Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:32 pm
Cool. Have a good day Max.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:32 pmI should hope so. An unarmed man was executed by the state.
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Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:36 pm
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:29 pm
Another rotten apple. 
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:48 pm
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:13 am
Just said she wasn't going to observe a 2 minute silence. A fair few others were more damning but I guess shoehorning 9/11 into the headline is standard practice for maximum outrage.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:31 am
They shoot to stop not to kill. My cousin is an Authorised Firearms Officer. The Jury found the officer charged, not guilty.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:05 pm Not sure I do agree with headshotting someone ramming a car to be honest.
Kaba could have stopped, complied and lived.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:01 am
Head shot to "stop" but not kill ? How's that work then? Was aiming for his arm at point blank range but hit him in the head? Thought there was a bit of the head that he could hit that wouldn't kill him ?Yanzi Gravy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:31 amThey shoot to stop not to kill. My cousin is an Authorised Firearms Officer. The Jury found the officer charged, not guilty.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:05 pm Not sure I do agree with headshotting someone ramming a car to be honest.
Kaba could have stopped, complied and lived.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:49 am
The shot was aimed at above the steering wheel which happened to be the head due to height/seat position.StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:01 amHead shot to "stop" but not kill ? How's that work then? Was aiming for his arm at point blank range but hit him in the head? Thought there was a bit of the head that he could hit that wouldn't kill him ?Yanzi Gravy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:31 amThey shoot to stop not to kill. My cousin is an Authorised Firearms Officer. The Jury found the officer charged, not guilty.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:05 pm Not sure I do agree with headshotting someone ramming a car to be honest.
Kaba could have stopped, complied and lived.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:52 am
What did she do to warrant the Mail going after her in the first place?Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:13 am Just said she wasn't going to observe a 2 minute silence. A fair few others were more damning but I guess shoehorning 9/11 into the headline is standard practice for maximum outrage.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:57 am
If they'd shot him in the arm him and Jezza would have complained about that too.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:09 am
They didn’t though.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:57 am If they'd shot him in the arm him and Jezza would have complained about that too.
They shot him straight in the head.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:10 am
Good, I'm glad actually.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:18 pm
So you are in favour of bringing back the death penalty?
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:25 pm
Yeah
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:38 pm
I have almost zero sympathy for Chris Kaba.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:39 pm
Yes he could have stopped but he pushed his luck. I mean he was completely hemmed in by police cars so what did he think he could achieve by smashing into them ? He was obviously not thinking straight.Yanzi Gravy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:31 amThey shoot to stop not to kill. My cousin is an Authorised Firearms Officer. The Jury found the officer charged, not guilty.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:05 pm Not sure I do agree with headshotting someone ramming a car to be honest.
Kaba could have stopped, complied and lived.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:47 pm
And a big zero for all those people out on the street protesting for him, they need to give their heads a wobble.
If the people who live in the areas of London where many crimes happen, well if they want to live in an area of low crime, then they have to play their part into bringing that about by helping the police to bring criminals to justice.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:04 pm
It's not as if the police just shot him in the head while he was stood around minding his own business.
The footage shows that he was using a 2.1 ton car as a weapon against armed police who had very good reasons to stop the vehicle and apprehend him. But rather than comply, he decided to aim his car at other vehicles and the police stood nearby. When armed police are telling you to stop and you not only refuse, but act in a way that could endanger them and the public, getting shot is a very possible consequence of your actions.
As for the headshot, the graphics and bodycam footage show that, due to the angle, once a shot was fired it was very likely going to hit him in the head. Trying to hit any other part of his body was unrealistic. Kaba made his decision, so did the armed officer, and now society will somehow have to struggle on without Kaba's valued contribution.
The footage shows that he was using a 2.1 ton car as a weapon against armed police who had very good reasons to stop the vehicle and apprehend him. But rather than comply, he decided to aim his car at other vehicles and the police stood nearby. When armed police are telling you to stop and you not only refuse, but act in a way that could endanger them and the public, getting shot is a very possible consequence of your actions.
As for the headshot, the graphics and bodycam footage show that, due to the angle, once a shot was fired it was very likely going to hit him in the head. Trying to hit any other part of his body was unrealistic. Kaba made his decision, so did the armed officer, and now society will somehow have to struggle on without Kaba's valued contribution.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:04 pm
And don't get me started on the damage he caused to parked cars nearby during his little adventure. Those poor car owners will have seen their renewal premiums increase simply due to having to make a claim. He's lucky he didn't get two bullets in the head just for that alone, if you ask me.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:51 pm
Before or after trial? Or are you not fussed either way?
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:53 pm
They shot an unarmed suspect in the head at close range. Was there really no other alternative to a street execution?Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:04 pm It's not as if the police just shot him in the head while he was stood around minding his own business.
The footage shows that he was using a 2.1 ton car as a weapon against armed police who had very good reasons to stop the vehicle and apprehend him. But rather than comply, he decided to aim his car at other vehicles and the police stood nearby. When armed police are telling you to stop and you not only refuse, but act in a way that could endanger them and the public, getting shot is a very possible consequence of your actions.
As for the headshot, the graphics and bodycam footage show that, due to the angle, once a shot was fired it was very likely going to hit him in the head. Trying to hit any other part of his body was unrealistic. Kaba made his decision, so did the armed officer, and now society will somehow have to struggle on without Kaba's valued contribution.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:06 pm
He was only unarmed because he had to quickly dispose of his usual means of killing after he shot the club goer and fellow gang member.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:10 pm
You just made that up. Didn't you?
I can see no evidence of a conviction for the alleged shooting of a club goer and fellow gang member. So I suppose he was innocent until proven guilty.
Much in the same way that the cop was guilty until being ridiculously proven innocent. We all know he did it. Presumably he's no longer on the guns crew.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:24 pm
Of course there were other options the police could have take, as could Kaba. But that doesn't mean that what did happen was totally unreasonable either.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:53 pmThey shot an unarmed suspect in the head at close range. Was there really no other alternative to a street execution?Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:04 pm It's not as if the police just shot him in the head while he was stood around minding his own business.
The footage shows that he was using a 2.1 ton car as a weapon against armed police who had very good reasons to stop the vehicle and apprehend him. But rather than comply, he decided to aim his car at other vehicles and the police stood nearby. When armed police are telling you to stop and you not only refuse, but act in a way that could endanger them and the public, getting shot is a very possible consequence of your actions.
As for the headshot, the graphics and bodycam footage show that, due to the angle, once a shot was fired it was very likely going to hit him in the head. Trying to hit any other part of his body was unrealistic. Kaba made his decision, so did the armed officer, and now society will somehow have to struggle on without Kaba's valued contribution.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:27 pm
Also, is it really accurate to describe him as unarmed? That implies he did not have a weapon in his possession. You could argue that the way he was aggressively driving the Audi meant that his car was a weapon of sorts.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:53 pmThey shot an unarmed suspect in the head at close range. Was there really no other alternative to a street execution?Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:04 pm It's not as if the police just shot him in the head while he was stood around minding his own business.
The footage shows that he was using a 2.1 ton car as a weapon against armed police who had very good reasons to stop the vehicle and apprehend him. But rather than comply, he decided to aim his car at other vehicles and the police stood nearby. When armed police are telling you to stop and you not only refuse, but act in a way that could endanger them and the public, getting shot is a very possible consequence of your actions.
As for the headshot, the graphics and bodycam footage show that, due to the angle, once a shot was fired it was very likely going to hit him in the head. Trying to hit any other part of his body was unrealistic. Kaba made his decision, so did the armed officer, and now society will somehow have to struggle on without Kaba's valued contribution.