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DuvB wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:16 am

BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:49 pm

Redcard wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:44 pm Corbyn of course, a person who supported the I.r.a, supports the regime in Venezuela, regards terrorist groups hezbullah and hammas as his friends, laid a reef at the graveside of the mastermind of the massacre of Israeli athletes at the Munich olympics , saw no problem in attending a banquet and meeting the leader of China after they had slaughtered student protestors, but refused to do the same for the leader of our greatest ally. Boasting to his adoring crowd in a ranting speech which bore a similarity to hitler that he snubbed trump .
Hold on, it has emerged that he DID beg a meeting with trump but refused.
Corbyn is a lying vile hypocrite .

And even if all that were true - and it isn't - he's still got more integrity than the whole of the Tory front bench!

LOL

Integrity : the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles that you refuse to change

Now whilst I get that many don't like Corbyn's views on some topics, I still state that he has more integrity than the Tory shower of liars and limp-wristed in-breds that run the government. Corbyn's beliefs will probably keep him out of power but it's laudable that he has principles that he lives by as opposed to the complete moral vacuum which is the Tories.

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:37 am Diane Abbott is loathed because she has the audacity to be a working class black woman who has worked her way to the top without getting Stockholm syndrome. Right wingers can't stand her for that reason. As for her being stupid, I mean jesus... She got into Oxford and was a standout student despite the obvious disadvantages she had.

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:37 am Diane Abbott is loathed because she has the audacity to be a working class black woman who has worked her way to the top without getting Stockholm syndrome. Right wingers can't stand her for that reason. As for her being stupid, I mean jesus... She got into Oxford and was a standout student despite the obvious disadvantages she had.

Are you sure? Wiki says she got a 2:2 in History and not from Oxford.

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:37 am Diane Abbott is loathed because she has the audacity to be a working class black woman who has worked her way to the top without getting Stockholm syndrome. Right wingers can't stand her for that reason. As for her being stupid, I mean jesus... She got into Oxford and was a standout student despite the obvious disadvantages she had.

So why does she not grasp or appear to grasp any subject she speaks about?

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:41 am

DuvB wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:16 am

BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:49 pm

And even if all that were true - and it isn't - he's still got more integrity than the whole of the Tory front bench!

LOL

Integrity : the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles that you refuse to change

Now whilst I get that many don't like Corbyn's views on some topics, I still state that he has more integrity than the Tory shower of liars and limp-wristed in-breds that run the government. Corbyn's beliefs will probably keep him out of power but it's laudable that he has principles that he lives by as opposed to the complete moral vacuum which is the Tories.

Oh yeah the man won't sit down or argue his points or policies or politics with the President of the USA a person who was democratically elected and he also refuses to attend a state dinner.

Yet when the Xi Jinping of China was here he was all over him like a rash, yet this is a man who has never won an election, has a dubious human rights record, no women in his cabnet etc. I could go on.

Shear hypocrisy on Corbyns part I'm afraid. He doesn't deserve to be the head of the labour party he's a disgrace to the role.

The Chinese even put muslims in camps.

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:34 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:41 am

DuvB wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:16 am

LOL

Integrity : the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles that you refuse to change

Now whilst I get that many don't like Corbyn's views on some topics, I still state that he has more integrity than the Tory shower of liars and limp-wristed in-breds that run the government. Corbyn's beliefs will probably keep him out of power but it's laudable that he has principles that he lives by as opposed to the complete moral vacuum which is the Tories.

Oh yeah the man won't sit down or argue his points or policies or politics with the President of the USA a person who was democratically elected and he also refuses to attend a state dinner.

Yet when the Xi Jinping of China was here he was all over him like a rash, yet this is a man who has never won an election, has a dubious human rights record, no women in his cabnet etc. I could go on.

Shear hypocrisy on Corbyns part I'm afraid. He doesn't deserve to be the head of the labour party he's a disgrace to the role.

And your point is?

You say Corbyn won't argue his points with Trump, but you don't know that. We don't know who refused to meet who and even if it was Corbyn who refused to meet Trump I wouldn't blame him in the slightest. Trump is an odious lying turd after all.

Corbyn refuses to attend a State dinner to honour Trump - well as he is so opposed to Trump that seems the principled decision to me. One might almost say that he showed integrity there!

