Re: Bonne to Charlton
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:12 am
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PoundhillO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:13 amI haven't renewed mine for many reasons, including my lack of faith in the club keeping our prize assets and the lack of quality signings so far.Byways1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:07 amHave you sent yours back yet?
We have always sold our best players for less than what they are worth over the years,
this is no different.
The fact is we don’t have the fan base to compete with the likes of Charlton etc.
Go back to the 1970s and see the problems Brian Winston had in trying to get more than 5000 home fans to turn up. And that was in the Championship.
You don't expand your fan base and attract new fans by selling off your best players and failing to bring in quality additions to the squad it shows a total lack of ambition and it sticks two fingers up to the fans .
Controversial but I agree. I believe he will struggle at that level. But good luck to the lad and thanks for the goals over two very good seasons.
As far as the release clause goes, what if his agents said "Sorry, if there's no £200k release clause then we're off for nothing this summer"? Better to guarantee we kept him for this season and got out of the division (on that note the contract may have had a non promotion release clause of less than £200k).eagwgw wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:21 am Can't see how the club can be described as winning with that kind of fee.... obviously we make a profit on him, but I think we've undersold themselves given the type of clubs linked to him. Even when we were in League One I do not think clubs of that size were linked with our players.
Looking back at other similar transfers of top NL goalscorers, Millwall paid £250k for Lee Gregory, even though Halifax were part-time and would had a harder time fending off clubs, and that was 2014 as well.
I totally understand that a release clause would have been insisted on as part of extending the deal, but Bonne and his representatives must have been laughing inside when it was set at £200k, a bit like that scene in Austin Powers where Slade asks for a million dollars. Can only hope the final deal is much more than this, or we get some players as well in return.
But the key thing is that we cannot reject a £200k bid. So other teams would just match that offer, not exceed it when they have no need to.Redcard wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:27 am If bonnes agent insisted on a £200,000 release clause then we were pretty much left with little choice, however that figure is merely the amount that the player could decide to leave and if several clubs were bidding for him it would not necessarily be the final fee.
Possible, but I don't think it's that binary (neither do you, I am guessing).Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:40 am
As far as the release clause goes, what if his agents said "Sorry, if there's no £200k release clause then we're off for nothing this summer"? Better to guarantee we kept him for this season and got out of the division (on that note the contract may have had a non promotion release clause of less than £200k).
Not sure what player you where watching goal ratio 1 in every 2 games quite a few assists not bad at defending corners etc and runs all game don’t know what else you expect from a lower league playerRedcard wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:15 am A few points, As far as I recall we paid about £100,000 for Bonne when we signed him, and as it seems he had a £200,000 release clause there is little more we could do to stop him.
As for finding a replacement , he despite all his endeavors was not the greatest finishers. Take way his penalty conversions and his strike ratio per chances was not that great. He wasn’t one to score from outside the box and wasn’t great at holding up the ball, or creating a chance out of nothing. I will be much more upset if Josh Koroma goes because he has all the attributes Bonne doesn’t.
I agree, good player and he’s certainly one of the first names down on the team sheet.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:52 amNot sure what player you where watching goal ratio 1 in every 2 games quite a few assists not bad at defending corners etc and runs all game don’t know what else you expect from a lower league playerRedcard wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:15 am A few points, As far as I recall we paid about £100,000 for Bonne when we signed him, and as it seems he had a £200,000 release clause there is little more we could do to stop him.
As for finding a replacement , he despite all his endeavors was not the greatest finishers. Take way his penalty conversions and his strike ratio per chances was not that great. He wasn’t one to score from outside the box and wasn’t great at holding up the ball, or creating a chance out of nothing. I will be much more upset if Josh Koroma goes because he has all the attributes Bonne doesn’t.
If he leaves he can hold us head up high he’s done more than a decent job for Orient while he’s been here
I think you will find that Barry Hearn is a top businessman.Thor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:37 am If this reported clause is true, when will we as a club stop selling our best players for peanuts. I thought with two seasoned and top business people involved those days were gone, maybe I was being naive in that assertion.
Again if it’s true, it’s time they wised up and stop our club being sold short and cheaply.
That's not how release fees work.Redcard wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:27 am If bonnes agent insisted on a £200,000 release clause then we were pretty much left with little choice, however that figure is merely the amount that the player could decide to leave and if several clubs were bidding for him it would not necessarily be the final fee.
But definitely not irreplaceable.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:52 amNot sure what player you where watching goal ratio 1 in every 2 games quite a few assists not bad at defending corners etc and runs all game don’t know what else you expect from a lower league playerRedcard wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:15 am A few points, As far as I recall we paid about £100,000 for Bonne when we signed him, and as it seems he had a £200,000 release clause there is little more we could do to stop him.
As for finding a replacement , he despite all his endeavors was not the greatest finishers. Take way his penalty conversions and his strike ratio per chances was not that great. He wasn’t one to score from outside the box and wasn’t great at holding up the ball, or creating a chance out of nothing. I will be much more upset if Josh Koroma goes because he has all the attributes Bonne doesn’t.
If he leaves he can hold us head up high he’s done more than a decent job for Orient while he’s been here
Yep. It won't just be Bonne that has a release clause in his contract either.Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:16 pm Wish Bonne the best of luck. We were never going to keep all of our best players this summer and they have done us proud this season so will go with our total respect.
The message he released re Justin seemed to hint that he was off to pastures new. I hope he does brilliantly for them.
How we replace them is key, but 100k gets us a brilliant striker at this level if we invest wisely, and still leaves us with cash to spare from this deal.
It was. Ling or Teague have mentioned it in a previous interview, albeit without specifying how much the sell on percentage was.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:15 pmAccording to the LOFC article we signed him for nothing upon expiration of his contract. So looks like the sell on was in lieu of us paying a fee.