Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:45 pm

faith1234 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:26 pm Ross would be great but he already has a company which gives advice to clubs and managers why would he come out of that to manage us

Is the advice "Don't hire me"?

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:31 pm

Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:09 pm

Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:43 pm Just remember what happened after Russell Slade had 3 points after 10 games at the start of the 11-12 season. All were baying for his blood. Hearn ignored the supporters fortunately.

Things are improving, game by game. Once we start scoring, results will change.

One other point, Nigel said that in the NFL they had worked out statistically that if a manager has a bad patch, but is allowed to continue in the position, the results over the long run are better than chopping and changing.

This.
IIRC; we only just stayed up on the last or penultimate game of that season, by beating Wycombe 2-0, with Ryan Jarvis and a worldie from a certain Moses Odubajo to announce his entrance
Within 18 months we were top of League 1

To be pedantic wasn’t the Moses goal against Rochdale in the season after that Wycombe game? From memory maybe Mcgleish got the other goal in that game?

Orient till I die M wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:08 pm We are doomed under jackett, we can’t score which means we won’t win games which means national league football.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:59 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:31 pm

Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:09 pm

This.
IIRC; we only just stayed up on the last or penultimate game of that season, by beating Wycombe 2-0, with Ryan Jarvis and a worldie from a certain Moses Odubajo to announce his entrance
Within 18 months we were top of League 1

To be pedantic wasn’t the Moses goal against Rochdale in the season after that Wycombe game? From memory maybe Mcgleish got the other goal in that game?

We lost away at Wycombe in the February (2012). 4-0 down at half time (with Rachubka letting an average effort through his hands too easily) and eventually losing 4-2. The Odubajo goal was against Rochdale in the last game of the same season when we were already safe.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:14 am Is Jacket good enough,no. A manager/coaches job is to get the best out of his players,to motivate,to know what formation to use with the players available,is he doing this,no. Was there really a lot of money available in the last window,no. If the club was going down the youth road(build for the future route) then if they were so promising then why not tie them down to longer contracts,they didn’t,why sign a youngster who was disregarded at the beginning of the season, deemed not good enough then,why now? Does Ling know how to pick a manager,no never in a million years. What to do now,get rid of Jacket he’s loosing the dressing room and doesn’t know the modern game and put Gallen in as caretaker until the end of the season and hope they can avoid the dropAt the end of the season get rid of Ling and Jacket if he hasn’t gone already.Approach either Dave Challenor or Derek Adams if they are available, to manage the club,save what little money that’s available and go out and get two of the best CM midfielders that we can afford . If they don’t do this and are lucky to avoid relegation then next season they will definitely go back down.

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:49 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:14 am Is Jacket good enough,no. A manager/coaches job is to get the best out of his players,to motivate,to know what formation to use with the players available,is he doing this,no. Was there really a lot of money available in the last window,no. If the club was going down the youth road(build for the future route) then if they were so promising then why not tie them down to longer contracts,they didn’t,why sign a youngster who was disregarded at the beginning of the season, deemed not good enough then,why now? Does Ling know how to pick a manager,no never in a million years. What to do now,get rid of Jacket he’s loosing the dressing room and doesn’t know the modern game and put Gallen in as caretaker until the end of the season and hope they can avoid the dropAt the end of the season get rid of Ling and Jacket if he hasn’t gone already.Approach either Dave Challenor or Derek Adams if they are available, to manage the club,save what little money that’s available and go out and get two of the best CM midfielders that we can afford . If they don’t do this and are lucky to avoid relegation then next season they will definitely go back down.

I assume you don’t rate Ling or Jackett

Why would Gallen a loyal assistant over more than a decade wish to stay at club that dismissed the manager, a trust work colleague and a friend - would you ? I would not be agreeable to that.

I know the situation is very unusual because one would expect other teams to make the occasional mistake in defence which would lead to orient scoring but even that has not occurred.

I really am perplexed at the situation but I guess when the club and Kenny took their wedding vowels a few months ago - no one would anticipate an early divorce and on that front I would get both parties to seek conciliation and establish what actually is going wrong - injury aside.

Much more economically viable than instigating a divorce. Particularly when the chairman has publicly stated so clearly they like Kenny as most of us do to.

Marriage is the rough and the smooth whatever has occurred.

Stowaway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:07 am All strikers miss chances, but we rely on them putting the odd one away. That’s not happening now. Drinan had perhaps two good chances yesterday, and we created little else. The whole team looks wrong, aimless and thoroughly off-sorts. Jackett doesn’t seem to be able to work out why, or how to change it. I’ve no idea why - you’d have thought a manager of his experience should be able to get this lot going. We were scoring for fun at one point, so what’s gone wrong?

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:17 am

Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:49 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:14 am Is Jacket good enough,no. A manager/coaches job is to get the best out of his players,to motivate,to know what formation to use with the players available,is he doing this,no. Was there really a lot of money available in the last window,no. If the club was going down the youth road(build for the future route) then if they were so promising then why not tie them down to longer contracts,they didn’t,why sign a youngster who was disregarded at the beginning of the season, deemed not good enough then,why now? Does Ling know how to pick a manager,no never in a million years. What to do now,get rid of Jacket he’s loosing the dressing room and doesn’t know the modern game and put Gallen in as caretaker until the end of the season and hope they can avoid the dropAt the end of the season get rid of Ling and Jacket if he hasn’t gone already.Approach either Dave Challenor or Derek Adams if they are available, to manage the club,save what little money that’s available and go out and get two of the best CM midfielders that we can afford . If they don’t do this and are lucky to avoid relegation then next season they will definitely go back down.

I assume you don’t rate Ling or Jackett

Why would Gallen a loyal assistant over more than a decade wish to stay at club that dismissed the manager, a trust work colleague and a friend - would you ? I would not be agreeable to that.

I know the situation is very unusual because one would expect other teams to make the occasional mistake in defence which would lead to orient scoring but even that has not occurred.

I really am perplexed at the situation but I guess when the club and Kenny took their wedding vowels a few months ago - no one would anticipate an early divorce and on that front I would get both parties to seek conciliation and establish what actually is going wrong - injury aside.

Much more economically viable than instigating a divorce. Particularly when the chairman has publicly stated so clearly they like Kenny as most of us do to.

Marriage is the rough and the smooth whatever has occurred.

1)Gallen would take up the challenge,why,because it’s a chance to manage a league club(hopefully )and he’s a younger man with fresh ideas of his own.2) Jacket is coming to the end of his career in football management and after this I will be surprised if anyone is fool enough to employ him? 3)At this point in the season I don’t think there will be many takers that are credible for the job,plus Gallen is already on the payroll so the club wouldn’t have another salary to pay out.4) he knows (hopefully) how to work with Ling.

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:24 am As someone else alluded to, I would love to see how a poll would pan out on Ling..