Corbyn is far from the only Western politician to meet with the Chinese. I actually agree with you in as much as I also find the Chinese regime repugnant but unfortunately it's impossible to ignore China.

Whether he should lead the Labour Party is the only real question. I think Corbyn is a principled politician, a bit of a throwback to earlier times and probably unelectable to the role of PM. But is he the demon some make out, of course not.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:24 pm

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:37 am Diane Abbott is loathed because she has the audacity to be a working class black woman who has worked her way to the top without getting Stockholm syndrome. Right wingers can't stand her for that reason. As for her being stupid, I mean jesus... She got into Oxford and was a standout student despite the obvious disadvantages she had.

Are you sure? Wiki says she got a 2:2 in History and not from Oxford.

I'm real surprised, I was under the impression she couldn't add up.

Abbott is still pretty good in writing, but seems to have lost her edge when it comes to verbal debate these days. It doesn’t help that she also suffers from the politician’s common affliction of pontificating on subject areas where here grasp of detail is not great - but I’d wish more MPs would be brave enough to simply say “I don’t know” sometimes, rather than blunder on and bullshit her way through. But nearly all of them do it, yet she gets flak for it when caught out more than most.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:24 pm

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:37 am Diane Abbott is loathed because she has the audacity to be a working class black woman who has worked her way to the top without getting Stockholm syndrome. Right wingers can't stand her for that reason. As for her being stupid, I mean jesus... She got into Oxford and was a standout student despite the obvious disadvantages she had.

Are you sure? Wiki says she got a 2:2 in History and not from Oxford.

Apologies, it was Cambridge. Cambridge-Oxford, Oxford-Cambridge...its all the same to me. Her 2:2 is strange as I've heard her tutor, Simon Schama, talk about how bright she was.

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:28 pm

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:37 am Diane Abbott is loathed because she has the audacity to be a working class black woman who has worked her way to the top without getting Stockholm syndrome. Right wingers can't stand her for that reason. As for her being stupid, I mean jesus... She got into Oxford and was a standout student despite the obvious disadvantages she had.

So why does she not grasp or appear to grasp any subject she speaks about?

Maths being one of them.

The only issue I have with Abbot is the private school thing and her defence that it was because she is a West Indian mother.

Lots of angry boarders getting wound up about politics

You can shout scream etc all you want but it won’t change anything

Politics bolitics

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:43 pm The only issue I have with Abbot is the private school thing and her defence that it was because she is a West Indian mother.

It’s the classic don’t do what I do just do what I say.

Hypocrisy once more.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:42 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:48 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:37 pm So he snubbed the dinner then expected Trump to meet with him?

Are you thick?

Yes. Answer the question.

As you admit to being thick, wasting keyboard energy on you is a pointless exercise.

4 notifications, all from you. And I'm the one obsessed?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:15 pm 4 notifications, all from you. And I'm the one obsessed?

Recognising you have a problem is the first step towards recovery. I am glad you acknowledge your obsessive side.

dear OH dear what ever happened to love thy neighbour.

greyhound wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:55 pm dear OH dear what ever happened to love thy neighbour.

Banned for being racist.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:50 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:15 pm 4 notifications, all from you. And I'm the one obsessed?

Recognising you have a problem is the first step towards recovery. I am glad you acknowledge your obsessive side.

Sorry can't read your post as I've foed you.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:00 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:50 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:15 pm 4 notifications, all from you. And I'm the one obsessed?

Recognising you have a problem is the first step towards recovery. I am glad you acknowledge your obsessive side.

Sorry can't read your post as I've foed you.

Best news I have heard all day. Pity it isn’t true.

I looked on booking.com there is a double room going at the lion and key if you two want to kiss and make up

Breakfast not included sorry!!!

Ornchurch, you have stood the truth on its head when you say Abbott is loathed because she is working class , black and worked her way to the top. The fact that she is working class and black is the only reason she is where she is, oh and the fact she was Corbyns shag bag.

Redcard wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:54 pm Ornchurch, the only reason she is where she is, is cos of the fact she was Corbyns shag bag.

Here you go red card, I’ve amended it down to the reality for you, hope this helps.

Redcard wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:54 pm The fact that she is working class and black is the only reason she is where she is

I’m not sure you fully understand the concept of privilege, fella.