced our previous stadium sponsor who left at the end of the 2020/21 Season, it's one of the largest sponsorships for any club and he's even spent money on consultants and still no new sponsor. Not good enough. From what I can see his major achievement has been purchasing second hand perimeter boards.

Macklin sold off previous sponsorships at too low a level devalueling it. Of course he could get a sponsor but not any old one for buttons

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:41 pm Thought it was a great interview. Can’t criticise too many of the comments here either. Certainly a speedy way of seeking feedback.

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:07 am They day they serve Short Rib Bourguignon, washed down with a 2005 Clos des Papes en Châteauneuf-du-Pape, is the day I'll spend my hard earned money on the catering options at Brisbane Rd*. Until then you can stick your Orient Burger and Coke.



*Obviously, I'll require a receipt.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:21 am Bit odd to blame Devlin for something someone else has said.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:20 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:46 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:25 pm

Looking at the squad the only ones who aren't injured that you could take away and not have a major effect on selection might be

Sotiriou (given another attacking player coming in and Galbraith now available)
Sweeney / Hunt (pick one)
Byrne / Howes (pick one)

If you have to pick one to sell Sotiriou in last year of contract could net some cash for a L2 club looking for a promotion push perhaps. Sweeney too though be surprised if we sell someone who just got a new contract.

I would hardly class Ruel as a senior pro, he is fit and an ever present in the side and so far our top goal scorer and RW likes him, so little to no chance of that happening . By the way....you really have got a thing about Ruel haven't you !
Well hardly likely to be Pratley, Thompson is injured ( yet again ) so highly unlikely that he can be off loaded....a long shot...Beckles ?

Moncur, Hunt??

Max Fowler wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:22 pm

LittleMate wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:18 pm I think the west stand facilities for the standard seats are poor and I have no experience of the North or East stands -

They are both awful.

LittleMate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:58 am I think that we as fans run the risk of forgetting financial reality. There's a lot of difference between knowing the stakes go up when you get promoted to then actually getting the bills. I think our owners are adapting to that quite well. There's also a fan expectation that they have always paid a set rate and so why should they pay more. Well the quality of the product has gone up, the players cost more to attract and keep. It should not all be down to the owners. Its not a charity - owning a football club is more like holding a basket case - and its a wicker one that leaks badly! Whether we like it or not we are investors and the owners are trustees who pay that much more for the privilege. If we continue to co-operate on that basis then the club will continue to move forward. If we decide that we have reached our financial limits then we should expect the football on offer to reflect that. I'm happy to keep on investing at an increased rate as our trustees seem to be using our money more wisely than most other trustees at their clubs.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:38 am Never seen so many moaning Minnie’s in one place. Where have all the men gone!

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:57 pm You're the millionaire CEO of a company but people aren't spending their hard-earned money on your product How do you go about improving this situation? Do you:

A) make your product more competitively priced;
B) improve your product;
C) both A) and B);
D) cry about it on a podcast and, in the middle of a cost of living crisis, accuse anyone who doesn't spend every penny of their disposable income on the substandard, overpriced crap you serve up of being some kind of traitor who wants your brand to fail?

Really dislike the sentiment of the comments about food/drink for a number of reasons, some already covered above but mainly they just come across as being really tone deaf. He can't moan about the Council not recognising how much money we bring into the area in the same breath as whingeing about fans spending money locally on a matchday. Clearly wants it both ways. Also, the area around the ground has, in the last 10-15 years, seen an incredible improvement in the food and drink options available. If the Club haven't kept up and people are going elsewhere, maybe they should do something about it beyond guilt tripping people.

These businesses are our neighbours, we're supposed to be part of a local community, branding ourselves as a community club. This isn't acting like it.

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:30 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:20 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:46 pm

I would hardly class Ruel as a senior pro, he is fit and an ever present in the side and so far our top goal scorer and RW likes him, so little to no chance of that happening . By the way....you really have got a thing about Ruel haven't you !
Well hardly likely to be Pratley, Thompson is injured ( yet again ) so highly unlikely that he can be off loaded....a long shot...Beckles ?

Moncur, Hunt??

Real guessing game this. Another idea floated ''Thompson to retire from playing''
Well yes could be, perhaps to retire and go onto the coaching side of the game ?
Bring on Miss Marples and Hercule Poirot to investigate and report their findings within the next 48 hours !